remember marth cant be waveshined by marth over here =) shine to uppsmash / grab doesnt work, i think it makes up for it =)I called the great because they are great & overall better than ours. I said Europe has alot of peaches compared to like 3 over here LOL! I stated that the end result of PAL is destined to be puff followed by peach regardless of Armada or Mango's existence. Trust me American Peach's know how to **** up Falcons even the best of them lol. Of course without Mute City there could be problems. I don't want to play puff or Peach. PAL marth isn't worth playing, Sheik is dull for me to play NTSC or PAL, Fox is to fast for my fingers to play him well & his power is less as well as his Recovery. So not worth it. Falco is my last option if PAL became Standard but I would get tired of Spawning at kill %. So without If PAL is standard then I'd probably not play Melee.. Nothing personal but I need my NTSC Marth.
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Ntsc vs pal
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MikeHaggarTHAKJB
Smash Master
we're just messing around and this point dude
...
but americans still have small *****es
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I'm gay for America.
yo mang, i ain't gonna be a **** about your english. lol. but i agree i think that does impact that matchup a ton. additionally, usmash and uair being weaker makes the match-up even further in marth's favor
MikeHaggarTHAKJB
Smash Master
fox's uair is not weaker in pal only the usmash and dsmash
Remember, Marth can't be waveshined by Fox over here in PAL. Shine to upsmash / grab doesn't work, I think it makes up for it.
whats wrong with this sentence? >.<
Also, if you think Fox's upair is weaker you shouldn't even be in this discussion.. sigh
unknown522
Some guy
PAL is pretty much more balanced. But a good jiggs would destroy the cast probably.
DondonSF
Smash Journeyman
you put marth can't waveshine marth at first
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silence fool... i got carried away with my u's
How is that error related to english knowledge
DondonSF
Smash Journeyman
im just pointin it out what I read,im not exactly sure what he would've meant besides that.
Vyzor
Smash Journeyman
I thought tournament legal was not playing on hacked Wii's 0_o Who care's if it's more balanced. Do they really expect everyone to hack their Wii and burn a copy of PAL melee just so they can play normally? Seriously, that's just dumb. EVERYONE would have to, and some people don't want to hack their Wii's in the first place. NTSC players would have to change EVERYTHING. It would be worse for us to switch. This predicament is just ridiculous to me :\
JCaesar
Smash Hero
Stop complaining. All Marth loses is one move and drops 2 units in weight (which makes him fall from Fox's Shine). Stop conplaining like the world is falling apart.I don't want to play puff or Peach. PAL marth isn't worth playing, Sheik is dull for me to play NTSC or PAL, Fox is to fast for my fingers to play him well & his power is less as well as his Recovery. So not worth it. Falco is my last option if PAL became Standard but I would get tired of Spawning at kill %. So without If PAL is standard then I'd probably not play Melee.
Stop being a gay American complainer. Grow up! Accept that everything can't be perfect.
-UsurperKingZant (I'm on a friends account)
Archangel
Smash Hero
NOBODY is serious here lol. Were just bull****ting until this gets closed.
btw europeans forget how many black smashers America has lol. Bigger *****? LOL!!! overall probably we got many asians also. lmao! This thread is so dumb.....
btw europeans forget how many black smashers America has lol. Bigger *****? LOL!!! overall probably we got many asians also. lmao! This thread is so dumb.....
JCaesar
Smash Hero
Oh, wait, nevermind, I forgot, You make me think of this one terrible guy.
-UsurperKingZant
-UsurperKingZant
Nø Ca$h
Smash Champion
1.0 ftw
pal is technically better, but since i was raised on ntsc, i wouldnt wanna change
pal is technically better, but since i was raised on ntsc, i wouldnt wanna change
JCaesar
Smash Hero
jugfingers
Smash Champion
does anyone have a complete/accurate list of changes?
unknown522
Some guy
marth gets shine spiked easily.....
does anyone care?
neither one is better, pal might be more "balanced," but it makes it even less likely that anyone is ever gonna beat mango.
So in order to play PAL, let's all go buy wii's and illegal burn copies of PAL then play them in tournaments. For no reason other than some people aren't good enough so instead of practicing their main, they cry about the game not being balanced. PAL's not either. Just space better noob.
Plus i swear to god, hearing puff's pound makes me want to kill something.
Also no one will ever beat mango if PAL is made standard. Now fox dies even earlier!!
neither one is better, pal might be more "balanced," but it makes it even less likely that anyone is ever gonna beat mango.
So in order to play PAL, let's all go buy wii's and illegal burn copies of PAL then play them in tournaments. For no reason other than some people aren't good enough so instead of practicing their main, they cry about the game not being balanced. PAL's not either. Just space better noob.
Plus i swear to god, hearing puff's pound makes me want to kill something.
Also no one will ever beat mango if PAL is made standard. Now fox dies even earlier!!
Archangel
Smash Hero
Grim Tuesday
Smash Legend
PAL > NTSC
lololololol
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lololololol
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Vyzor
Smash Journeyman
not making the whole north american community change to PAL > using illegal copies of PAL melee on hacked wii's
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weslo
Smash Apprentice
Pal's gay
euros gay
luigi *****
but he isn't my main
AMERICA FVCK YEAHHHHHHHH
euros gay
luigi *****
but he isn't my main
AMERICA FVCK YEAHHHHHHHH
MarioMariox2
Smash Ace
PAL SSBM for top tiers is like Brawl 0.5 :O
But in all seriousness, I'm down with playing SSBM v1.0. Link get his superjump back :D
But in all seriousness, I'm down with playing SSBM v1.0. Link get his superjump back :D
Grim Tuesday
Smash Legend
I don't recall ever saying that every single american should change to PAL illegally.
Allow me to restate my opinion.
PAL > NTSC
lololololol
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CloneHat
Smash Champion
PAL Puff>NTSC Puff = More puff in PAL
More PAL Puff = more SFX
Puff's SFX in PAL will permanently damage your brain. NTSC>PAL.
More PAL Puff = more SFX
Puff's SFX in PAL will permanently damage your brain. NTSC>PAL.
Wow I've only seen that image 567,893,008,137 times before, you using it in this situation where it wasn't even relevant was kind of dumb as hell.
Ok. Her grabbing the ledge sound. Whoops I made a small mistake, must be massive facepalm time.
stelzig
Smash Lord
PAL is more balanced, but I actually find NTSC more fun to play lol. Well except the stupid sheik dthrow.
Same here haha, tho I love the dthrow, perhaps cuz im Sheik
Oh.... yeah. Well there's one version where puff sounds terrible.
Um, Gold is like where something actually interesting happens. If this is gold, your life sucks and I feel sorry for you.
There are 3 sound settings: english, french, germany. Just like you have english and japanese.
Keep going with your attacks, you just embarass yourself :embarrass
CloneHat
Smash Champion
Wait, you can get Falcon Punch in French?
L__
Smash Master
coup de poing Falcon
google translate ftl
google translate ftl
I forgot, there's spanish and italian too.
Roughly changes (there's probably a lot more but these are the one I know):
German:
- Mewtu instead of Mewtwo.
- Pummeluff instead of Jigglypuff
- New voice for Jigglypuff
- Some stages in German, some not translated
- Junger Link instead of Young Link
- Description in main menu in German
French:
- All Pokemon names in big letters (down in the player screens after you picked the character) <-- I dont get why at this one
- Rondoudou instead of Jigglypuff
- New voice for Jigglypuff
- Link Enfant instead of Young Link
- Some stages in French, some not translated
- Description in main menu in French
Italian:
- Description in main menu in Italian
- Some stages in Italian, some not translated
Spanish:
- Description in main menu in Spanish
- Some stages in Spanish, some not translated
Roughly changes (there's probably a lot more but these are the one I know):
German:
- Mewtu instead of Mewtwo.
- Pummeluff instead of Jigglypuff
- New voice for Jigglypuff
- Some stages in German, some not translated
- Junger Link instead of Young Link
- Description in main menu in German
French:
- All Pokemon names in big letters (down in the player screens after you picked the character) <-- I dont get why at this one
- Rondoudou instead of Jigglypuff
- New voice for Jigglypuff
- Link Enfant instead of Young Link
- Some stages in French, some not translated
- Description in main menu in French
Italian:
- Description in main menu in Italian
- Some stages in Italian, some not translated
Spanish:
- Description in main menu in Spanish
- Some stages in Spanish, some not translated
CloneHat
Smash Champion
Punch du Faucon!
Now I want to hear it.
Now I want to hear it.
MarioMariox2
Smash Ace
Pummeluf? Just cause of Pound lol.
Aussierob123
Smash Champion
So many comments as if puff is ****** the PAL scene.
Despite the changes the main choice of characters are pretty much the same... I don't know why people are all like "lololol europe = all peach and puff cuz the other chars are nerfed".
Marth got like 1 nerf, falco is barely nerfed at all, fox got a couple of strength nerfs and sheik got a few more nerfs too, but all of these characters are still extremely good and are the more dominant / often used characters in the game.
Every tournament I go to is like Fox falco marth fox fox. Occasionally I'll have to play a sheik or peach.
Despite the changes the main choice of characters are pretty much the same... I don't know why people are all like "lololol europe = all peach and puff cuz the other chars are nerfed".
Marth got like 1 nerf, falco is barely nerfed at all, fox got a couple of strength nerfs and sheik got a few more nerfs too, but all of these characters are still extremely good and are the more dominant / often used characters in the game.
Every tournament I go to is like Fox falco marth fox fox. Occasionally I'll have to play a sheik or peach.