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Metaknight iz zo brokn!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Falco's fair my be worst in terms of damage and lag, however, it can be an efficient gimping tool if used correctly.
 
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Rukkiko said:
Falco's fair my be worst in terms of damage and lag, however, it can be an efficient gimping tool if used correctly.
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but with his horrible verticle recovery if the last hit misses he's in trouble. with yoshi its less lagy he has a good verticle recovery and if it sour spots it hits them outwards. yoshi's is not that bad.
 
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Yoshi's fair is like your basic dair, killer sweetspot, sourspot still has nice knockback. I don't see whats so bad about it.
 
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XienZo said:
Yoshi's fair is like your basic dair, killer sweetspot, sourspot still has nice knockback. I don't see whats so bad about it.
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EVERY SINGLE ATTACK IN THE GAME OUTRANGES IT

its not even funny how much this move lacks range...

plus its slow and weak ˙˙˙xoqʇɹnɥ s,ıɥsoʎ ɟo ǝpısuı sı xoqʇıɥ ǝɥʇ puɐ

brinboy789 said:
quite fast, yes. good knockback, yes. worth the freakin 2 second lag afterward? not really. but i think ivysaurs dsmash wins this one. its terrible >_>, has like NO knockback
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melee jiggz rest has two seconds of lag afterwards... is that bad?
I know its a tough comparison, but the lag doesn't matter if your sure to hit with it
 
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viparagon said:
EVERY SINGLE ATTACK IN THE GAME OUTRANGES IT

its not even funny how much this move lacks range...

plus its slow and weak ˙˙˙xoqʇɹnɥ s,ıɥsoʎ ɟo ǝpısuı sı xoqʇıɥ ǝɥʇ puɐ
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Well, thats why you don't use it to approach. You use it to snipe down those Snakes and MKs since the timing goes great with Yoshi's first jump. Its not weak at all, especially if its properly sweetspotted.
viparagon said:
melee jiggz rest has two seconds of lag afterwards... is that bad?
I know its a tough comparison, but the lag doesn't matter if your sure to hit with it
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Its not going to KO at 50-some, but instead, your opponent could probably run back to you before you stop spinning. It has the knockback to set up for a gimp, but you can't follow it up for a gimp...
 
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XienZo said:
Well, thats why you don't use it to approach. You use it to snipe down those Snakes and MKs since the timing goes great with Yoshi's first jump. Its not weak at all, especially if its properly sweetspotted.
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I guess I haven't experienced with the power b/c it is so hard to hit with, much less sweetspot.

AND LOL at sniping with it, whatever the **** that means: its like sniping someone when the barrel goes behind him. Seriously, when will this ever hit (besides grab release)?
 
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Snake doesn't move much during cypher...

You can also start below them and simultaneously DJ and fair at the same time.
 
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its meteor effect is near impossible to land and is far too slow tp be used in an SH approach.

although i think falco is #1 worst, yoshis would be #2
 
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I'm pretty sure Bowser's F smash is 0th. it can lock threads on smashboards! Gimpy would agree
 
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viparagon said:
okay, you win, though falco's can at least hit...
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I think Falco's has even less range thsn it honestly, with no knowback unless your hitting them pretty high in the air, in which you have better options like dair or nair
And its definitely not last when you can use it yo 0-death MK(sometimes)
 
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brinboy789 said:
well warios dsmash doesnt star KO @ 10% right? -_- its not worth the 2 second lag.
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LOL play melee, much? it never star KOd in melee, but my point is that cooldown doesn't matter much if you make sure to hit with it. Snakes probably isn't worst tho, but either is wario
 
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brinboy789 said:
then whyd you put it there? :confused::confused::confused:
anyways, it could be either wario, jiggs, or ivysaur. they each all suck.
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it killed on the horizontal blastlines silly;)

yea, ima gonna switch it with jiggs


a petition, eh? that could work if I could make a poll somehow, but noone seems to know how...
 
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why is lucas 3rd on down b?

zeldas down b is the best

yoshis down b isnt that bad, its a good get back to stage move and does decent damage. the worst would be...well MK's has like no uses (silly IDC ban), D3's is pretty terrible, adn thats alll i can think of for now
 
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brinboy789 said:
why is lucas 3rd on down b?

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yeah, i'll probably move it down, but i put it there b/c it comes out super fast, heals, double damage, is a powerful attack, used to stall, stagespiked edge guarders, and is VERY useful when wavebounced and in recovery. If the bucket is 5 i think it deserves at least 4

DC is tough b/c u could argue its the best in the game b/c it warranted a ban, so it will be left out of the list. d3s is mildy useful for edgegaurding
 
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viparagon said:
yeah, i'll probably move it down, but i put it there b/c it comes out super fast, heals, double damage, is a powerful attack, used to stall, stagespiked edge guarders, and is VERY useful when wavebounced and in recovery. If the bucket is 5 i think it deserves at least 4
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Did rest make the list?

Oh wait its Brawl. Rest sucks.
 
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I might have to go against my main and say DK's jab is one of the worst. at least jiggs has a jab lock with it

comes out frame 5 for the first hit and the second hit comes out frame 16! thats enough time to bring up your shield
 
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