I'm going to have to do another read through after this, because a lot of what I just read has not yet sunk in, but I can go point by point right now and come back later with a greater perspective.
@Pierre: I like what I've seen so far. You broke out of the joke voting very quickly and easily, making a point about the first newbie mafia's errors, and seeing as you didn't play in it, that was great to see. I like the fact that you've been asking questions to see what people think, but here's one for you: You say you know full well that the votes on air were a joke, yet you continue to push the point. What makes 3 votes(not even anywhere close to lynching) made as jokes seem so scummy? Not saying if I agree or disagree just yet, but I'd like to hear what in particular makes them so interesting to you.
It's not hard to see that some of the players in this game have an inside joke where they like to lynch Airgemini Day 1. It's also the nature of a newbie game that players can easily make awful mistakes or they can try to write off scummy play as a newbie mistake, per a lot of SkylerOcon's play in Newbie Mafia 1 that Frozenflame751 called him out on. If its "funny" to get Airgemini close to lynch, I could have easily seen things bandwagoning way too far halfway under the guise of an inside joke and losing all of Day 1 like they did last game, so I decided that it would be best to try to call them out on the Airgemini joke and ask them to stop. I can't necessarily say that I find the 3 votes scummy, I don't know yet, but I can say that I definitely saw an accident waiting to happen.
Apparently you haven't been to our partychat games much. In time you'll learn everything..And offff courrse Xace is mafia, I mean, seriously?
This post seems to be the pinnacle of what Zero Beat has to offer for us. "In our party chat games, inside joke #1. /leaves" I could see us going 3 game Days until he has something to say.
But yeah, I think the others should actually come in and say something, it's kind of annoying having ghosts, because that's some obviously shady behaviour.
Called me out on what?
Me messing around until everyone shows up to do more than confirm is standard fare, Kevin.
The same goes for you. Everyone is here now, Teran17, so I hope you do not continue to hide behind the inactivity of other players.
Pierre what is your reasoning for your vote on Ace?
I think that the time you asked this question, I didn't actually have my vote on Ace anymore. I don't think my vote is on anyone, at least that's what the vote count reminds me.
1) Not at this moment no. Some haven't even bothered to say a word yet, and I'd rather not go to any conclusions without the whole picture. Who's the scummiest in my mind? Well... I could say it's you or Pierre the Scarecrow. Your aggressive nature so early on seems somewhat fishy, no? Sure it's good to be somewhat aggressive to have a greater chance of weeding out scum, but your aggressive natures seem more in line with wanting to shift the focus on others to protect yourselves from suspicion.
I cannot agree that those who are aggressive are most suspicious, and it is not simply because I am literally your example of aggressive play. First of all, I am not being aggressive, I am simply being proactive. I would not say that I am hounding anyone, but I do try to create discussion out of nothing - if the means to the discussion are not the most serious or noteworthy, the end evaluations of it most certainly can be used to draw better opinions.
Also, and you should definitely answer this question, is there anything wrong with shifting the focus onto others and away from yourself? All alignments will do that, won't they? A townie knows he is a townie and doesn't want to bring suspicion on himself. So what is wrong with what you've said I'm doing? I can understand it if you didn't like it if I were trying to draw suspicion away from another player and onto a third player, but not myself.
Xace seems a bit suspicious to me as well. Though, I think it's newbie playing, and I don't think he's trying to hide anything.
What else, SkylerOcon? Do you have any other opinions you would like to share with us? Chiming in to state one opinion and then sinking back into the shadows and allowing the town to rip itself to shreds - that is what you did in Newbie Mafia #1, isn't it? So how are you playing any differently now?
Hmmm, I think Marshy is the Serial Killer.
Teran, why do you think Marshy is the most helpful?
Florida, why do you think he is the Serial Killer? Especially after what he just said. Or is it something in what he just said that did it for you?
Personally, I think that Marshy is the least likely to be an independent role. I cannot confidently say that I think he is town nor can I say I think he is mafia, but I do think he is neither a serial killer nor a survivor, based on some smaller things that he has said.
Back with more than just responses when I have a better view of whats going on.
It makes your decision and the weight behind that decision that much weaker.
