Ness Question and Answer Thread, Ask Ness questions Here!

[thesage]

I'm talking about atomsk level Olimars here (like atomsk himself lol). Would that work against him?

 

[MetaMario64]

umm, anyone, ehh...

 

[Ref]

I've played blackwaltz... Never Atomsk's olimar. Characters are characters, the same things will work.

 

[MetaMario64]

k thnk bay

 

[Neon Ness]

I've played blackwaltz... Never Atomsk's olimar. Characters are characters, the same things will work.

I didn't know Black Waltz brawled. I've seldom seen him post outside of the Artwork Emporium. Unless this is a different Black Waltz altogether...

 

[Ref]

The blackwaltz that is in Enemy controller... That is the one I played.

 

[Masky]

I'm talking about atomsk level Olimars here (like atomsk himself lol). Would that work against him?

I played the best Olimar in FL (Fearless) and it seemed to work on him... only barely lost the set cause he accidently won :/ (don't even ask, bring back bad memories)

 

[Ref]

Aww I won't ask sorry to hear that... Anyway guys I'm going to get shield stun in my frame data thread on Saturday.

Just felt like it, your sig tempted me into it.

 

[CELTiiC]

Aww I won't ask sorry to hear that... Anyway guys I'm going to get shield stun in my frame data thread on Saturday.

Just felt like it, your sig tempted me into it.

Question: Is Ref turning into a Hyper Ness fan?

Answer: To be revealed...

 

[Ref]

Not really but he is still really cool.

For the fun of it.

Probably won't see another hyper Ness from Ref.

 

[thesage]

This would've been way too good to spam with.

 

[Neon Ness]

Would've been?

I think we'll see at least one more Hyper Ness from Ref.

 

[Uffe]

What have I done?

 

[Neon Ness]

What have I done?

Something amazing.

Also, I randomly found this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7fOnGuxnTw

I almost laughed out loud at 1:28 when Ness One-Two stepped Lucas' PK Thunder to stop his recovery. I officially declare Ref broken. He should be banned from tourneys. Although admittedly, that Lucas was rather sloppy.

 

[Levitas]

This thread is giving me a siezure

 

[CELTiiC]

This thread is giving me a siezure

lol, same with the Hyper Ness spam.

@ Neon - Ref owned that Lucas hands down

 

[xoxokev]

@ Neon - Ref owned that Lucas hands down

too much pwnage. i clicked on the 2nd match of the set, and Ref came back so fast after being gayed twice... even tho he lost that match, it was still exciting that he pwned so fast towards the end

 

[thesage]

Vs. Ninjalink's Lucas on Norfair I daired his pkt, meteor smashed Lucas, and then I started pkt to recover. Lucas hits the lava and then gets sent flying directly into my pkt2, which sends him into the lava. He didn't die though.

 

[Neon Ness]

This thread is giving me a siezure

No. This is giving you a seizure.

@ thesage: You're broken, too. No more spiking NinjaLink when he's trying to raise Lucas' tier status.

 

[thesage]

He still won anyways. He was sandbagging. It was clear to me so I sandbagged too. He two stocked me anyways with Rob so it didn't really matter.

Lucas < Ness btw.

 

[NinjaLink]

I hear alot of happy thoughts in here ^_^

 

[thesage]

Wait it was fun playing you and those friendlies I had with you were way too fun lol. Just saying I had no chance XP

 

[Uffe]

NinjaLink is one of my favorite Brawlers. I never played him, but still, he's cool

 

[xoxokev]

sage, did you and NL play irl?

 

[Uffe]

Well I've got a question. Possibly the most annoying thing to ever be placed in Brawl. How do you deal with Diddy Kong? I'm thinking of practicing glide tossing with Ness in Training Mode or whatever tossing method he has just so I can show Diddy Kong how I feel when I fight him. At the same time I still want to know what good ways there are to avoid slipping on Diddy Kong's Bananas. I usually come across this. Banana > glide toss > dash > grab, lather, rinse, repeat. I was able to three stock this Diddy Kong, but he two stocked me twice, which from the looks of it doesn't look like that should be embarrassing since I see Diddy Kong two stock a lot of characters.

 

[NinjaLink]

Yea me and Sage play in tourney. It seems everyone mentions 'How to fight diddy kong' when i post. This just happened in the kirby thread.

 

[xoxokev]

I don't think Ness can glide toss, I've tried it before, but got no results

 

[Uffe]

Yea me and Sage play in tourney. It seems everyone mentions 'How to fight diddy kong' when i post. This just happened in the kirby thread.

Wow. That's sad. But that's not why I wrote what I wrote. I'm only asking because he seems to be my new challenge. I've beaten this guys Diddy Kong a number of times, but still, the Bananas get annoying. I can fight him without his Bananas, but when the Bananas start to fly all over the place, that's when things get a little out of hand.

 

[Gaussis]

I don't think Ness can glide toss, I've tried it before, but got no results

He can't glide toss, but his double jump throws work as a substitute.

 

[xoxokev]

He can't glide toss, but his double jump throws work as a substitute.

What exactly is the double jump throw? ...is that kind of like Lucas' item hop thing, or "banana bounce"? http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=207161

EDIT: or is it exactly what it says it is... double jump, and then a throw

 

[Gaussis]

It's not just with bananas. Any item works and Ness's looks more like a PK Jump. Looking back at the EB360's guide, it's a PK Throw. I would still call it a DJ throw, however.

 

[Ref]

Ness can Glide toss. Grab the bananas glide throw and dash attack, it works well.. Use aerials to grab the bananas as well. Play it like most other match ups just make sure you get control of his bananas...

Ness can Glide toss, I don't know where you guys are getting this he can't thing from...

 

[Masky]

I think I discovered a very lolworthy tacic for Ness... actually I stole it from a Melee player I know and adapted it to Brawl. It's hard to do though

 

[Ref]

Tell us, hard to do doesn't mean it won't be done. Oh and everything is worthy some where...

 

[xoxokev]

When my friend uses Peach, I can almost always catch his turnips by SH air dodging or SH nair. Idk if it will work the same with Diddy's bananas. But its the same concept

 

[Masky]

I haven't used it in a match yet, but my idea is to just run off the stage and dair (without fastfalling) if they're going to recover in that area. IMO a lot of times it's really awkward to spike without doing this because you have to jump while you dair otherwise you fastfall. To dair without fastfalling and without chaning your control scheme you have to tilt the control stick down very slightly and press A after running off. I got the idea because I've been starting to learn Ganon in Melee and a very good Ganon player in the area (RockCrock) showed me this and how useful it is sometimes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5dMAAMAhN4

 

[Ref]

I do that out of grab releases at the edge. You can hit sometimes but true it's really situational.

 

[xoxokev]

Back to the glide tossing thing... I just looked it up, and you're right, Ref, Ness can glide toss... but its not a significant distance imo...

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=172861&highlight=ness

there's the thread if anyone's interested, I highlighted Ness so it would be easy to find

 

[thesage]

I like djc throwing items with Ness since that's how I used to space turnips with Peach in melee. I usually just try to grab naners with the z airdodge and throw them up so that way when they land, the diddy might forget they're yours.

Ness spike > Diddy's up. Just beware of the rockets lolz. Pkt works for popping him up or tailwhipping, but I like the spike better now.

 

[FireKirby7]

Here's a stumper:

What's Ness' fastest aerial?


I need to know this for momentum canceling.

And by "fastest aerial", I mean aerial with the least ending lag.

Sorry if this hasnt been asked before, i cant read the thread now, its late. T_T
BTW Hi Ness boards :D