Meta Knight Q&A Thread

[Player-4]

Away, as in away from Falco lol. If you're getting CG'd to the right, then hold right and if to the left, then to the left.

 

[Dru2]

Alright, i know this sounds fail, but i have to know.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjgaiiOh08M
At about 1:00-1:01 in the video Anti tosses the banana while sliding an incredible distance. What is this called? Also, how do you do it?

 

[Kaffei]

That's glide tossing. To glide toss, first shield, then simultaneously press a direction on the control stick and the C-stick.

 

[Ragnar0k]

Not simultaneously. Consecutively.

 

[theunabletable]

And be aware that your Froll glide toss is the only good one. If you try and Broll glide toss, you won't slide at all.

 

[milesg2g]

Froll what do you mean by Froll?
I glide toss all the time w/ Marth and I don't know the difference between a Froll and Broll Glide toss

 

[theunabletable]

^Except with MK, it only really works with his Froll, not Broll (afaik, I'll check later to be 100% sure, but right now I'm like 98% positive).

To elaborate, glide tossing is essentially cancelling a roll with an item throw. This causes you to slide while throwing it. MK's Froll glide toss is the only one that makes him slide anywhere.

 

[milesg2g]

Well how do you do the Froll 1?

 

[Ragnar0k]

Froll = forward roll.
Broll = backwards roll.

relative to the direction you're facing when you shield before the glide toss.

 

[Tokyoinamerica]

I'm a decent player learning the game. I first picked up Marth and I'm decent at best, but getting beat in tournaments. Tried other char but none fit my aggressive play style. Everyone knows this match up, na d I'm still learning. Should I pick up MK?

 

[Kaffei]

Do you think MK is fun? Do you think you will have fun playing MK?
Then pick him up.

 

[Player-4]

Basically what Kaffei said

Keep in mind though, people have more MK experience then any other character in the game

 

[milesg2g]

Basically what Kaffei said

Keep in mind though, people have more MK experience then any other character in the game

Knew this going in. My MK is pretty legit. I don't have tourney results to prove it yet but, I will soon enough I promise.

 

[Tokyoinamerica]

Basically what Kaffei said

Keep in mind though, people have more MK experience then any other character in the game

Exactly, that's what I'm afraid of. I'm usually not a high tier guy. Can't pull off any tricks.

 

[Kaffei]

Yes you can just look at Ally

 

[Rickerdy-doo-da-day]

Hello MK boards! I really wasn't sure where else to post this because I didn't want to mess up your new match up discussion threads :S

I would greatly appreciate if any of you could give some input for the Peach vs MK match up
Heres the link:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=282062

I know a couple of you MK's have fought some of our good Peach players before and getting to see the view from the other side would be nice Thanks in advance

 

[Metro_Knight]

I apologize if this question has been posted already, but I didn't feel like sifting through 100 pages of thread.

In many MK videos, I see the ability to tornado upward a bit. I have not been able to accomplish this at all. Is it a situation where you must be hitting an opponent to raise it?

 

[Kaffei]

You tap B and it goes up. Tapping B also makes it last longer.

 

[MythTrainerInfinity]

Just wondering, how many frames of shield hitlag do the little hits of Mach Tornado have and how many frames are there before the last hit between hits?

 

[milesg2g]

My MK keeps improving. I've gotten to 1430 on the AiB ladder. I was only able to get to 1200 before w/ Ness. I think I got to 1300 once. But then the good people on the ladders started picking on me lol.

 

[Kaffei]

milesg2g, MK ditto me. I want practice

 

[Ragnar0k]

I watched some atomsk vs shadow dittos and shadow was raring a lot of his nairs. Why?

 

[theunabletable]

I haven't actually seen the matches so I could be wrong, but I imagine it's to get more damage out of his nair.

Here's a good way to test it yourself. Face the enemy and be right next to him, and nair, and he'll just get hit by one hit and only take 12% usually, and get sent flying immediately. Now try facing away, while still right next to him. It should hit twice for like 18%.

 

[milesg2g]

milesg2g, MK ditto me. I want practice

Sure I'd love to. uhh vistor message me your fc.

 

[Enzo]

hey guys ive been having trouble in tourneys with ICs and mirror mk matchup, can any1give me any good tips on these matchups, thanks

 

[-LzR-]

For ditto, try to get the other MK above you and uair juggle him. Also don't nado much, it's not very useful in the ditto, I find it to be a crappy move in that MU. Those 2 are big for this MU IMO.

 

[Toronto Joe]

I care to disagree with tornado being bad in the ditto,no move besides jab is bad, as Mk vs any char imo everything has a time and place sir

 

[IIIIRICK]

i dont like to tornado in the MK ditto, the risk to way to great for a minimal reward.

 

[Kaffei]

Sure I'd love to. uhh vistor message me your fc.

I'll get back to you on Friday since I can only play on Fridays

 

[Enzo]

thanks ill make sure to look out for that and try not to be above myself, i also struggle with IC's and honestly i feel stuck when they walking blizzard camp to bait to a grab, the ic in my region rarely messes up his grabs, an tips.?

 

[Kaffei]

vs IC be really patient. When you get an opening **** nana. Dair camping is really good just dont land like a *******

 

[milesg2g]

I'll get back to you on Friday since I can only play on Fridays

haha why's that? Also it can't be late on EST there's a party this weekend apparently lol

 

[Kaffei]

**** man. well i guess next week then lol

 

[theunabletable]

About tornado in the ditto: It has really good uses, though. You don't want to approach with it, but it can be really good for recovery. Like if you're recovering, and the opponent is staying low to SL you, you can tornado to the stage, and if he SLs he'll just go right into the nado.

Or if the opponent is recovering low, you can tornado at the ledge, and if he tried to SL, he'll get hit by it.

One thing you have to learn in the ditto is to recovery well. Good MKs can put so much ****ing damage on you if you're predictable with your recovery.

DC is good for recovery in the ditto. Like if you're diagonally down and away from the ledge (but semi close to it), you can jump and uair until there's an opening, and then DC onto the ledge. If you space it correctly, it's ridiculously safe; because it'll auto snap the ledge, and if he grabs the ledge, you'll go past the ledge if you space it right and land on the stage. It works really well for recovery.

 

[Exdeath]

I watched some atomsk vs shadow dittos and shadow was raring a lot of his nairs. Why?

It's much easier to get both hits of Nair if it's hitting behind.

 

[IIIIRICK]

vs IC you just have to separate them, i know the way i put that it makes it sound easy but its not at all. It takes a lot of practice and patience. When separated go for nana and try and gimp her. Keep in mind that in some situations its better to go for popo instead, you have to have a feel for it.

dair camping is good and if you EVER tornado and you miss or they shield or if you dont hit them in any way then land a platform, IC uair is good BUT its better then getting grabbed.

 

[Kaffei]

About tornado in the ditto: It has really good uses, though. You don't want to approach with it, but it can be really good for recovery. Like if you're recovering, and the opponent is staying low to SL you, you can tornado to the stage, and if he SLs he'll just go right into the nado.

Or if the opponent is recovering low, you can tornado at the ledge, and if he tried to SL, he'll get hit by it.

One thing you have to learn in the ditto is to recovery well. Good MKs can put so much ****ing damage on you if you're predictable with your recovery.

DC is good for recovery in the ditto. Like if you're diagonally down and away from the ledge (but semi close to it), you can jump and uair until there's an opening, and then DC onto the ledge. If you space it correctly, it's ridiculously safe; because it'll auto snap the ledge, and if he grabs the ledge, you'll go past the ledge if you space it right and land on the stage. It works really well for recovery.

SL can actually beat Nado, you need to hit the nado with the beginning frames of SL (the huge hit bubbles)
other than that it's really safe

 

[theunabletable]

Yeah if you aim nado high, I mean, it's really safe.

Oh and one little thing (there's a ****load of little things in the ditto... I played M2K in friendlies for a good hour at bio, and the amount of tricksies he has in this matchup is ****ing ******** lol), if the other MK begins to glide at you, if you tornado, he has like no options if you do it right.

 

[-LzR-]

I haven't found a reliable guide on planking. I want to learn to do it well, it might save my *** some day.
Help appreciated.

 

[Kaffei]

Yeah if you aim nado high, I mean, it's really safe.

Oh and one little thing (there's a ****load of little things in the ditto... I played M2K in friendlies for a good hour at bio, and the amount of tricksies he has in this matchup is ****ing ******** lol), if the other MK begins to glide at you, if you tornado, he has like no options if you do it right.

yeah this is true lmao. I just watch 5 billion dittos of M2K and i learn soo much