Meta Knight Q&A Thread

[Budget Player Cadet_]

So I found that by buffering uair, I could at lower procents hit falco's grab armor with uair (doing at least some damage) and at higher %s into the CG, actually knock him out of it (and potentially defend against dair). Does this work, or did my opponent do it wrong?

 

[Exdeath]

So I found that by buffering uair, I could at lower procents hit falco's grab armor with uair (doing at least some damage) and at higher %s into the CG, actually knock him out of it (and potentially defend against dair). Does this work, or did my opponent do it wrong?

MK shouldn't be able to escape the chain grab if it's being buffered.

 

[Budget Player Cadet_]

Ok. It was wifi, so I'll take "my opponent was messing up" as a reasonable reason that worked.

 

[Player-4]

Lol wif i

 

[Budget Player Cadet_]

So MK supposedly really ****ing destroys ROB. How does that mu work.

 

[Player-4]

Tornado all dai

 

[Kaffei]

Just spam Tornado. His shield sucks.

 

[theunabletable]

Tornado is good in the matchup, but watch out for stuff like nair.

Basically play safe and don't fall for dumb ****.

 

[Kaffei]

like spot dodge to dsmash lololol

 

[RMelee]

Hello again Smashboards! Recently i've been having trouble with the D3 and G&W MUs.

Vs. D3: 1) what stages besides FD should i ban on stage strike and CP?
2) how should i approach D3 in general?
3) what do i do out of D3's throws?(i mean what DI and air dodge or attacks)

Vs. Dubs: 1) what are some SAFE ways to space G Dubs?
2) How do i edgeguard him when he is: high above stage?
level with stage?
below the stage?
3) who has a better MU vs Dubs; Meta or Marth?

I'd appreciate any advice you can give me on these MUs. =)

 

[WindMajor]

Can someone please explain to me why this works?

http://youtu.be/tsoi2zTHm4o

 

[ぱみゅ]

Can someone please explain to me why this works?

http://youtu.be/tsoi2zTHm4o

lolwut

I'm pretty sure MK just got unlucky and got hit by Pit's arrow while Pikachu didn't.

 

[Player-4]

Can someone please explain to me why this works?

http://youtu.be/tsoi2zTHm4o

Me and Jerm just watched this, he said it's from Pit's arrow loop. I concur.

 

[WindMajor]

O_O Didn't even notice. I thought it had something to do with the 4% that Ike's jab gave MK.

 

[Budget Player Cadet_]

Vs. Dubs: 1) what are some SAFE ways to space G Dubs?
3) who has a better MU vs Dubs; Meta or Marth?

Can't help much with D3, but with Gdubs, you want to stay grounded as much as possible. If he's throwing out random bairs (a lot of G&Ws do this), punish with upB OOS. Try to ftilt him if he's zoning you on the ground. Basically stay grounded a lot and just bait and punish his every move. If he starts pulling out chef, tornado the *******. Any committing aerial approach? UpBOOS. Dairing you? Get out of the way and punish the landing lag. Just zone the **** out of the *******.
MK is G&W's hardest MU.

 

[theunabletable]

Ftilt is the G&W matchup

 

[Budget Player Cadet_]

I actually wanted to ask about that-how does that work, exactly? Any good MK/Gdubs vids?

EDIT: How the hell do I stop pit from repeatedly going under the stage on SV?

 

[Player-4]

Can't help much with D3, but with Gdubs, you want to stay grounded as much as possible. If he's throwing out random bairs (a lot of G&Ws do this), punish with upB OOS. Try to ftilt him if he's zoning you on the ground. Basically stay grounded a lot and just bait and punish his every move. If he starts pulling out chef, tornado the *******. Any committing aerial approach? UpBOOS. Dairing you? Get out of the way and punish the landing lag. Just zone the **** out of the *******.
MK is G&W's hardest MU.

I think Snake and Marth are harder for GW, and also don't Nado the **** outta GW. Good ones will Up-B out of it and put you in a free fall, then you either get Smashed or possibly 9'd. Tornado should actually be used sparingly. Never approach with it either, because it can also be Uair'd and you're in a free fall again.

 

[Budget Player Cadet_]

I think Snake and Marth are harder for GW, and also don't Nado the **** outta GW. Good ones will Up-B out of it and put you in a free fall, then you either get Smashed or possibly 9'd. Tornado should actually be used sparingly. Never approach with it either, because it can also be Uair'd and you're in a free fall again.

I mean against chef. What beats it better?

 

[Exdeath]

Can't help much with D3, but with Gdubs, you want to stay grounded as much as possible. If he's throwing out random bairs (a lot of G&Ws do this), punish with upB OOS. Try to ftilt him if he's zoning you on the ground. Basically stay grounded a lot and just bait and punish his every move. If he starts pulling out chef, tornado the *******. Any committing aerial approach? UpBOOS. Dairing you? Get out of the way and punish the landing lag. Just zone the **** out of the *******.
MK is G&W's hardest MU.

That is pretty bland advice and I doubt that you understand what you're talking about. Up-B OoS is good, but it isn't always the best option. Nair, grabs, Fsmash, etc. are all better options that are available in the situations that you mentioned. Tornado should be used very sparingly, as G&W can punish it on hit at most percents. If G&W uses B, it should be a free hit for MK unless MK is too far away (which he shouldn't be).

 

[Player-4]

I mean against chef. What beats it better?

I'd just PS it and ftilt

 

[C.J.]

Hello again Smashboards! Recently i've been having trouble with the D3 and G&W MUs.

Vs. D3: 1) what stages besides FD should i ban on stage strike and CP?
2) how should i approach D3 in general?
3) what do i do out of D3's throws?(i mean what DI and air dodge or attacks)

Vs. Dubs: 1) what are some SAFE ways to space G Dubs?
2) How do i edgeguard him when he is: high above stage?
level with stage?
below the stage?
3) who has a better MU vs Dubs; Meta or Marth?

I'd appreciate any advice you can give me on these MUs. =)

vs DDD:
http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=-8bVjiJEaxM&feature=related
Essentially just get him in the air and either tornado or grab his landing and hit him out of his upB.

vs G&W:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzexdyBAIBQ
He really plays the MU perfectly. Just be careful of the fact G&W's dair hits twice. As for Marth or MK beating him worse, they're about the same, imo.

 

[KassandraNova]

Ftilt is the G&W matchup

Don't forget to uptilt the key too! :X

thats the.."key" to winning the match up. xD

 

[theunabletable]

I actually wanted to ask about that-how does that work, exactly? Any good MK/Gdubs vids?

Havok vs UTD Zac from ActiveGamers is good. He plays the matchup really well; that's mostly where I learned it.

 

[ぱみゅ]

Don't forget to uptilt the key too! :X

thats the.."key" to winning the match up. xD

I thought GW's Dair beats MK's utilt range... but w/e
Anyways, they forgot mention our downtilt, which is **** at low %s

 

[Player-4]

Nope, our Utilt beat GWs Dair.

 

[milesg2g]

Hi guys, I'm new to these boards and MK.

I came here because I thought this would be a good place to clear some confusion up about the character in a whole so, be nice lol.


Also, Player4. You're a Ness main just like me. I need you're help in this the most. lol

 

[Player-4]

Hi guys, I'm new to these boards and MK.

I came here because I thought this would be a good place to clear some confusion up about the character in a whole so, be nice lol.


Also, Player4. You're a Ness main just like me. I need you're help in this the most. lol

I main MK, second Ness

But I'll help you

 

[milesg2g]

I main MK, second Ness

But I'll help you

Yeah I'm afraid that might happen to me.
Help me out men. lol


I have a pretty decent MK. But there's still so much I don't know about him.

 

[FD96]

Yeah I'm afraid that might happen to me.
Help me out men. lol


I have a pretty decent MK. But there's still so much I don't know about him.

What don't you know about him?

 

[Player-4]

Yeah I'm afraid that might happen to me.
Help me out men. lol


I have a pretty decent MK. But there's still so much I don't know about him.

Just ask away, there are better people on here better than me that can help you too

 

[Exdeath]

What don't you know about him?

He wouldn't need to ask if he already knew.

What he does know is the question that should be asked.

 

[FD96]

He wouldn't need to ask if he already knew.

What he does know is the question that should be asked.

Ah, you are correct.

 

[milesg2g]

Which 1 of his aerials has the most priority and will punish over anther MK?

 

[Budget Player Cadet_]

All of MK's aerials have transcendent priority; in other words, they can't clash. You want the aerial with the most range, but this is tricky because most of them have similar range. Dair and fair are usually good choices.

 

[milesg2g]

All of MK's aerials have transcendent priority; in other words, they can't clash. You want the aerial with the most range, but this is tricky because most of them have similar range. Dair and fair are usually good choices.

Thanks.

Also I need help w/ the Falco CG
which way do I DI?

 

[Dru2]

^Um...i would say just don't get grabbed, cuz i really can't find anyway to escape it. If u do get grabbed, i sometimes get out with a quick Dair.

Other than that, just try not to get grabbed :/

 

[Budget Player Cadet_]

Uair is faster and more likely to get you out if he ****s up. If he does it correctly, there is no quick escape, but up and towards falco has worked for me around 30-50.

 

[Player-4]

Which 1 of his aerials has the most priority and will punish over anther MK?

Never be above MK, and if you're underneath just Uair the **** outta him. Fair is good for approach as well.

Thanks.

Also I need help w/ the Falco CG
which way do I DI?

Like people have said, if done right you can't get out. Best thing to do is DI away and Uair in case he messes up.

 

[milesg2g]

Which SDI away from him w/ uair?