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I thought it looked cool back then. The box looked neat =/ It did!

But then my dad got Diddy Kong Racing! Pro **** :p
 

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We dunno, but I bet it won't be over 200 for sure. It's Nintendo, they make money through cheap cost effective yet amazing products.
 

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There's no point in buying it if there's a scenario where it's better w/o 3D. That defeats the purpose.

How much does it cost again?
I suppose if you already own one of the DS's it could be a little redundant. Fortunately I've yet to buy a single DS...or any handheld since Gameboy Color. I'm probably gonna buy a 3DS though.
 

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There's no point in buying it if there's a scenario where it's better w/o 3D. That defeats the purpose.

How much does it cost again?
What about new games, better graphics, more processing power, etc.

That's like saying there's no point in buying a Wii because there are games that don't take advantage of its motion sensitivity.
 

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What about new games, better graphics, more processing power, etc.

That's like saying there's no point in buying a Wii because there are games that don't take advantage of its motion sensitivity.
This. Brawl is amazing, but it runs like a GC game in terms of motion sensor, etc.
 

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This. Brawl is amazing, but it runs like a GC game in terms of motion sensor, etc.
The only motion sensor thing I know is that you can turn on an option where if you shook the Wiimote, it would do a Smash attack (like C-stick on GCN controller)
 

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The only motion sensor thing I know is that you can turn on an option where if you shook the Wiimote, it would do a Smash attack (like C-stick on GCN controller)
The way I shake my Wiimote around, I'd get myself killed with that.
 

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There's no point in buying it if there's a scenario where it's better w/o 3D. That defeats the purpose.

How much does it cost again?
It's these kinds of posts that make me realize there are still stupid people that think this is JUST the DS in 3D.

It's a new system people.
 

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People that say the 3DS is a DS with 3D graphics apparently must also think a Playstation3 is a Playstation2 with 3 controllers instead of just a pair. That's how "close" they are together. >_>
 

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There definitely needs to be an F-Zero game on the 3DS. It's time to bring back this franchise from the dead.

Also, they should release an enhanced version of the Nintendo Puzzle Collection that was originally a JP-only game on the GCN.

It would contain not only the same three games as the original, but also Tetris, Picross, and Polarium. For the Western audiences, Panel de Pon would be replaced with an enhanced version of Pokemon Puzzle League (I'm saving the Yoshi's Island-branded version for a Yoshi Puzzle Collection that would also include Cookie and a remake of "Yoshi", the 1992 NES/GB game).
 

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People would much prefer Panel De Pon over Pokemon Puzzle League since Lip hasn't made a true debut here in the US.
 

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People that say the 3DS is a DS with 3D graphics apparently must also think a Playstation3 is a Playstation2 with 3 controllers instead of just a pair. That's how "close" they are together. >_>
I'd have to say that calling the 3DS a DS with 3DS is closer to calling the GBA a GBC with shoulder buttons.

And the PS3 can go up to four controls, btw.
 

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It's these kinds of posts that make me realize there are still stupid people that think this is JUST the DS in 3D.

It's a new system people.
BAH!

Better graphics new? iphone/PSP
Analog stick new? PSP
3D new? Virtual Boy

Help me out here, what about it is new to handheld gaming?

-edit- @UberMario, if you've actually known about the Playstation 2 longer than 2 hours then you'd know about the component that lets you play with 4 controllers. Do your homework!
 

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BAH!

Better graphics new? iphone/PSP
Analog stick new? PSP
3D new? Virtual Boy

Help me out here, what about it is new to handheld gaming?

-edit- @UberMario, if you've actually known about the Playstation 2 longer than 2 hours then you'd know about the component that lets you play with 4 controllers. Do your homework!

Because it's all that in one, and Virtual Boy failed? Its all wrapped in one and has a fairly high success rate, which makes it fairly new. Not each concept, but them all. Also, who buys i-Phone for graphics?
 

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Because it's all that in one, and Virtual Boy failed? Its all wrapped in one and has a fairly high success rate, which makes it fairly new. Not each concept, but them all. Also, who buys i-Phone for graphics?
3DS is a handheld PS3 in that case, just needs memory bigger than 4G for my "Play, Create, Share" games. To be honest I wish it had a "texting" system.

I don't have an iphone, just brung it up cause it's one of the handhelds with better graphics from previous ones.
 

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BAH!

Better graphics new? iphone/PSP
Analog stick new? PSP
3D new? Virtual Boy

Help me out here, what about it is new to handheld gaming?

-edit- @UberMario, if you've actually known about the Playstation 2 longer than 2 hours then you'd know about the component that lets you play with 4 controllers. Do your homework!
Virtual Boy failed, so it doesn't count. Plus, at least you don't need glasses that weigh a lot of pounds to look at 3D. Hell, you don't even wear glasses. And let's see, the PSP has the graphics of a PS1 (?) while the 3DS has the graphics of either the GC or the Wii (everybody is still debating this) and the analog stick... well I will admit that it's been done by the PSP has done the analog stick before, BUT the analog stick is a huge step up for the handheld industry that Nintendo has. I mean, hopefully we can finally play SM64DS without having to deal with the crappy controls that the DS brings with it's D-Pad (well, that's if Nintendo decides to make the analog stick compatible with older games that is)
 

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BAH!

Better graphics new? iphone/PSP
The Iphone is not a handheld gaming console. It's a pocket computer that spun-off from a glorified MP3 Player.

Analog stick new? PSP
Try "analog nub."

3D new? Virtual Boy
Wasn't true 3D.

Help me out here, what about it is new to handheld gaming?
3D that doesn't suck. And it has new controls (that have been done before I admit) and a load of additional features. Don't forget that it wasn't until right before it came out that Nintendo unveiled the fact that the DS has a touch screen.
 

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Yeah, they revealed it before it came out. It was just that it was the last thing they revealed a few months before the system launched.
Really? Then what were we all thinking that the DS would be? Hell, what did we think that the name of the DS would be?
 

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@Celebi, how is it fair that VB doesn't count for doing 3D first just because it had no purpose in life?

I'm talking about concepts, not performance.
Well, you made it sound like you were talking about performance

Ok then, in theory, the Virtual Boy didn't have TRUE 3D. It was like staring into a large tube and creating an illusion that anybody with technical experience can recreate on a machine like it.
 

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Really? Then what were we all thinking that the DS would be? Hell, what did we think that the name of the DS would be?
Where were you in the pre-release days of the DS? At the time, we all though that it was going to be a Game Boy with N64-quality graphics and a second screen with some other features (backwards compatibility, mic). Man, I remember when they first announced it my friends and I were all like, "why would you ever want two screens?" Looking back, we were waaaaay wrong.
 

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the PS3 can go up to four controls, btw.
I know, just used the three to correlate with PS3.

And I thought they were about similar in terms of how much of a leap they have. The DS-3DS went from N64 to Wii like graphics, while the PS2-PS3 went from GameCube caliber (or slightly better) to "WiiToo" graphics, if you know what I mean. The GBA only went "one generation" up in terms of capacity imo.
 

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Where were you in the pre-release days of the DS? At the time, we all though that it was going to be a Game Boy with N64-quality graphics and a second screen with some other features (backwards compatibility, mic). Man, I remember when they first announced it my friends and I were all like, "why would you ever want two screens?" Looking back, we were waaaaay wrong.
Let's see, when teh DS came out I was too busy being a 9 year old not knowing about the joys of IGN.

When I heard of the DS for the first time, I was informed of it's dual screens, so I guess it was a couple of months before it was released before I learned of it.
 

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You act like we should assume that you were that young Roacherman, everyone here wasn't in the single-digits when it came out.
 

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Well, you made it sound like you were talking about performance

Ok then, in theory, the Virtual Boy didn't have TRUE 3D. It was like staring into a large tube and creating an illusion that anybody with technical experience can recreate on a machine like it.
...

I assume you own both a Virtual Boy and a 3DTV to accurately compare the visuals, unless you have citations to prove this theory.

-edit- "WiiToo" doesn't exist, the capability leap of PS2 to PS3 was almost two generations.
 

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And I thought they were about similar in terms of how much of a leap they have. The DS-3DS went from N64 to Wii like graphics, while the PS2-PS3 went from GameCube caliber (or slightly better) to "WiiToo" graphics, if you know what I mean. The GBA only went "one generation" up in terms of capacity imo.
Dude, you're comparing console jumps to hand held jumps.

Consoles (baring pre-NES stuff) went 8-bit, 16-bit, 32-Bit, 64-Bit, 128-Bit, HD.

Handhelds? 8-Bit, Slightly better 8-bit, 16-bit, 64-bit, 128-bit.

As you can see, these are two very different things. And what do you mean the PS2 went to "Wiitoo" graphics? The PS3 has the best graphics in the console world right now.

Let's see, when teh DS came out I was too busy being a 9 year old not knowing about the joys of IGN.
Oh, okay.
 

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BAH!

Better graphics new? iphone/PSP
Analog stick new? PSP
3D new? Virtual Boy

Help me out here, what about it is new to handheld gaming?
As someone who owns a Virtual Boy, I can attest that VB 3D isn't very good. I guess that the 3DS will bring eyestrain-free 3D in a handheld? That's new.

I don't see why you're placing so much importance on the 3DS not having a new gimmic.
 

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Except I'm not acting like that all :confused:
Maybe I read it wrong, I thought you were being sarcastic (like "isn't it obvious what I was doing when the DS came out" kind of sarcasm) in your first sentence, sorry if it offended you, the way my post apparently didn't come out right either.

Dude, you're comparing console jumps to hand held jumps.

Consoles (baring pre-NES stuff) went 8-bit, 16-bit, 32-Bit, 64-Bit, 128-Bit, HD.

Handhelds? 8-Bit, Slightly better 8-bit, 16-bit, 64-bit, 128-bit.

As you can see, these are two very different things. And what do you mean the PS2 went to "Wiitoo" graphics? The PS3 has the best graphics in the console world right now.
A. Handhelds have always been behind consoles, the only time it was close was when the Game Boy and NES ran side-by-side.

B. 32-bit and 64-bit were the same generation, the only major system that used 64-bits was the Nintendo 64 and the only other one of note was the Atari Jaguar.

"WiiToo" doesn't exist, the capability leap of PS2 to PS3 was almost two generations.
Obviously the WiiToo doesn't exist, I was implying when the next systems come out the next nintendo system will be comparable with the current systems rivaling the Wii.
 

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Because there are people who treat it like it's something never done before.
You're right, 3D that isn't all-red and headache-inducing is nothing new.

Derp.

Seriously, if you've ever played a Virtual Boy you should know that it's not true 3D and that 3D that's executed on a normal handheld is, in fact, quite new.

The Virtual Boy is awesome in my opinion, but there's a reason it flopped.
 
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