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i don't know if deserving is a term i'd use, but should he be in? abso-****in'-lutely
Personally, I think it depends on if they're fine with a "looser" theme, so to speak. Bandana Dee's a major character in the Kirby series, but his impressive headcount is held back by the fact that he's always the supporter, as opposed to King Dedede and Meta Knight's more staggered but active roles-And even then, neither of those two are as ingrained into the essence of the Kirby series than Kirby himself. All the past DLC has been themed around something that the fighter represents, be it a single game, the whole series, or in Terry's case, the entire company.
I think this might be a Joke. Naganuma isn't exactly the bastion of serious discussion
I do love Lugia’s pot belly. pic.twitter.com/KRVpWs94We
— HIDEKI NAGANUMA｜CEO OF FUNKY FRESH BEATS (@Hideki_Naganuma) March 18, 2018
are they trying to make a sega cinematic universe? I've been focused on thinking about a Nintendo or Capcom one, but I guess a SCU would work.
I just dont want him? i dont really need a reason, well, if you could me wanting other characters more as a reason, sure. But in general, I just dont want him
Personally I would put Dixie in the Same category as Bandanna Dee. A character that has a high chance of joining at some point but at this point in time with how the DLC characters are structured I'm not sure if this is where they will get to join
No he's not. If you're going to be effortless in your bait, I'll give an effortless response too
Dixie, Impa, and BWD are pretty much all in the same category of being the obvious next picks for their franchises that would make perfect sense in the base game but unfortunately are at the mercy of DLC which doesn't help their odds. Its probably not a coincidence that two of the IP's haven't gotten any new fighters since Brawl and one needed a Smash Ballot just to get its main villain in circa Ultimate.
2020 and Bandana Dee is still written off as “Goomba with a hat” when a PLANT was revealed nearly two years ago.
yeah, DLC is... a fickle beast to say the least. i imagine it's also why K. Rool wasn't playable DLC in 4. excluding the veterans, here's the pattern i've noted with every DLC first party:
I really don't think that two Fire Emblem characters and one character from a different series are enough to really draw meaningful conclusions for how they go about first-party DLC.
It's what makes them candidates in the first place. I'd be willing to bet that Bandana Waddle Dee simply just gets out prioritized. Impa on the other hand, also has the issue of constantly being aggressively unimportant, and/or too old to do anything even remotely athletic.
I think the real answer to that is that they knew they were going to be making Ultimate when making Smash 4's DLC and thus wanted to save K. Rool and other ballot winners for it to have headliners for the next game.
To be fair I would say Dixie has two games where she's a co-main character in DKC 2 and the bigger main character in DKC3. She fell prey to Nintendo of Japan having no idea what to do with Donkey Kong after Rare was bought by Microsoft and not having much place in an era of Bongo peripherals and pegboard spin-offs. Smash in general got big at the same time DK as a franchise was in a less impressive period overall. Heck even Diddy only escaped potential obscurity because the Mario spin-offs needed a Luigi to DK's Mario. Honestly if she had come back in Returns and not Tropical Freeze, I'm betting she would have been in Smash 4.
I'd imagine it's because he just didn't have the same amount of support as Ultimate's newcomers. It should also be noted that half the base game's original newcomers has recency, while the other two were either a huge request or a big third-party. Even other popular characters like Isaac and Geno got passed over, so it seems that the bar of entry was pretty high back then.
Like I barely care for Kirby but Kirby as a series definitely has mainstream popularity.
hat goomba arguments nonwithstanding, i don't agree at all with the notion that a character is automatically bad because they're from an already-represented franchise
That's probably a fair assessment, especially considering that Donkey Kong Country Returns got a stage, and Dixie Kong would be a pretty easy semi-clone, or at the very least, a costume turned fighter. She may not be more important than King K. Rool (who stayed in throughout the wonkyness of the series because he was the big bad at the time), but I would say she's close, and the extra relevancy would have helped her out a ton.
But Donkey Kong Land 3 is in essence, a remake of Donkey Kong Country 3 for the Game Boy because the original game was too big to just port over right? In which case, I would say they don't really count as separate games.
Yeah I guess that's the reason. The interesting thing is Toad back in the day was more popular than basically all of Ultimate's old-school newcomers. The only one that placed higher than Toad was Banjo-Kazooie. But for some reason the support for characters like K. Rool and Ridley grew much bigger and Toad's didn't.
The actual levels are entirely different from DKC3. That basically makes it its own seperate game in my eyes.
I'll answer this in the context of Melee:
That (excessive number of Mario characters at the time) was also a major roadblock for Toad. And he, alongside Mew, had the problem of more popular characters ahead of them. Sakurai and HAL's intent might've been to include Toad as an NPC and as Peach's counter as a way to still include him in some form or fashion.
Yeah, there's no way Toad would have made it into Melee when Bowser and Peach were the obvious picks. And for Brawl Wario was next in line for the Mario series even though he's technically considered a WarioWare character. But by Smash 4 I don't see a reason to skip him.
I guess we can't really use the word "deserve" around these parts for particularly thoughtful reasons, but I do think that he should be next in line.
, , and is like saying that a coin can only land with its head facing up because I flipped a coin three times and all three times it landed on heads. Obviously, Smash character selection is a little more complex than a situation where there's only two equally possible outcomes, but the general principle stands: we don't have enough data to make that definitive of a conclusion.
To be perfectly honest, the fact that Rosalina got in 4 and not Toad is a big testament on how that game laser-focused on Wii and 3DS games for first party newcomers.
