Nintendo 3DS

[finalark]

You might find this interesting:

http://ds.ign.com/articles/110/1102382p1.html

 

[SuperBowser]

I don't agree with the article. I think Nintendo just didn't bother showing their casual games this E3.

I also think they fully intend to pursue the casual market with the 3DS as much as they have with the DS. But first, they want the PSP removed from the competition and they aren't going to play nice. They want 3rd party supporters to consider Nintendo and nobody else when they make a title in the handheld market. Having the strongest hardware and picking up all the ''core'' gamers at launch is the best way to acheive that.

This is also why I think the 3DS will only launch if Nintendo is absolutely confident in its launch lineup. They want to hit the ground running (unlike DS).

 

[Charon the Ferryman Blaster]

I honestly feel that the 3DS's main goal is to knock the PSP right out of the market. And I really hope it does that - despite my love of competition, the PSP is really a boring system in my opinion, and most of the attraction to it was really its graphical abilities, and not much else. I hope that with this new system that titles that are usually restricted to the PSP may finally be able to come to the 3DS's library (which is impressive already).

I'm sick and tired of seeing a billion "Petz" or "My Personal [...] Trainer" titles when I walk into Gamestop or Best Buy. Admittedly there are some really great titles for the DS, but they're flooded with that crap that most casual gamers never actually get to play them. Those "cookie cutter" titles will still exist with the onset of the 3DS, but perhaps the handheld's library will have more decent titles to balance it out.

 

[BlackLightning90]

You know...
Recently Nintendo has been making N64 ports to 3DS, such as Ocarina of Time or Star Fox.
I wonder how Super Smash Bros. 3DS will look like...

 

[Charon the Ferryman Blaster]

A SSB for the 3DS? I doubt I would buy it if they made it - part of what makes the games difficult for me are the size of the models when the stage zooms out - I can't even imagine how difficult that'd be for me with a screen the size of that, even though it's larger than the DSi's screen (my current DS) and it's better graphical capabilities.

 

[Luigitoilet]

A SSB for the 3DS? I doubt I would buy it if they made it - part of what makes the games difficult for me are the size of the models when the stage zooms out - I can't even imagine how difficult that'd be for me with a screen the size of that, even though it's larger than the DSi's screen (my current DS) and it's better graphical capabilities.

They could compensate for this by making small and compact stages.

 

[UberMario]

They could compensate for this by making small and compact stages.

Or taking advantage of the wide screen and put all the stats on the bottom screen. With a widescreen I don't see why it would have to pan out badly on any stage but Sector Z and Yoshi's Island.

 

[Ryu Shimazu]

I have to agree, PSP is boring. Sad thing is, they have some great games.

FFTactics, Dissidia, Brotherhood of the Blade, Monster Hunter, etc etc.. great games. But UMDS + the hardware = fail.

 

[Mic_128]

They could compensate for this by making small and compact stages.

Or simply have the camera follow you around instead of showing the whole stage (IE, Jump Super/Ultimate Stars)

 

[sakuraZaKi]

What I want to know is if there will be anything about customizable dashboards/user interface (i.e. backgrounds, etc.). I don't have the DSi, but the DS/Lite's just had color changes and names, among other things.

Sony and MS have had it for a while. It's not really important, but I like to personalize my belongings whenever possible.

 

[Charon the Ferryman Blaster]

What I want to know is if there will be anything about customizable dashboards/user interface (i.e. backgrounds, etc.). I don't have the DSi, but the DS/Lite's just had color changes and names, among other things.

Sony and MS have had it for a while. It's not really important, but I like to personalize my belongings whenever possible.

I hope that with the 3DS it will be possible to change your backgrounds and icons with images on an SD card. Man, I'd spend hours making personalized desktops and icons for the system... but I also hate the fact that the DSi can only read files that were actually made by the system - I hope they fix that. I doubt they "can't figure it out" mainly because they managed to do it with DSi Sound...

 

[Ryu Shimazu]

DSi is lulz to begin with.'

It has "proto-type of 3DS" and "CASH filler for 3DS" written all over it.

 

[Fuelbi]

I have to agree, PSP is boring. Sad thing is, they have some great games.

FFTactics, Dissidia, Brotherhood of the Blade, Monster Hunter, etc etc.. great games. But UMDS + the hardware = fail.

Plus the fact that the poor thing wanted to be an MP3 player XD. It's not even convenient to have in your pocket or anything

 

[Chis]

http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=128929

 

[Fuelbi]

http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=128929

These guys have bashed Nintendo a million times before. I think they deserve to gloat a little don't you?

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Is the 3DS the "Gameboy color" of this generation or a whole new generation being born?

 

[Fuelbi]

I think it could be the GBC, except instead of adding color, we're adding 3D

Imagine if the 3DS fails as much as the Virtual Boy

 

[Mic_128]

Is the 3DS the "Gameboy color" of this generation or a whole new generation being born?

The 3DS is to the DS what the DS was to the GBA. It's the next generation.

 

[Darkslash]

Imagine if the 3DS fails as much as the Virtual Boy

Except you can turn off the 3D with that slider. I'm not sure if I can consider 3D to be a Gimmick on the 3DS because I know some one is going to find a good use for it gameplay wise. But because you can turn it off, it has to solely rely on a strong library, and seeing how strong the DS library was, and the launch 3DS titles, I'm sure the 3DS won't flop.

 

[UberMario]

The 3DS is to the DS what the DS was to the GBA. It's the next generation.

Exactly.

The difference between the Game Boy and Game Boy Color was pretty minimal, they made the screen polychromatic and made the games able to recognize color. They both were still the handheld equivalent of an NES, and other than visuals had virtually the same capabilties.

The 3DS is totally different from the DS. There's a widescreen on the top (rather than the two 4:3 screens of the DS), the resoultion is 50% higher, the game system has a control stick and three new buttons, a motion-sensor, a gyro-sensor, and possibly even rumble (POSSIBLY, not officially, but since several DS games had rumble using a peripheral that is incompatible with the 3DS it has the potential). ALSO the game system has much higer processing abilities and 3D effects. The only two factors linking them together are a similar button configuration (for DS compatibility) and two screens with one being a touch screen.

The DS is to the N64 as the 3DS is to the WII. (It's even better graphically than a Gamecube, and is a clear improvement in visuals from the DS, so no it isn't an equivalent of the GBC, it's a whole new generation.)

 

[Fuelbi]

The DS is to the N64 as the 3DS is to the WII. (It's even better graphically than a Gamecube, and is a clear improvement in visuals from the DS, so no it isn't an equivalent of the GBC, it's a whole new generation.)

Looks more like a GBC to me.

Also, if the 3DS is to the Wii, then make the DS to a GBC at least. Why? Take Super Mario 64 DS. It looks NOTHING like the N64 version (I'm talking in graphical terms). Mario's nose now looks perfectly round in the DS version as opposed to him having a weird nose shape in 64, or no longer does Mario look so stubby as opposed to his medium figure in the DS. Or Bowser. The way he used to look was so... weird. Now Bowser looks like he normally looks. If the DS had the graphical power of the N64, most of what we would have in SM64DS would look the same. It would at least have to have GBC graphics to make it look that good, or something in between

 

[UberMario]

I'm sorry, but that doesn't make sense, the GBC didn't have 3D graphics capabilities anywhere near N64 power (not even Star Fox SNES caliber graphics). The DS has the capibilities of the N64 and more. And you can tell the graphical power of a game system with polygons by the amount of polygons in the model, the more "pointy" a character looks the less polys are in the character and thus the worse the system's capibilities presumably are. (Less polygons means more frames per second, so the more fps a system can handle the better the graphics can be without slowing gameplay) The DS could handle slightly more than the N64 so they improved the graphics for SM64 when they "ported" it. The 3DS is on par with the Wii when it comes to processing. Compare the following two pictures (also notice one screen is bigger than the other, and both of them are larger than the DS' screens:

Compare Mario Kart DS with Mario Kart 3DS:

And Ocarina of Time (N64) with Ocarina of Time (3DS):

Does this look like just a simple 3D addon? No, it's a completely new system with far better graphics.

 

[sakuraZaKi]

Did you mean Gamecube?

 

[UberMario]

Did you mean Gamecube?

Who, me or him?

 

[Moogi]

The 3DS is my love. <3 Never have I been so excited for a handheld console, especially when they could just rerelease GC games (heck, and Wii games) on it and still make it a handheld console.

But first I have to bash my friends for hating on it and acting like it's the next iPad. ._.

 

[WiyamMang]

Well, feel free to correct me at any point. I'm not so caught up on the 3DS info, not out of time constraints or lack of sources of information, but out of apathy.

I purchased the DSi (a little over a year ago?) when it came out. When I heard the DSi XL was being released, I scoffed. Sure, a larger DSi. No problem.

Now this. How'd did my DSi get rendered to a status of "old model" so quickly? So I facepalm and walk away.

Anyhoo. It seems 3D is all the rave nowadays. I'm quite nonchalant about the whole matter but if the games are good and there's plenty of interaction between the 3D such that it doesn't become too gimmicky, I'm all for it.

Now, how would Sony counter this measure? I wonder.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Well, feel free to correct me at any point. I'm not so caught up on the 3DS info, not out of time constraints or lack of sources of information, but out of apathy.

I purchased the DSi (a little over a year ago?) when it came out. When I heard the DSi XL was being released, I scoffed. Sure, a larger DSi. No problem.

Now this. How'd did my DSi get rendered to a status of "old model" so quickly? So I facepalm and walk away.

Anyhoo. It seems 3D is all the rave nowadays. I'm quite nonchalant about the whole matter but if the games are good and there's plenty of interaction between the 3D such that it doesn't become too gimmicky, I'm all for it.

Now, how would Sony counter this measure? I wonder.

This is why I didn't get a DSi

In fact, I didn't the information about the DSiXL come out around the time the DSi came out?

Either way, I just stuck with a DS Lite and didn't feel the need to get another one

 

[Ryu Shimazu]

DSlite = the best DS ever.

DSi = Cash filler.

 

[F8AL]

DSlite = the best DS ever.

DSi = Cash filler.

I agree. I just felt that the DSL had more new features than the DSi/DSiXL had over the DSL.

 

[Minato]

I agree. I just felt that the DSL had more new features than the DSi/DSiXL had over the DSL.

DSi wouldn't have been as bad if they still had GBA compatibility.
It's too bad that they didn't keep it.

I kind of wish I didn't buy a DSi so I could've used the money towards a 3DS.
At least I have a slightly bigger and a brighter screen than my DSLite. That's the only bright side, I guess.

Other than that, it was a waste of money.

 

[Fuelbi]

DSi wouldn't have been as bad if they still had GBA compatibility.

Nintendo has said that they didn't put GBA compatibility because that way the DS Lite and the DS Phat wouldn't go down in sales

Anyways, I didn't get the DSi for the fact that my pokemon games would be more useless without the GBA slot :/

 

[Ryu Shimazu]

DSi wouldn't have been as bad if they still had GBA compatibility.
It's too bad that they didn't keep it.

I kind of wish I didn't buy a DSi so I could've used the money towards a 3DS.
At least I have a slightly bigger and a brighter screen than my DSLite. That's the only bright side, I guess.

Other than that, it was a waste of money.

Nice Pun =P

Yeah, I almost bought a DSi. But 3DS is proof it was a proto-type of sorts, testing for cameras and what not.

I love my DSlite. It was the best DS they ever made<3

 

[Minato]

Nice Pun =P

LOL That was really unintentional.

But yeah, DSL was my favorite DS.

 

[finalark]

DSlite = the best DS ever.

DSi = Cash filler.

Yeah, pretty much. When the DSi came out I thought to myself, "okay, the DS have been out for five years now and I'm still playing the GBASP. I'll just go out and buy this new model."

No GBA support, a bunch of useless features and both of the shoulder buttons stop working from regular use less than a year after I bought it. That's the last thing I ever buy anything without doing any research.

 

[F8AL]

The battery life in the DSL is better than the one in the DSi too.

 

[M.K]

I've got a DSiXL and I totally don't regret it at all.
Except for the fact that I can't really take it out in public too easily because, it truly is, gargantuan.
However, the very fact that the screens are GIGANTIC makes up for that. The games look AMAZING.

 

[Ryu Shimazu]

I've got a DSiXL and I totally don't regret it at all.
Except for the fact that I can't really take it out in public too easily because, it truly is, gargantuan.
However, the very fact that the screens are GIGANTIC makes up for that. The games look AMAZING.

Thing is, DSlite was about 120 dollars. To someone who doesn't have a lot of money, spending 120+ more on a system that doesn't have a lot of new features to make up for it, and a shorter battery life....eh?

Theres thrifty shopping (my life story) and then there's just buying stuff. I wish I could do the second one, lol.

 

[Deleted member]

Any news on Super Street Fighter IV 3D?

The TV is over $2000, each pair of glasses are $150, and then you need some $50 attachment for each pair of glasses.

This 3DS is probably going to be over $400 w/ all this bull**** that only rich people can pay for.

And you think that $2200 without taxes is not only for the riches?

 

[UberMario]

Why would it be over $400 when the Wii was barely under half of that?

Nintendo thrives because they keep their prices lower than their competition (not to mention Nintendo's games are great of course). I don't see it getting that high for a 3DS.

 

[Ryu Shimazu]

Why would it be over $400 when the Wii was barely under half of that?

Nintendo thrives because they keep their prices lower than their competition (not to mention Nintendo's games are great of course). I don't see it getting that high for a 3DS.

Sony and Microsoft = Publix, old time Grocery Stores, K-Mart, etc etc

Nintendo = Walmart

(Analogy for prices)

The only difference is Nintendo isn't nearly as bully as Walmart is when it comes to economics. If only people knew how mean they are...