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Metaknight iz zo brokn!!!!!!!!!!!!

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viparagon

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Pit doesnt have best FSmash. Snake/Ike/DDD/Marth have beast ones.
diddy isn't quite top ten, snake's , ike's and d3s are way too slow (Im not talking most powerful, im talking best), marth's is Second, and pits is amazing (spuer fast, good knockback, hard to punish)
 

ConnorTheKid

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Pit's fsmash is fast and has good knockback but the second hit misses occasionally so it's not a reliable kill move imo.
 

M15t3R E

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I don't understand why Pit is #1 for f-smashes.
And what about Pikachu's up-smash? It's one of the strongest in the game and pretty quick.
 

viparagon

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pika's upsmash isn't that powerful anymore.
who on the top ten has a worst one (if I bump yoshi mmac will come after me :laugh:
 

viparagon

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throw to fsmash with marth is ****, and its great for edgegaurding,plus pivots and foxtrotting is really effective with it. pikas dsmash still has insane range, very quick start up, eats up shields, and is hard to punish, even though its easy to get out of.
 

viparagon

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Snake dash attack is much better than Diddy;s IMO.
how? diddy's is a safe way to pick up nanerz, can't be grabbed (or shielded or spotdodged for that matter) and can be followed up with almost anything. snakes is good, but diddys is amazing
 

K 2

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Is this based off of power, speed, usabilty...what?

You need to add more than just smashes...aerials, specials, tilts are important too you know.
 

viparagon

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ummm.... i've already seen that thread and its completely different. Mine is based off of moves, not categories. I intend on elaborating on these better, I'm just getting input so I don't end up writing a wall of text for a character only for them ot get bumped. sorry i fit looks like other ones for now. I PROMISE IT WON'T BE.

it's not THAT fast. and it's range is pretty bad.
its VERY fast and its range is actually quite good. wario's doesn't have much range either, yet its still very good
 

viparagon

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wolfs f tilt is not good
yeah, your right. fix'd

correction: robs is the best dsmash. it comes out fastrer then MK (according to char specific frames) and does way more damage
it comes out 1 frame faster, barely does more damage, but doesn't have as good of a tragectory and does less knockback, so MK >rob. all move him up though!

And I added dtilt!
 

SonicBoom2

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Why isn't Jigglypuff in dash attacks?
Hers is somewhat fast and pretty powerful.

Ike needs to be in UpSmashes somewhere.
It covers ALL around him.

I think Mario and Luigi is uptilt should switch.
Luigi can barely get the opponent into a utilt lock. Mario can do a couple hits and start to follow up.
 

viparagon

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Why isn't Jigglypuff in dash attacks?
Hers is somewhat fast and pretty powerful.

Ike needs to be in UpSmashes somewhere.
It covers ALL around him.

I think Mario and Luigi is uptilt should switch.
Luigi can barely get the opponent into a utilt lock. Mario can do a couple hits and start to follow up.
believe me, both of those ALMOST made the cut! As for the uptilt, luigi's Does lock better that marios.
 

LordWeasel

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ZZS jab can be shielded after the second hit. I think some other character should replace her.
 
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