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So if you buy a subscription you get 'free' easy-addition characters?
If anything, they'd just be half price.
I thought you said cross-platform, which I interpreted as crossover content, and thought "what, are they going to add a Smash game to Animal Crossing, but the only two playable characters are the new Echo Fighters?"
Nope.
Indeed. They don't even give you Mii costumes for free. They aren't going to give away Echoes.
. While the internet was exploding with salt I was just like "wow, that's a much better freebie then I had initially hoped for".
Well the popular dates are the 9th, when Nintendo's E3 presentation would have been and the 16th.
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-OOOH-kay... I don't like echo fighters very much but if they can have the properties of their normals and specials changed like the Melee clones then that's good. It's the reason why I don't hate Ken as an echo fighter. I'd give each echo fighter some different knockback angles and have their attacks deal more or less damage than their base counterparts. Too lazy to list them though so I'll just go over their specials and whatever else.
: ; Exactly the same as he was in Melee so he'd be exactly the same as... Link... He's an exception since he arrived in Smash first.: Dry Bowser; Essentially a smaller Giga Bowser with nerfs given to stop them being boss tier attacks.: Sceptile; Replace the water swords with it's Leaf Blades. Up Special would be Leaf Tornado which would be cloned from Hero instead, Neutral Special would be Energy Ball which is cloned from Mewtwo's Shadow Ball (Kind of silly how you cannot store Greninja's water shuriken), Side Special would be Pursuit where instead of controlling where Sceptile will go, Sceptile will automatically try to attack the opponent and deals more damage if they are facing away from it. Finally Down special would still be Substitute.: Dr. Luigi; Ran out of characters I wanted at this point. Contrary to Dr. Mario, Dr. Luigi would be a faster but weaker version of Luigi. He would have his slippery traction and a higher jump than Luigi. His Up special is strongest at the height of the move, Down special being Dr. Cyclone with it back to being a recovery move, Side Special (Which I call the Air Ambulance) travelling faster than Green Missile and Neutral Special being Fast Capsule taken from Dr. Mario's custom special from Smash 4 (I would change Dr. Mario's neutral special to the Mega Capsule just to match it): Dixie Kong; Up special would be changed to the hair copter, Neutral special would be a Bubble gum pop gun, Monkey Flip grab would have Dixie jump and kick off from her opponent and Down Special would be bubble gum toss which Dixie would toss away like Diddy Kong's Banana Peel but the gum has a gooey effect instead of slip effect.: Yooka & Laylee; Instead of a third jump, Holding jump while in the air will allow Yooka and Laylee to glide, Neutral B would be Sonar shot which has a subtle wind hit box. Holding down the button does not give them their own version of the breegull blaster, Up Special would be Lizard Leap, Side Special would be Reptile Rush. While it doesn't grant them super armour like wonder wing, Yooka and Laylee's attack is non committal allowing for follow up attacks. Finally their down special is unique being Sonars splosion. Charge up the attack to release a sonic wave that stuns nearby opponents and grants them super armour, this move can only be used 5 times per stock.You had me with Melee Link but then you had to say modern moveset.
So it's basically a fighters pass?
Octoling -
. A more aggressive take on the moveset. The big change is that Octoling's ink increases knockback, not damage. Splattershot is replaced by Splat Dualies, a weaker attack that you can dodge while using. Splat Roller is replaced by the dynamo roller, a much slower attack that kills directly. Splat Bomb is replaced by curling bomb, a more linear attack, but more powerful. The new final smash is taken from the end of Octo Expansion.. Turnips are replaced by bags of bells, otherwise the same.. Generally a frailer but stronger Mega Man. He has a shield, which works like Link's. He takes a few of Merga Man's old custom moves from Smash 4, namely Shadow Blade, Danger Wrap, Tornado Hold, and Plant Barrier. In his Final Smash, he is allied by all of the "secondary" characters in the Mega Man series (such as Zero), along with Mega Man & Bass.. From a statistical perspective, identical. it's up-B is Sky Uppercut, whixh is pretty much identical to Ken's Up B. Neutral and Side B have their animation altered to be a kick. Final Smash is identical functionally, but it now features Mega Blaziken using Brave Bird.. He's a bit slower, but also a bit stronger. His up B is Teleport and his Down B is Chaos Control, ripped from Mewtwo and Bayonetta respectively.. I couldn't think of anything else for the sixth slot.
With these extremely specific additions? Pretty much zero.
eh, sure, why not
I wouldn’t really think that’s enough for me to spend $60 on a full new game. Not unless it comes with all of Ultimate’s DLC already packaged in and I can sell my current game for the same price I paid for it. I’d love to see target smash back, and more fighters/stages are always great, but it sounds more like DLC than a new game to me.
Ya, I think this pass is going to be more of a mixed bag than the last one. Probably more like 3 first party, 3 third party. I could even see a 4 first party, 2 third party scenario or vice versa. But I definitely don’t think it’s gonna be 5-1 favored one way or the other.
Ah, yes, I should've added "all the DLC" as well. Fixed it.
Sakurai's "New Worlds" comment was a mistranslation. He was originally talking about expanding the world of Smash, which is much more vague about that world will expand.
That will be conveniently ignored because it wouldn't be "hype" enough.
I'm not sure if that truly implies whether we're getting first or third parties. Sakurai could be talking for example about companies with IPs that Nintendo own like Monolith Software or HAL Laboratory, who are not situated in Nintendo's HQ. I also don't think we're getting a full first party pass but I don't think this interview implies how many first or third party characters we're getting.
While that is a possibility, I think it’s fair to make an inference that he is talking about non-Nintendo affiliated companies.
I also think in context he probably meant third parties, I'm just presenting the possibility that he could've also meant companies with first party ties to Nintendo. It's hard to guess or present an estimate on how many first or third party characters we could get since stuff is still unclear about this pass.
The "other companies" part (referring the fact there are multiple and not only one) could honestly be a mistranslation due to the lack of context. Keep in mind that the Japanese language lacks plurals. Plurals are mostly made understood through context, or a number preceding it. So he could be referring to only one 3rd Party Company or multiple. The amount is still in the air.
I don't really think it's "completely wrong", when every fighter, Challenger Pack 1-6 has come from a series/game that wasn't previously in Smash whatsoever (save for the Spring Man Assist Trophy).
Besides that, "only from new worlds" is the actual mistranslation. "Expanding Smash by adding new characters" is more accurate, which explains things like ARMS quite well. It fits that, as it gives us more ARMS content, directly expanding Smash alone. 3H is no different.
I'd say no. "Expand the world of Smash" just sounds like another way to say "add more content". To me, it's like Reggie's statement: It sounds nice, but when you realize what they mean you're just like "well duh!".
Sakurai likely wouldn't make Dixie a Echo because of this all. Dark Samus is just more Echo material than Dixie. Dixie just has way too many defining abilities for her to be a Echo. Sure Dark Samus could've been more more unique, but like Pit and Dark Pit, Dark Samus is a literal clone of Samus, and thus has acces to the same basic abilities as Samus. Dixie doesn't share this with Diddy, not in the slightest. This is also why I didn't list Dixie as one of my chosen Echoes.
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-OOOH-kay... I don't like echo fighters very much but if they can have the properties of their normals and specials changed like the Melee clones then that's good. It's the reason why I don't hate Ken as an echo fighter. I'd give each echo fighter some different knockback angles and have their attacks deal more or less damage than their base counterparts. Too lazy to list them though so I'll just go over their specials and whatever else.
You had me with Melee Link but then you had to say modern moveset.
So it's basically a fighters pass?
Regardless, I don't think that particular comment should be used to narrow anything down like people had been doing earlier this year. Whatever point Sakurai was trying to get across to us was misinterpreted.
Even then, each character/series has their own reasons for being added, in other words, even if we get Spring Man, it ultimately means nothing in a unique situation for say, Waluigi or Isaac.
This is what I mean when I say that Dark Samus getting in as an echo fighter is, essentially, her consolation prize.
You know, this doesn't prove how that statement is wrong, just that you don't like what it could imply
