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Event - MLG Anaheim 2014 MLG Columbus: Mew2King wins again! (3-1 vs Ally).

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ksizl4life

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EC is not that good now. Don't let the trolls feed you, NJ is trash. Me and Cable are inactive, so only ADHD and Atomsk are top players that consistently place that I would expect to perform well on a national level. Ksizzle has variable activity. DM is inconsistent these days. Inui's activity and performance is also variable. I never know what to expect of Keitaro. Lots of players show potential, but no one is really bridging the gap into becoming a powerhouse that I would expect to perform on a national level. Like I said, only ADHD and Atomsk are top level threats from this state now. Malcolm is pretty good, but neglects to perform on a national level.

NY has Shadow, Ninjalink, and Anti. Snakeee is busy with school, Shadow seems to have hit a plateau, Ninjalink is very good, but has always produced variable results, and Anti doesn't travel.

Bum doesn't focus on Smash or travel. Teh_Spammerer quit, D1 has great potential but doesn't practice/play enough, etc.

NY/NJ just has pretty much 4 players that should be considered a major threat at MLG. Ninjalink, Shadow, ADHD, and Atomsk. While Shadow didn't perform as well as I expected, everyone can have an off day, and he did perform splendidly at Pound.
eh nothing better to do. might as well **** some ignorance.

NJ is most certainly not trash. Speak for yourself, broski. Yup, I agree that ADHD and Atomsk consistently place in tourneys. Are they the only ones? No. MLG was the only tourney I have ever placed and done bad at. Other than that, I've never disappointed. Yup, I have variable activity. Same for Diem and Inui. Doesn't mean we're bad or 'trash" like you put it. Keitaro now, is very inconsistent. No one's showing that they're a powerhouse? Looks like you don't pay attention to your own state. Nairo and Orion have stepped it up tremendously. They both won tourneys this weekend and have amazing names as of late to their win list. And I'm **** sure they'd place at MLG, especially with their unique play style.

Shadow seems to have hit a plateau? Did I miss something or have you been smoking? Same as me, Shadow has only really placed badly once, and that was at MLG. This guy keeps winning tourneys around here and consistently beating Atomsk, ADHD, Inui, etc. He hasn't hit one. He's getting better and better. I agree with your take on NL and Anti though.

No, NJ/NY does not only have 4 players that can do well at a national. Stop being so delusional. Yes, some can maybe not afford to travel, too young, etc. But you'd be one hell of a liar to say those are the only 4 that can place at MLG. And cut that **** about Shadow not doing so well at MLG and doing amazing at Pound. Didn't I do the same as well as many others?

-ton of respect for Pierce7D
 

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what? how does orion stepping it up mean hes a powerhouse rofl. I wont comment on nairo since hes apparently really good and it could be a possibility but when i think of "powerhouse" I think of someone who is a threat to every top player/can get top 8 in nationals
 

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eh nothing better to do. might as well **** some ignorance.

NJ is most certainly not trash. Speak for yourself, broski. Yup, I agree that ADHD and Atomsk consistently place in tourneys. Are they the only ones? No. MLG was the only tourney I have ever placed and done bad at. Other than that, I've never disappointed. Yup, I have variable activity. Same for Diem and Inui. Doesn't mean we're bad or 'trash" like you put it. Keitaro now, is very inconsistent. No one's showing that they're a powerhouse? Looks like you don't pay attention to your own state. Nairo and Orion have stepped it up tremendously. They both won tourneys this weekend and have amazing names as of late to their win list. And I'm **** sure they'd place at MLG, especially with their unique play style.

Shadow seems to have hit a plateau? Did I miss something or have you been smoking? Same as me, Shadow has only really placed badly once, and that was at MLG. This guy keeps winning tourneys around here and consistently beating Atomsk, ADHD, Inui, etc. He hasn't hit one. He's getting better and better. I agree with your take on NL and Anti though.

No, NJ/NY does not only have 4 players that can do well at a national. Stop being so delusional. Yes, some can maybe not afford to travel, too young, etc. But you'd be one hell of a liar to say those are the only 4 that can place at MLG. And cut that **** about Shadow not doing so well at MLG and doing amazing at Pound. Didn't I do the same as well as many others?

-ton of respect for Pierce7D
I deliberately excluded Nairo from my post for other reasons. I did not forget him, and am impressed with the boy's accomplishments. However, one additional player does not really alter my point.

I personally don't know what the hell you're doing. I love you to death, but I might as well flip a coin if I'm trying to guess whether or not you're going to show up to a tourney. The same is true for myself and Cable. With the three of us not consistently entering singles, the level of competition significantly drops. This is undeniable truth.

To rest this case, you, Cable, and myself were ALL ABSENT from Armeggedon. BTW, I looked at the results for that particular OUTLIER after I made that last post. I don't believe Nairo had ever beaten Shadow or Atomsk before that (though his wins on myself and ADHD are impressive to be sure.) I also don't think he's ever taken you or Cable out of tourney, and I know that he hasn't taken Anti out of tourney. Now that I see he can combat Atomsk and Shadow, I'm a bit more comfortable throwing his name out when talking about competing on a national level. I clearly stated that you're talented, merely having only variable activity, so I couldn't rely on saying you were a powerful part of the region, in terms of expected performance at an MLG. I've heard 0 word on whether or not you even plan on going to future MLG events. The last thing I heard from you was after your disappointing and worst performance ever at Orlando, you said "This is what I get for playing again and going to MLG." How am I the fool for not interpreting this as a possibility that you might not be so eager to attend another?

I love Orion to death. I think he's a fabulous player. I do not at all feel guilty saying that I do not believe he's up to taking on MLG at a national level. Keep in mind I'm talking about really playing for some gold here, and trying to hit top 16.

Shadow's been consistently beating Atomsk and ADHD really? I dunno. Seems like it's been going pretty even to me, but last time I saw him play, he seems to be at a halt of improvement. He's already a bit ahead of most of the region, so it's expected that he'll continue to perform well for a while. I also stated that it's expected for him to do well.

ADHD is rusty as hell, and definitely not in his prime. He's still good at adapting, but he's slower and less precise. I wasn't even trying to get into all of that, but since you're calling me out . . .

So pretty much, between Nairo, whose case I have just now clarified, and Orion, who I am basically saying that I don't have confidence that he'd top at an MLG, I think you actually agreed with pretty much everything I said. GTFO with that trash broski. Oh, I'll agree to disagree with Shadow's growth in skill.

Hell, just pull up the results from this weekend:

Singles
1: Nairo ($225.00) :metaknight: New blood in discussion. I agree with you here.
2: Shadow ($112.50) :metaknight: One of the 4 I said
3: Atomsk ($67.50) :metaknight: One of the 4 I said
4: Jash ($45.00) :toonlink: Accidentally forgot about this guy. He's a beast, and could do well, if he didn't have such a block against MK.
5: Yes! :snake::wolf::wario::fox: Talented, but generally inactive and uncaring about the game. Still placed high, which is LOL
5: Cheese :metaknight::popo: Has been stepping it up. It has yet to be seen if he's good enough to reach National Fame though. He's good, but honestly, I doubt it.
7: Orion :metaknight: Yeah . . . 7th at a local with MK just ain't cutting it if you're talking about competing on a national level. Not bad, like I said, but eh.
7: Rizakor :metaknight: Impressive, but seriously? He's no longer a random, but we're letting guys like Rizakor outplace people like Inui and Keitaro?
9: Inui :metaknight: Yeah, you're not placing Nationally.
9: Penta :gw: Not bad.
9: Pwii :metaknight: Good job, Yoshi sux
9: Sagat
LOL
13: Kimchi :ike: Mini San. OH! I guess San counts as EC, and he's ****** stuff. Too bad San never comes down to actually play with the rest of NJ/NY at most of our tourneys. Notice his absence from these results. Still, I guess that boosts viable players to like 5. San still doesn't make NJ/NY stacked though.
13: Smurf :metaknight: I don't remember who you used to main, but good job switching to MK and stepping it up.
13: MIB :warioc: Notice this is the second PA player cutting into NJ/NY placings.
13: DeltaCod :yoshi: Yoshi sucks. Talented player with potential, but has a lot to learn, and is far from placing Nationally.
17: Xionix :diddy:
17: Izumi :toonlink::metaknight:
17: TUSM :dedede:
17: LooneyTunes
17: Doom
17: Snakeee
17: Keitaro
17: Jbandrew
25: Fury
25: Cloudfox
25: Rookie
25: Kaylo
25: Dr. Grandpa
25: BigM
25: Pride
25: RJ
33: Anubis
33: MechWarrior
33: Phillyrider
33: Remix
33: Joker
33: DreamBoatLoinCloth
33: Ham
33: Shippo
33: Kaila
33: Estaban
33: Idra
33: Snort
33: Laago



****, look at all that Infantry in 17/25. Doom, Snakeee, Keitaro, Jband, Fury? LMAO. Everyone from there on is upper mid level players and down. Aside from Snakeee in his prime, I wouldn't expect anyone there to place really high on a national level, and Snakeee hasn't been in his prime for a WHILE now.

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what? how does orion stepping it up mean hes a powerhouse rofl. I wont comment on nairo since hes apparently really good and it could be a possibility but when i think of "powerhouse" I think of someone who is a threat to every top player/can get top in nationals
 

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Well, so far, the vVv players for Smash all include personal friends of mine that are extremely respectful.

MikeHaze
Havok
M2k
Atomsk (He jokes around a lot, but he's not a douche, despite his cockiness)
Shadow (Very humble as well)

And I've had only positive face to face interactions with vVv reps. So I support them.
wait isn't lee also a part of vVv? .__.
 

ksizl4life

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what? how does orion stepping it up mean hes a powerhouse rofl. I wont comment on nairo since hes apparently really good and it could be a possibility but when i think of "powerhouse" I think of someone who is a threat to every top player/can get top 8 in nationals
World doesn't revolve around you.

When I think about it, I think of the real definition!

"one having great power; one having great drive, energy, or ability"

Orion has been beating players like Cheese, Atomsk, Inui (4 times in one week rofl), Keitaro, Shadow, and just won a tourney today. If you're gonna put Nairo in possiibilty ( I agree with u there) then at least put Orion too. I think hes showing the powerhouse in him more and more every week.
 

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World doesn't revolve around you.

When I think about it, I think of the real definition!

"one having great power; one having great drive, energy, or ability"

Orion has been beating players like Cheese, Atomsk, Inui (4 times in one week rofl), Keitaro, Shadow, and just won a tourney today. If you're gonna put Nairo in possiibilty ( I agree with u there) then at least put Orion too. I think hes showing the powerhouse in him more and more every week.
You could be right on that regard. It's entirely possible he's been stepping it up behind my back, and I'm sleeping on him mad hard. I'll admit to not even knowing that he won a tourney recently.
 

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Has NY/NJ forgot about Dabuz? lol. I heard the kid came back from losers to take out Shadow 6-0 in gfs, but I could be wrong. That kid is amazingly talented.
 

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lmao i dont believe that tournament showed my potential but im not going to sit here and make johns about me sding or whatever. ill just keep getting better and ill try and produce the best results i can for NJ before i move

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Why congratulate M2K? Anyone can win with MK. NickRiddle got third with ZSS!
 

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Why congratulate M2K? Anyone can win with MK. NickRiddle got third with ZSS!
Anyone CAN, but only M2K DID. No other MK in the world could have beaten Ally and NickRiddle and Lee Martin in a row like M2K did.
 

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Wow I feel bad for M2k, with Ally **** talking him about how he only knows his character and isn't really the best, and saying he wouldn't be the best if MK was banned. M2K already proved himself in 2 games, best to keep your mouth shut ally, especially coming off two finals losses. Don't disrespect someone else's hard work.
 

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oh, nice. now m2k gets the treatment every other mk mains get... sucks haha.
 

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rofl at underdog saying m2k isnt the best, where the heck did I say he wasnt, he is the BEST atm. Wah Wah more LOL.

Oh I beated him in low tier C.Falcon vs his Ike, yeah he isnt the best skillwise overall. ;D
 

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Nairo's age will never get him the respect he deserves, sadly.
Nahh trick, Back in my prime when i was 14-15 i was still respected he just has to prove himself at a large tournament (like how i did at Apex)
 

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rofl at underdog saying m2k isnt the best, where the heck did I say he wasnt, he is the BEST atm. Wah Wah more LOL.

Oh I beated him in low tier C.Falcon vs his Ike, yeah he isnt the best skillwise overall. ;D
Perhaps you didn't say he wasn't the best, but you did degrade him by saying that he isn't the most skilled, and that he is only the best because of M2k. I quote from the closed thread:

"im overall more skilled than Jason in this game, jason just knows his character better. I wish there was 3v3 char tourneys, id win olol"

And you were responding to someone who said "M2K would still be the best even if MK was banned."

In response, you said "LOLLOLOLOLOLOl, No and NO lololol"

You sound extremely disrespectful, especially considering M2k proved he can be a top player without just riding a character in Melee.:urg:
 

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Perhaps you didn't say he wasn't the best, but you did degrade him by saying that he isn't the most skilled, and that he is only the best because of M2k. I quote from the closed thread:

"im overall more skilled than Jason in this game, jason just knows his character better. I wish there was 3v3 char tourneys, id win olol"

And you were responding to someone who said "M2K would still be the best even if MK was banned."

In response, you said "LOLLOLOLOLOLOl, No and NO lololol"

You sound extremely disrespectful, especially considering M2k proved he can be a top player without just riding a character in Melee.:urg:
M2K is SUPER skilled in Melee, he can use mostg of the cast and play like godlike. Not in brawl. this is my point. there is MANY people more skilled overall, which doesnt really matter in the end because winning with your main and being the best at who you play is the most important. Just saying he is just SKILLED AS HELL with MK. now excuse me, I have nothing more to say about this. Think what you think, I'll try not to start a fight
 

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Talking about who is more "skilled" is pure speculation. All we have to go on is pure results. As far as I'm concerned, winning means that you are the most skilled.

Under your view, we might as well say that San or Nick Riddle are the most skilled, because of how they did with their respective characters. But we can't. Because that would be pure guesswork and speculation.
 

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Talking about who is more "skilled" is pure speculation. All we have to go on is pure results. As far as I'm concerned, winning means that you are the most skilled.

Under your view, we might as well say that San or Nick Riddle are the most skilled, because of how they did with their respective characters. But we can't. Because that would be pure guesswork and speculation.
You're looking into it a little too much to be honest.
 

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M2K is SUPER skilled in Melee, he can use mostg of the cast and play like godlike. Not in brawl. this is my point. there is MANY people more skilled overall, which doesnt really matter in the end because winning with your main and being the best at who you play is the most important. Just saying he is just SKILLED AS HELL with MK. now excuse me, I have nothing more to say about this. Think what you think, I'll try not to start a fight
The only way this can be true is if you pick up MK and do the things that MK is doing with him. You've already claimed to drop MK for snake because of how broken MK was but as soon as you lost you went right back to snake. You clearly don't have the time vested in MK as m2k has however if you're going to talk like this at least put the work in and back up your claims
 

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The only way this can be true is if you pick up MK and do the things that MK is doing with him. You've already claimed to drop MK for snake because of how broken MK was but as soon as you lost you went right back to snake. You clearly don't have the time vested in MK as m2k has however if you're going to talk like this at least put the work in and back up your claims
I could, sadly my fingers doesnt like going on the tornado button lolol so it might be kinda impossible.
 

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Talking about who is more "skilled" is pure speculation. All we have to go on is pure results. As far as I'm concerned, winning means that you are the most skilled.

Under your view, we might as well say that San or Nick Riddle are the most skilled, because of how they did with their respective characters. But we can't. Because that would be pure guesswork and speculation.
double post, being able to use various characters in the game at top level = more knownledge about the game. 1 char doesnt mean much. I am done for real.
 

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Being able to use various characters means nothing if you're not winning. Why are you rewarding using multiple characters instead of truly mastering one? Last I checked, the winner of a game is the one who wins, not the one who uses more characters.

And, knowledge about the game =/= winning, or skill for that matter.
 

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As far as I'm concerned, winning means that you are the most skilled.
It seems as if you are making winning = skill a generalization in this case, underdog, in which I don't agree with.

A great example is the Mario Party.

Not saying M2K is winning purely on luck, he is extremely skilled (this post has nothing to do with that matter). But with what you're saying, just because you've won, doesn't mean you have the most skill in every case.
 

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I'm waiting for M2K to come in here, say he isn't the best, and that he is probably not going to win the next event.

Then, he'll win the next event no problem. And the cycle will repeat.
 
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