Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[Ramen Tengoku]

Digimon always struck me as a "grey area" franchise. While more well known for the anime, Digimon started out as virtual pets (a spinoff of Tamagotchi in fact). The question is do virtual pets count as video games?

My line of thinking is that if something like Game & Watches are considered video games, then virtual pets like Digimon or Tamogatchi absolutely count too

 

[Perkilator]

I think I've got a little game.

List two characters you can think of that could be paired and revealed together like Hero and Banjo & Kazooie, one with mostly Japanese appeal and the other with mostly Western appeal.

Sora and Crash Bandicoot.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

I think I've got a little game.

List two characters you can think of that could be paired and revealed together like Hero and Banjo & Kazooie, one with mostly Japanese appeal and the other with mostly Western appeal.

Crash Bandicoot (the West) and Neku Sakuraba (Japan)

 

[cashregister9]

Travis was the Talk of the Town last night I made a dream song list (Some of them have naughty words)

Remixes:
Kill Or Be Killed
N.M.H.
We Are Finally Cowboys
Season of the Samurai
KM 1-1

Regular music:
Nathan Is Our Boss
Shoegazer Watched The Stars
Philistine
Vioectrolysis
Mach 13 Elephant Explosion
Silver Face
Twilight
Happy WarMore
Pleather For Breakfast
Stop Hanging DJs
Twin Electromagic
Dynamite Rocket
Dose Of Innocence
Rocket Surgeon
Beam Katana Chronicles II
Subuta.1
Subuta.2

In a perfect world we would get all of the boss themes but there are a lot so I just chose my favorites

 

[Lamperouge]

While I have no real attachment to Travis as a character yet (pls port NMH to Switch, I really want to play them), I'd totally be down for his inclusion and feel like he's more than earned his spot by now.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

I think I've got a little game.

List two characters you can think of that could be paired and revealed together like Hero and Banjo & Kazooie, one with mostly Japanese appeal and the other with mostly Western appeal.

No doubt Sora for Japan

West, idk, Ill go with the only one ill be indifferent to, Crash

 

[Dr. Jojo Phantasma]

I think I've got a little game.

List two characters you can think of that could be paired and revealed together like Hero and Banjo & Kazooie, one with mostly Japanese appeal and the other with mostly Western appeal.

Crash(West) and Arle(Japan).

 

[cashregister9]

I think I've got a little game.

List two characters you can think of that could be paired and revealed together like Hero and Banjo & Kazooie, one with mostly Japanese appeal and the other with mostly Western appeal.

Sakura (Japan)

Crash (West)

 

[SpectreJordan]

I think I've got a little game.

List two characters you can think of that could be paired and revealed together like Hero and Banjo & Kazooie, one with mostly Japanese appeal and the other with mostly Western appeal.

I’m gonna go for a reverse Hero/Banjo. Where the Japanese character is from a smaller, but beloved series while the Western character is from a mega series. So Yuri & Master Chief. They’d also be Xbox 360 bros since Tales of Vesperia was launched as a 360 exclusive.

 

[PeridotGX]

what if Suda51 was thinking "i'm gonna prank the Smash fanbase by giving a corporate sounding answer" and it worked

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

I’m gonna go for a reverse Hero/Banjo. Where the Japanese character is from a smaller, but beloved series while the Western character is from a mega series. So Yuri & Master Chief. They’d also be Xbox 360 bros since Tales of Vesperia was launched as a 360 exclusive.

oh true, how did I forget about my boy Yuri

 

[Lamperouge]

I think I've got a little game.

List two characters you can think of that could be paired and revealed together like Hero and Banjo & Kazooie, one with mostly Japanese appeal and the other with mostly Western appeal.

West: Master Chief
East: Arle Nadja

 

[LiveStudioAudience]

Travis

I think I've got a little game.

List two characters you can think of that could be paired and revealed together like Hero and Banjo & Kazooie, one with mostly Japanese appeal and the other with mostly Western appeal.

Japan: Bandana Dee
West: Scorpion

I know the former is cheating a bit given his popularity in the States but is more requested in Japan.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

I think I've got a little game.

List two characters you can think of that could be paired and revealed together like Hero and Banjo & Kazooie, one with mostly Japanese appeal and the other with mostly Western appeal.

Dante and Crash Bandicoot.

 

[SharkLord]

I think I've got a little game.

List two characters you can think of that could be paired and revealed together like Hero and Banjo & Kazooie, one with mostly Japanese appeal and the other with mostly Western appeal.

Reimu for Japan and Shovel Knight for the West. Double indies, old classic and modern success story, the major bases are covered and (almost) everyone is happy. We can swap out Shovel Knight for Steve? if we still consider Minecraft an indie or want to honor the time when it was.

 

[KillerCage]

I think I've got a little game.

List two characters you can think of that could be paired and revealed together like Hero and Banjo & Kazooie, one with mostly Japanese appeal and the other with mostly Western appeal.

East: Arle Nadja

West: Master Chief

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Iirc, they changed them back in the Mega Man X Legacy collection because it produced results like Duff McWhalen. That Maverick has got to be the most unfortunate one of the bunch. His name was originally changed to something stupid, his stage theme is just a remix of Bubble Crab's theme, His weapon was ripped from one of the previous game's weapons and they called it the Goo Shaver (who thought that was OK?), and I think they even reused Bubble Crab's main set piece for his stage.

Yeah, hence why I specified ps1 X5

I think I've got a little game.

List two characters you can think of that could be paired and revealed together like Hero and Banjo & Kazooie, one with mostly Japanese appeal and the other with mostly Western appeal.

I'd use Chief and Adol Christin then, both are characters who revolutionized the industry by quite a bit but are rather unknown outside of their regions of origin

 

[Deleted member]

I think I've got a little game.

List two characters you can think of that could be paired and revealed together like Hero and Banjo & Kazooie, one with mostly Japanese appeal and the other with mostly Western appeal.

Dark Magician and Young Wizard

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Yeah, hence why I specified ps1 X5

Oh I wasn't saying you were wrong. Just chiming in on the subject.

 

[SharkLord]

Yeah, hence why I specified ps1 X5

I'd use Chief and Adol Christin then, both are characters who revolutionized the industry by quite a bit but are rather unknown outside of their regions of origin

On the topic of Adol, I once heard that he could shake up the moveset formula by having a mobile jab like Min Min and Mega Man, a chargeable slash, and a counter when hit during the charging slash. Would that be accurate?

Also, let's give him a gimmick where he deals damage just by dashing behind an enemy, because bump controls were apparently a thing back then.

 

[Flyboy]

Travis was the Talk of the Town last night I made a dream song list (Some of them have naughty words)

Remixes:
Kill Or Be Killed
N.M.H.
We Are Finally Cowboys
Season of the Samurai
KM 1-1

Regular music:
Nathan Is Our Boss
Shoegazer Watched The Stars
Philistine
Vioectrolysis
Mach 13 Elephant Explosion
Silver Face
Twilight
Happy WarMore
Pleather For Breakfast
Stop Hanging DJs
Twin Electromagic
Dynamite Rocket
Dose Of Innocence
Rocket Surgeon
Beam Katana Chronicles II
Subuta.1
Subuta.2

In a perfect world we would get all of the boss themes but there are a lot so I just chose my favorites

This is an awesome list. I can only hope we get this many tracks, maybe with a surprise NMH3 track as well. Great choices for remixes, too. Love that it's not all NMH1 because NMH2 has some killer, killer pieces. I also feel like we'll get both the US version of Philistine and the autotuned version of Philistine that Europe got.

I'd love to see a big swinging remix of The Virgin Child Makes Her Wish Without Feeling Anything but I'm...not sure they'd be able to get away with that.

 

[DX_E]

I think I've got a little game.

List two characters you can think of that could be paired and revealed together like Hero and Banjo & Kazooie, one with mostly Japanese appeal and the other with mostly Western appeal.

I was going to pick Lara Croft and Dixie because it would be Square and Rare like before....but they're both western....in fact most of my wants appear to have more western appeal.... I'll keep it Nintendo based and go with Dixie and Rex & Pyra.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

On the topic of Adol, I once heard that he could shake up the moveset formula by having a mobile jab like Min Min and Mega Man, a chargeable slash, and a counter when hit during the charging slash. Would that be accurate?

Also, let's give him a gimmick where he deals damage just by dashing behind an enemy, because bump controls were apparently a thing back then.

I only played Bump Ys games but yeah yeah a mobile jab would be accurate to that. I should play the 3 and 4 remakes so I can see what Adol can do in a game with a bigger focus on action

 

[cashregister9]

I only played Bump Ys games but yeah yeah a mobile jab would be accurate to that. I should play the 3 and 4 remakes so I can see what Adol can do in a game with a bigger focus on action

Ys VIII, Origin and Oath in Felghana are my personal favorites.

when it comes to Falcom I prefer Trails over all but the gameplay of the later Ys games are very very fun

 

[ShrimpScampi]

That Suda quote has me optimistic that we’ll get at least something No More Heroes in Smash, although I guess we’ll wait to see what (and when) that will be.

On the topic of Adol, I once heard that he could shake up the moveset formula by having a mobile jab like Min Min and Mega Man, a chargeable slash, and a counter when hit during the charging slash. Would that be accurate?

Also, let's give him a gimmick where he deals damage just by dashing behind an enemy, because bump controls were apparently a thing back then.

I haven’t played any of the bump system games yet, so idk much about how those could translate over. I’ve played the Ys games that use the same visual style/engine as Trails in the Sky (VI, Oath in Felghana, and Origin). In Oath, he has a more or less standard sword style with a few magic specials. VI gives him three different swords that each have their own element (wind, fire, and lightning) and a slightly different style. I’m playing Memories of Celceta now, and it introduces Flash Move and Flash Guard, which are basically perfect dodging and parrying. Flash Move temporarily slows enemies down, whereas Flash Guard temporarily increases your damage. Flash Guard would be pretty easy to bring over to Smash as-is, but Flash Move might be a little trickier to balance.

If they do include Adol, I could see them using his Ys IX design and abilities, both to promote Ys IX coming to the Switch this summer and because the design is much more visually distinct than his others. Ys IX gives Adol a teleport dash kind of like what Noctis does in FFXV, so that could be an interesting mechanic to include in some way.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

I cant help buty feel sorry for people who think a "switch pro" exsist

 

[Dr.DonPatch64]

not sure what this means, but it could be important

 

[Rie Sonomura]

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not sure what this means, but it could be important

Little late there, we found that a few days ago

 

[Dr.DonPatch64]

Little late there, we found that a few days ago

Sorry, I'm very slow with news, I didn't know

 

[Ayumi Tachibana]

I haven't seen this topic brought up yet so I'll just post it here.
New 7/11 pop display with Min Min is now up until October 4th.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

I haven't seen this topic brought up yet so I'll just post it here.
New 7/11 pop display with Min Min is now up until October 4th.

OH SNAP!!!

IT’S TIME. We getting something real real soon

please

 

[SKX31]

I haven't seen this topic brought up yet so I'll just post it here.
New 7/11 pop display with Min Min is now up until October 4th.

It's time!

And not a second too soon, hopefully FP7 (and hopefully 8, please Sakurai-Sama?!) will bring the HYPE!

 

[CureParfait]

I think I've got a little game.

List two characters you can think of that could be paired and revealed together like Hero and Banjo & Kazooie, one with mostly Japanese appeal and the other with mostly Western appeal.

Eastern- Reimu
Western- Doom Guy

 

[cashregister9]

I haven't seen this topic brought up yet so I'll just post it here.
New 7/11 pop display with Min Min is now up until October 4th.

I can't remember. This insinuates that the next character will release after the 4th correct?

 

[Rie Sonomura]

It's time!

And not a second too soon, hopefully FP7 (and hopefully 8, please Sakurai-Sama?!) will bring the HYPE!

The impossible dream: OH BABY A TRIPLE (that’s right FP7 and FP8, and throw in FP9 ABSOLUTELY FREE!)

but yeah... unless they cut FP8’s and/or 9’s trailers short with a Now In Development disclaimer I don’t see that happening

BUT BY GOD I NEED IT

 

[3BitSaurus]

I can't remember. This insinuates that the next character will release after the 4th correct?

Well... not really. It means they'll release soon. Sometimes a character can be revealed before a 7/11 ad is pulled. I think we saw that with either Terry or Byleth.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Well... not really. It means they'll release soon. Sometimes a character can be revealed before a 7/11 ad is pulled. I think we saw that with either Terry or Byleth.

lets noty forget Venus did say this was tsken down before because of low sells iirc

 

[Deleted member]

I haven't seen this topic brought up yet so I'll just post it here.
New 7/11 pop display with Min Min is now up until October 4th.

OOH SNAP! FP7 IS HAPPENING EITHER THIS MONTH OR EARLY OCTOBER FOR SURE!!!! HYPE!!!!!!!

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Oh yeah.

I can definitely feel it.

Amiibo theory lives on!

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Questions & Predictions:

1. Why stick up an add for just 2 weeks?
   • Because it will become obsolete after that.
2. Why stick up an add if it's just going to become obsolete in a few days?
   • It's not, the expiration date is just when they're gonna switch adds.

What do you guys think?