Pluvia
Hates Semicolons<br>;
Also technically it's not breaking their lore if you read the codex.
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Mass Effect series discussion
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Archangel
Smash Hero
Yesterday. I was Disconnected before the final wave so many goddamn times....(doesn't have a slow connection) 
R.I.P. To my remote control. You were so good to me over the years but...you were just in the wrong place at the wrong time...you will be missed.
R.I.P. To my remote control. You were so good to me over the years but...you were just in the wrong place at the wrong time...you will be missed.
Pikaville
Pikaville returns 10 years later.
I felt the same way about one of my xbox controllers.
smashbot226
Smash Master
http://pastebin.com/znYraLnF
http://www.reddit.com/r/masseffect/comments/rcl7e/more_possible_leaked_information/
I have no clue if this is news or not. But hey, the multiplayer DLC leak wasn't really talked-about, so maybe this got swept under the rug as well.
itt: Mass Effect 3 DLC/Mass Effect 4 information
http://www.reddit.com/r/masseffect/comments/rcl7e/more_possible_leaked_information/
I have no clue if this is news or not. But hey, the multiplayer DLC leak wasn't really talked-about, so maybe this got swept under the rug as well.
itt: Mass Effect 3 DLC/Mass Effect 4 information
Master Xanthan
Smash Champion
http://blog.bioware.com/2012/04/02/operation-raptor-update/
So the latest operation was a success, so everyone gets a victory pack on wendnesday (idk what time exactly). Anyone that promoted 2 characters during the weekend that just ended should get a commendation pack on wednesday as well. I can't wait to see what N7 weapon I get this time (last time I got N7 Valiant, too good).
So the latest operation was a success, so everyone gets a victory pack on wendnesday (idk what time exactly). Anyone that promoted 2 characters during the weekend that just ended should get a commendation pack on wednesday as well. I can't wait to see what N7 weapon I get this time (last time I got N7 Valiant, too good).
Pluvia
Hates Semicolons<br>;
The reason why it's not causing waves over the fandom is because it was quickly discovered to be an elaborate troll hoax.
The source is from 4chan.
smashbot226
Smash Master
Seemed like more of a "get better soon" letter to BioWare and at this rate, I would totally believe any future plans of theirs to get leaked THIS early. I'm also aware Mass Effect 3's next DLC is probably going to involve retaking Omega since there was information regarding an Omega-related mission in the leaked files. Unfortunately, we never got to see this mission. Would've been kind cool, though. It's not from 4chan, however. Not specifically, anyway. It was indeed copypasted there, as with all other leaks, and given BioWare's massive propensity for retcons, I could believe most of the stuff on here.
If only because a troll can come up with a better story than BioWare. Hell, it happened with Dragon Age 2.
Pluvia
Hates Semicolons<br>;
Just say Mass Shift out loud.
That should've been your first clue that things are a bit off.
That should've been your first clue that things are a bit off.
smashbot226
Smash Master
Saying Dragon Age 2 out loud after playing it made me cringe to think that it's supposed to be a sequel, so I suppose I see your point.
Master Xanthan
Smash Champion
I didn't think Dragon Age 2's story was that bad, they just needed more unique environments and have more of your choices matter from Dragon Age Origins.
LivewiresXe
Smash Hero
It sounds like a cousin of Machoke, just Psychic instead of Fighting.
Archangel
Smash Hero
So....news about the ending has set fire to the Bioware forums again. Nothing officially official has come out yet only some semi-official statements without much have been release. However, It looks like right now future DLC will "Address" the endings. Many have taken it to mean they will have some kind of explanation for the bad endings. No indoc. theory DLC or anything of the sort. In response to that a few ME fans with a decent amount of money are preparing to actually move forward with a Case against Bioware and EA....this could get so interesting 
. *gets popcorn*
. *gets popcorn*
theeboredone
Smash Legend
Eh, I'm still gonna wait to see what the DLC is about before forming an opinion.
Archangel
Smash Hero
I think most people who are calm will. However the pre-riot party is already being set up most places.
smashbot226
Smash Master
I know for a fact Leliana appears in Dragon Age 2 even if she's dead. I THINK it happens with Zevran as well but I'm not too sure about that. Still, while I can respect your opinion, there's a point in Act 2/3 where the story just completely started sh*tt*ing all over the place. The worst offender is easily Ander's forced role as a... well, you know... and the horribly written finale after that.
Pluvia
Hates Semicolons<br>;
Any claim they make like that isn't official isn't grounds to do anything. It's like how DVD comentaries have disclaimers saying "Nothing they say reflects our companies opinions".So....news about the ending has set fire to the Bioware forums again. Nothing officially official has come out yet only some semi-official statements without much have been release. However, It looks like right now future DLC will "Address" the endings. Many have taken it to mean they will have some kind of explanation for the bad endings. No indoc. theory DLC or anything of the sort. In response to that a few ME fans with a decent amount of money are preparing to actually move forward with a Case against Bioware and EA....this could get so interesting
-Snip-
If it was grounds to sue, Peter Molyneux would've been sued long ago. Also you have to watch the Retake movement, they've been quoting articles out of context to try and make Bioware look bad. It's great to say one company is lying, but if you yourself are lying, you have no legs to stand on.
On a different note I had a nightmare that the Reapers were attacking my town last night.
Master Xanthan
Smash Champion
As much as I would like Bioware to make new endings, taking them to court over it seems wrong. However, if there is on-disc dlc then I would definitely say take them to court (from Ashes doesn't count).
Pluvia
Hates Semicolons<br>;
I think there's already an answer for that:
http://kotaku.com/5898459/capcom-is-proud-to-charge-you-extra-for-game-content-thats-on-the-disc-you-already-paid-for
Pretty much, looks like there's nothing people can do about disc locked content seeing how that Capcom thing went.
Archangel
Smash Hero
Hmmmmmmmm I think I posted some of this before but other stuff I never saw. It's like...it's hard to read.Interview with Casey Hudson (Director) 4/28/11
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2011/04/28/casey-hudson-interview-mass-effect-3.aspx
“For people who are invested in these characters and the back-story of the universe and everything, all of these things come to a resolution in Mass Effect 3. And they are resolved in a way that's very different based on what you would do in those situations.”
Mike Gamble (Associate Producer) 8/24/11
http://www.nowgamer.com/news/1027650/mass_effect_3_reapers_can_win_bioware.html
Mass Effect 3 will shake up the player's moral choices more than ever before, even going so far as allowing the Reapers to win the battle for Earth, according to BioWare's community representative Mike Gamble.
Edit: According to the user Our_Last_Scene, I am deceitful and nothing I say should be trusted because I was not aware that after this particular article was released that Mike Gamble posted a correction on Twitter. I am not sure how me being unaware of his statement (since I don't use Twitter) makes me deceitful, but I have edited this to include the following...
twitter.com/#!/GambleMike/status/106895746313363457
"wow, there are a lot of out of context quotes floating around the net today! yep, the reapers can win. its called critical mission failure
Interview with Casey Hudson (Director) 1/10/12
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/featu...fdsafdhudson-interviewae.aspx?PostPageIndex=2
Interviewer: [Regarding the numerous possible endings of Mass Effect 2] “Is that same type of complexity built into the ending of Mass Effect 3?”
Hudson: “Yeah, and I’d say much more so, because we have the ability to build the endings out in a way that we don’t have to worry about eventually tying them back together somewhere. This story arc is coming to an end with this game. That means the endings can be a lot more different. At this point we’re taking into account so many decisions that you’ve made as a player and reflecting a lot of that stuff. It’s not even in any way like the traditional game endings, where you can say how many endings there are or whether you got ending A, B, or C.....The endings have a lot more sophistication and variety in them.”
“We have a rule in our franchise that there is no canon. You as a player decide what your story is.”
Interview with Mike Gamble (Associate Producer) 2/2/12
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...s-effect-3-ending-will-make-some-people-angry
“Every decision you've made will impact how things go. The player's also the architect of what happens."
Whether you're happy or angry at the ending, know this: it is an ending.
BioWare will not do a "Lost" and leave fans with more questions than
answers after finishing the game, Gamble promised.
“You'll get answers to everything. That was one of the key things. Regardless of how we did everything, we had to say, yes, we're going to provide some answers to these people.”
“Because a lot of these plot threads are concluding and because it's being brought to a finale, since you were a part of architecting how they got to how they were, you will definitely sense how they close was because of the decisions you made and because of the decisions you didn't make”
Mike Gamble (Associate Producer) 2/2/12
http://www.nowgamer.com/features/12...per_interview_shepard_coop_story_details.html
"Of course you don’t have to play multiplayer, you can choose to play all the side-quests in single-player and do all that stuff you’ll still get all the same endings and same information, it’s just a totally different way of playing"
Interview with Mike Gamble (Associate Producer) 2/6/12
http://www.computerandvideogames.co...rought-back-a-lot-of-what-was-missing-in-me2/
“And, to be honest, you [the fans] are crafting your Mass Effect story as much as we are anyway.”
Post-Gold
Official Mass Effect Website (Still there)
http://masseffect.com/about/story/
“Experience the beginning, middle, and end of an emotional story unlike any other, where the decisions you make completely shape your experience and outcome.”
Casey Hudson (Director) 2/17/12
http://www.computerandvideogames.co...-go-on-holiday-our-dlc-is-really-good/?page=2
“There is a huge set of consequences that start stacking up as you approach the end-game. And even in terms of the ending itself, it continues to break down to some very large decisions. So it's not like a classic game ending where everything is linear and you make a choice between a few things - it really does layer in many, many different choices, up to the final moments, where it's going to be different for everyone who plays it.”
Interview with Mike Gamble (Associate Producer) 2/23/12
http://www.360magazine.co.uk/interview/mass-effect-3-has-many-different-endings/
“There are many different endings. We wouldn’t do it any other way. How could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets? But I can’t say any more than that…”
Interview with Mac Walters (Lead Writer) 2/28/12
http://popwatch.ew.com/2012/02/28/mass-effect-3-mac-walters/
“[The presence of the Rachni] has huge consequences in Mass Effect 3. Even just in the final battle with the Reapers.”
Interview with Casey Hudson (Director) 3/2/12
http://venturebeat.com/2012/03/02/c...t-3-with-the-sometimes-cranky-fans-interview/
“Fans want to make sure that they see things resolved, they want to get some closure, a great ending. I think they’re going to get that.”
“Mass Effect 3 is all about answering all the biggest questions in the lore, learning about the mysteries and the Protheans and the Reapers, being able to decide for yourself how all of these things come to an end.”
Interviewer: “So are you guys the creators or the stewards of the franchise?”
Hudson: “Um… You know, at this point, I think we’re co-creators with the fans. We use a lot of feedback.”
Interview with Mac Walters (Lead Writer) 3/5/12
http://business.financialpost.com/2...on-how-the-game-tries-to-reach-all-audiences/
“I’m always leery of saying there are 'optimal' endings, because I think one of the things we do try to do is make different endings that are optimal for different people”
Interview with Mac Walters (Lead Writer) 3/7/12
Issue 108 of 360Gamer (Hardcopy only, not available online)
When asked about the science of the game being plausible
"From very early on we wanted the science of the universe to be plausible. Obviously it's set in the future so you have to make some leaps of faith but we didn't want it to be just magic in space."
Casey Hudson (Director) 3/8/12
http://gamescatalyst.com/2012/03/casey-hudson-kinect-the-future-of-interactive-stories/
“The whole idea of Mass Effect3 is resolving all of the biggest questions, about the Protheons and the Reapers, and being in the driver's seat to end the galaxy and all of these big plot lines, to decide what civilizations are going to live or die: All of these things are answered in Mass Effect 3.”
Pluvia
Hates Semicolons<br>;
Nice he updated it, wonder how much of his other quotes are wrong eh.
Master Xanthan
Smash Champion
Well that's unfortunate, I guess I'll have to start voting with my wallet then......its so difficult to to though since Mass Effect series dlc is usually so good.
smashbot226
Smash Master
Right, because it's not like he won't defend himself from blatantly obvious PR stunts. I'd request others to stop letting him get away from Hudson-tier "fibs" but I doubt it.
That bad ending tripe still gets me laughing.
especially after how many of you DEFENDED THE STATEMENT. Worse than the Social Forums sometimes, and yes I'm including that horrific Tali's sweat thread.
Pluvia
Hates Semicolons<br>;
The guy that posted all that links has shown himself to be a liar, or at least not accurate on his quotes and therefore a terrible source of information. Mike Gamble clarified himself a few hours later, or the next day, it's just the Retake movement don't want you to know these things.
Like I said, there's no point calling other people liars if you yourself are lying. That thread got shook up when they realised that not everything in the OP is necessarily true.
Like I said, there's no point calling other people liars if you yourself are lying. That thread got shook up when they realised that not everything in the OP is necessarily true.
smashbot226
Smash Master
Alright, so a quote by Mike Gamble has been brought into question. A single quote, outside of a bunch of blatant PR spins.
You wouldn't happen to be related to the Metacritic guy, would you?
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I've said it once, and I'll say it again.
He's Indoctrinated.
There's no use arguing.
smashbot226
Smash Master
Pluvia
Hates Semicolons<br>;
The main problem is the OP was shown to be liar (or a bad journalist, the what's irrelevant), and the only way he'll correct himself is if he's called out on it?
Everything has been thrown into question in that OP now, and Archangel, because they were puposely throwing around innacurate information making the claim that Bioware was lying when they weren't. How can we trust them with the rest of that information?
In other words, if you want to know if Bioware lied, research yourself, because you can't trust the OP or Archangel.
smashbot226
Smash Master
There's actually an entire thread on the BioWare Social Forums that has quotes and links from the source interview. I'll be sure to post it somewhere in this thread once I get a hold of it.
Pre-Post Edit: Oh, here it is.
http://social.bioware.com/forum/Mas...-BioWare-on-false-advertising-10473356-1.html
So no, this is not a case of bad journalism or lying or whatever bullspit you might believe. No, turns out BioWare- and to an extent, EA- are capable of errors that come back to bite them in the arse.
Pluvia
Hates Semicolons<br>;
That's the OP I'm talking about.
How can you trust him when he was shown to be lying to deceive you into believing him? Or if you don't think he was lying, how can you trust him now that you know not everything he has linked to could be true?
How can you trust him when he was shown to be lying to deceive you into believing him? Or if you don't think he was lying, how can you trust him now that you know not everything he has linked to could be true?
smashbot226
Smash Master
Because of the fact that I gave a damn and read/listened through the sources. Did you do the same, or did you listen to Papa Gamble in the hopes that BioWare wasn't digging their own graves?
Pluvia
Hates Semicolons<br>;
But if you read through sources why did you not correct the OP when you discovered he was wrong, and was actually trying to deceive people into believing Bioware were lying when they weren't?
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Archangel
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Pluvia
Hates Semicolons<br>;
Actually respond constructively. Don't throw a hissy fit now you've been caught out.
smashbot226
Smash Master
Because most of the stuff quoted was verbatim. I suppose they'd have to be if they were quoted. In relation, how do you know this stuff is wrong? I mean sure, you could simply listen to folks like Mike or Casey and assume they're out of context but then you'd be a
drone
Archangel
Smash Hero
I've been caught how? Dude....READ! Find out for yourself. Or do you lose your ability to read when your eyes go all blue and ****?
Pluvia
Hates Semicolons<br>;
Because, as the OP has now updated with his mistake after he was called out on it, it was wrong. He posted a link, a quote from a magazine from an interview with Mike Gamble claiming that there was a "Reapers win" scenario, and threw this around like it was another lie from Bioware. The thing he missed out was Gamble's clarification on it, which Gamble posted a few hours later (or the next day) which clarified the "Reapers win" scenario is just the game over screen.
In other words, the OP claimed that Bioware were lying, when they weren't. Whether or not that was a mistake is irrelevant, as it undermines everything in that post, as you can't trust that information to be accurate. You'll have to do your own research to verify those claims.
So Bioware could be lying, it's just that you can't trust that OP or Archangel as a good source on information, as even the OP had to admit that not everything he said was accurate, and it's better to do your own research.
Archangel
Smash Hero
......You can't be serious...
The fact is what he found was not a lie. He missed the update or "clarification" yes. But....who gives a ****. He's not the shadow broker now is he? Besides if you actually go through and "Do your own research" You'll find out exactly how true it is.
but of course you won't...you can't. Do you know why? Because you are not in control of your own actions currently. Why do you think everything you say makes no goddamn sense? I'll give you a hint.
Pluvia
Hates Semicolons<br>;
So in other words, do your own research to find out how true it is because the OP, and by extension you for throwing it around like him, have previously been shown to be inaccurate?
Master Xanthan
Smash Champion
So anyway..............who's gonna be playing this weekend?