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Event - MLG Anaheim 2014 MLG Columbus: Mew2King wins again! (3-1 vs Ally).

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Props to Sky Hazuki. Yeah, I know it's 33rd, yet he's the only Peach player up there.. <3

And OMG YESYES. I love that those 2 DK players made it too top 17!!! THANK GOD.


D Tier ftw.
 

Supreme Dirt

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Kinda sad there was no Ganon, but it's kind of to be expected. Nice to see only one Diddy, I hate the matchup so much.

Seriously, though, you people complain waaaaay too much about MK. Sure, you all have bad matchups or you play MK. There are plenty of characters who have only a slight disadvantage against MK. Learn one of them. This whole "MK won half the top 10 omg ban" mentality only contributes to more people picking him up and thus more MKs placing. Just learn the matchup and deal with it.[/rant]

Anyways, I hope to at least play a friendly against M2K at some point next year. Gonna get seriously *****, but I need the matchup experience and he's the best Meta Knight in North America.

God I hate having to pick up non-Ganon characters...
 

Sleek Media

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Its not dumb its true. Hes the most idiot friendly character in smash history.
Truth. I also noticed that the higher someone's post count, the more anal they are about defending MK (and all the other boring aspects of the metagame). See, this guy only has about 100 posts. He's like me - just here to kill some time and talk a little Smash, maybe let you 3000+ elites know how out of touch you are with the majority of the community.
 

Supreme Dirt

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Truth. I also noticed that the higher someone's post count, the more anal they are about defending MK (and all the other boring aspects of the metagame). See, this guy only has about 100 posts. He's like me - just here to kill some time and talk a little Smash, maybe let you 3000+ elites know how out of touch you are with the majority of the community.
Moron. I'm sorry, nothing personal. I'm personally against any ban except a prohibition on Mario, in accordance with my sig.

As to the easiest character, that would be Game and Watch. Meta Knight is second.

Though I suppose I am of course a senior member in disguise, defending Meta Knight. The horror!

40% of the scene, or thereabout, plays Meta Knight. Therefore, a large amount of Meta Knights will win because more people play him.
 

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Truth. I also noticed that the higher someone's post count, the more anal they are about defending MK (and all the other boring aspects of the metagame). See, this guy only has about 100 posts. He's like me - just here to kill some time and talk a little Smash, maybe let you 3000+ elites know how out of touch you are with the majority of the community.
Another dumb post. Why are you judging people by their post count? That has nothing to do with the fact that you think MK should be banned because he's popular.

I play MK because he's actually a fun character to play. I don't like all the other characters because they are campy and boring, or have ****ty recoveries. MK can play aggressive and not be severely punished for it.

People with 3000+ posts are no different from people with less than that. I just happen to post a lot & like talking.
You're just another whiner who can't do anything except complain about how broken MK is,
 

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Truth. I also noticed that the higher someone's post count, the more anal they are about defending MK (and all the other boring aspects of the metagame). See, this guy only has about 100 posts. He's like me - just here to kill some time and talk a little Smash, maybe let you 3000+ elites know how out of touch you are with the majority of the community.
Actually, I'm pro-ban. I'm telling you to stop posting dumb stuff because you are going about trying to get MK banned by using faulty evidence and not explaining your arguments, not because you are saying MK should be banned. Stop giving us pro-banners a bad name.
 

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lol @ these people.
"I also noticed that the higher someone's post count, the more anal they are about defending MK"
Stop posting dumb stuff.
 

LaIotun

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Top 10 is half MK. Still no ban.
Stop posting dumb stuff
Can't help noticing your MK avatar.
Then allow me.




Stop posting dumb stuff
Truth. I also noticed that the higher someone's post count, the more anal they are about defending MK (and all the other boring aspects of the metagame). See, this guy only has about 100 posts. He's like me - just here to kill some time and talk a little Smash, maybe let you 3000+ elites know how out of touch you are with the majority of the community.
Then allow me.




Stop posting dumb stuff
 

Sleek Media

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Another dumb post. Why are you judging people by their post count? That has nothing to do with the fact that you think MK should be banned because he's popular.

I play MK because he's actually a fun character to play. I don't like all the other characters because they are campy and boring, or have ****ty recoveries. MK can play aggressive and not be severely punished for it.

People with 3000+ posts are no different from people with less than that. I just happen to post a lot & like talking.
You're just another whiner who can't do anything except complain about how broken MK is,
So...your reasons for playing MK are that he has insane recovery and can attack without having to worry about defending? Along with having no counters, how exactly is he not broken again? Can anyone actually justify him as a balanced character, or is "stop posting dumb stuff" the best you've got?

He shouldn't be banned because he's popular. He should be banned because he's broken. The only reason he's not banned is because of his popularity.
 

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So...your reasons for playing MK are that he has insane recovery and can attack without having to worry about defending? Along with having no counters, how exactly is he not broken again? Can anyone actually justify him as a balanced character, or is "stop posting dumb stuff" the best you've got?

He shouldn't be banned because he's popular. He should be banned because he's broken. The only reason he's not banned is because of his popularity.
You just over emphasized my post just to make me look like I play MK because he's top tier. MK's recovery is the best, yes. There are other character who have good recoveries, that doesn't mean they are broken.
I said that I like to play MK because he does not receive severe punishment for playing aggressive. If you've even watched 1 match of M2K he gets punished for some of the things he does, because he has patterns just like everyone else.

No one needs to explain MK as a balance character because that's impossible. He's broken. That's why we have rules to limit him from doing broken stuff, ie planking.

You say you come here to have a good time and talk but all I see in your post history is wa wa wa MK is gay wa wa wa MK is broken. I don't even understand why you play this game since it is apparently so horrible because MK exists in it.
 

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Another dumb post. Why are you judging people by their post count? That has nothing to do with the fact that you think MK should be banned because he's popular.

I play MK because he's actually a fun character to play. I don't like all the other characters because they are campy and boring, or have ****ty recoveries. MK can play aggressive and not be severely punished for it.

People with 3000+ posts are no different from people with less than that. I just happen to post a lot & like talking.
You're just another whiner who can't do anything except complain about how broken MK is,
He is broken. It would just be more fun to see some character diversity except MK,MK,Diddy,Mk,MK,MK,Mk,MK,MK,Sanke,MK,MK,MK,Falco,Snake,MK,MK,Wario.

As a Peach main I actually think its a fun match up. But he is without a doubt broken.

Ive noticed the higer post count gets the softer I get on MK! :O

cwutididthar?
 

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1st (1)Mew2King - Meta Knight
2nd (2)AllyOrNotAlly - Snake
3rd (11)NickRiddle - Zero Suit Samus
4th (13)LeeMartin - Meta Knight/Lucario
5th (82)-Dojo- -Meta Knight
6th (143)L-storm - Diddy Kong
7th (21)Tearbear - Meta Knight
8th (4)ESAM - Pikachu
9th (3)TyRaNt-WC - Meta Knight
10th (27)Shaky3 - Ness
11th (26)san37111 - Ike
12th (121)JudgeMeow - Meta Knight
13th (19)Seibrik - Meta Knight
14th (22)_choice_ - Falco
15th (9)Atomsk92 - King Dedede/Ice Climbers
16th (183)RichBrown - Olimar

TOURNAMENT: St. Phillips Brawl
LINK: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=267989
DATE: March 6th, 2010
LOCALE: Southwest
ENTRANTS: 27
ENTRY: $5.00
1 Espy (Sonic)
2 Hylian (Ice Climbers)
3 K Prime (Pikachu)
4 Nike20 (Marth)
5 PyleDriver (Snake/King Dedede)
5 GBang (Peach)
7 Kyro (Ness/Olimar)
7 KDawg (Olimar)

TOURNAMENT: Waba 3/6/10
LINK: http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=9749182&postcount=3722
DATE: March 6th, 2010
LOCALE: Atlantic South
ENTRANTS: 31
ENTRY: $10.00
1 Kismet (Falco)
2 TheReflexWonder (Pokémon Trainer/Fox)
3 BigLou (Luigi)
4 Scat (Snake/Luigi/Olimar)
5 rayku (Lucario)
5 Elev8 (Ice Climbers/King Dedede)
7 Player-1 (Diddy Kong)
7 4GOD (King Dedede)

TOURNAMENT: Alberta Beatdown
LINK: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=268226
DATE: March 6th, 2010
LOCALE: Canada
ENTRANTS: 25
ENTRY: $10.00
1 Superboom (Snake)
2 KillL0ck (Marth/Snake)
3 Alphicans (Falco/Meta Knight/Mr. Game & Watch)
4 Minus (Falco)
5 Fiji (Snake/Meta Knight)
5 Lime (Snake)
7 Kuraudo (Sonic)
7 T-Block (Diddy Kong)


etc


Is that enough character diversity for you
 

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Isn't the point of the metagame to only represent the top playing ability for each character? Unless M2K, Ally, etc participated in those other tournaments and lost, it doesn't mean anything regarding whether or not MK needs to be taken out of the metagame. Conversely, a wide variety of characters ranking BELOW MK in tournaments also means nothing.

Again, I don't understand how you can openly admit MK is broken, and in the same breath, claim he shouldn't be banned. What exactly warrants a ban if being broken does not? Do you understand that "MK is broken and therefore easy to play, and I think easy is fun" is not a valid argument?
 
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The two things that really break MK character wise is his two abilities to stall. One being IDC, and the other being his planking tactics.

TOs placed a limit on his planking.
We banned his IDC.

There's nothing gamebreaking about him as a character now, other than the fact that he is, without a doubt, the best player in the game though.

As for HOW good, well, that's for another discussion in a currently closed topic. >_>
 

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i'm fourteen and who are you to talk about the by-definition-irrational and non-logical, indeed non-epistemic nature of fun? what if i go around squashing flies or kicking cats and have fun? except when people have fun and it's legal and wholesome etc together then it's the CONSENSUS that keeps those people getting together and is what got them together in the first place. it is the consensus that brawl is fun (obviously) amongst brawlers and it is the unfortunate (for you) situation that it is the incomplete (80% at least though, so enough to make a huge majority) consensus that meta-knight is not only fun but O.K. i.e. one of the reasons people start playing brawl.

you're saying he's ruining the game. maybe, except if everyone except you doesn't think it's ruining the game, then your definition of ruining needs to be altered. as horrible and unjust as that is.
 

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Isn't the point of the metagame to only represent the top playing ability for each character? Unless M2K, Ally, etc participated in those other tournaments and lost, it doesn't mean anything regarding whether or not MK needs to be taken out of the metagame.
I don't really understand what you are trying to get at. You want MK to be banned because Mew2King, the best Meta Knight, almost always takes first because of MK?

SM said:
Conversely, a wide variety of characters ranking BELOW MK in tournaments also means nothing.
That is obvious, and true, but I'm not even talking about tournament results where characters other than Meta Knight place lower than a Meta Knight.

SM said:
Again, I don't understand how you can openly admit MK is broken, and in the same breath, claim he shouldn't be banned.
I said that he's broken without rules. If he had no rules, he could hit them enemy a couple times, and just run away the whole match, plank, EDC around and it would be near impossible to win.

Although MK has deadly frame traps that other characters may not have, that doesn't mean he is unbeatable. Humans play MK.

SM said:
What exactly warrants a ban if being broken does not? Do you understand that "MK is broken and therefore easy to play, and I think easy is fun" is not a valid argument?
No, wtf? That is not my argument at all. For me it's "MK is broken because of scrooging/planking & therefore rules should be created to stop scrooging & planking."
You are the one who implied first that MK should be banned because there are many MKs in the top 10 of MLG Columbus. That implies hostility toward popularity of a character. You're saying he's ruining the game because there are a lot of MKs. Who are you to say that people are not having fun playing Brawl just because MK exists in the game?
 

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Turning into another mk discussion.
 
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