I'm for a deadline extension, but I doubt that we will get one. Its very close to deadline already and unless its common practice here, I don't normally see deadlines extended close to the current deadline. But if Macman finds it in his heart to pity the plebian newbies then he is a good man. You're a good man, right Macman? You're a cool guy? So you'll extend the deadline?
Marshy, I would like to ask you a question about your sk-claim trap.
saying the sk claiming was a "bad idea in general" makes no sense. how is trying to lure out a guy who forces town to lose by killing them at night bad at all? he's not on our side and that's obvious. do you have any tips for the mafia?
the newbs didn't need to know that the sk claiming was a bad move for him. the point was to get the potential sk to reveal himself and if no one claimed it then it'd be okay to tell them that it was a faulty idea for the sk. i think you're a smart enough player to know that and are just saying "it was to educate you guys!" as an appeal the newbs and sadly they seem to be falling for it. they did not need to be educated about that at all
The above quote was directed to KevinM, who revealed your trap card. I understand fully the reasoning behind what you did. I also understand KevinM's reasoning that its his job to be nice to newbies. But I would like you to explain why it is necessarily scummy for KevinM to flip your trap over like that. Would mafia be afraid to out the Serial Killer? Lynching the sk would obviously allow them a day of non-mafia lynch, and the serial killer hurts the mafia as much as it hurts town. Wouldnt the mafia also want to out him? So why is it scummy that KevinM didn't follow the plan to out the sk?
I agree with Marshy's argument against Kevin. Helping out the Serial Killer like that is basically the same as helping out Mafia; it's totally anti-town.
Unvote, Vote: Kevin
Florida, you have proxied yourself on Marshy's argument against Kevin. Do you understand my question for Marshy? What is your answer?
Also Florida, what do you feel you accomplished by pressuring Riddle like that? "Because you're mafia, because you're scum, you're scum, etc." Do you seriously think the reactions that you got mean that Riddle is mafia?
Airgemini, what do you accomplish by sitting back and coasting, only answering questions when you are asked questions? If we all did that, what would the game be like?
Mentosman, isn't the reasoning behind a vigilante not shooting N1 so that we can tell if there is a Vigilante vs. a Serial killer? In the first post, the SK role PM states that he does not have to kill each night. So we won't really know which we have even if there isn't a kill. However, a vigilante killing mafia hurts the mafia approximately x2 as much as a vigilante killing town hurts the town. And there's approximately x2 as many townies as mafia. So why should a Vigilante not shoot Night 1 in this setup?
Teran17, FAILchion-, Zero Beat, where do you three stand? I am personally leaning away from a Marshy lynch because of some smaller things he said and because of the KevinM sk-trap thing, and while that latter could change, I doubt I will want to lynch Marshy. I also do not want to lynch Riddle. Other than where I am comfortably sitting per those two, I think that Florida is doing some interesting things but not necessarily in a bad way.
KevinM, can you please rephrase for me why you think Florida is scummy? I do not quite understand what you mean when you addressed him in post #217.
