Mass Effect series discussion

[sakuraZaKi]

Hey PLuvia, What do you have for Fitness, Alliance Training, and WUB WUB WUB on HUman Vanguard?

I wish I could respec right now...

Anyway, I've been playing my Male Human Vanguard this whole time but I get all the Appearance stuff (lights/patterns) for the female. Wth. Nothing for the male.

 

[LivewiresXe]

Hey PLuvia, What do you have for Fitness, Alliance Training, and WUB WUB WUB on HUman Vanguard?

I wish I could respec right now...

Anyway, I've been playing my Male Human Vanguard this whole time but I get all the Appearance stuff (lights/patterns) for the female. Wth. Nothing for the male.

If it helps Zaki, my level 18 Human M Vanguard only has 1 point in Shockwave, 6 points in Charge and Nova, and....I think 5 in one of Fitness/Alliance Training, wiht 4 in the other.

 

[sakuraZaKi]

Is MP offline for you guys? Or is it just PC?

 

[Master Xanthan]

I finally got the Asari Adept, now the only character I need now is the Krogan Soldier.

 

[LivewiresXe]

Let's see....I need the Asari Adept, and both sets of Turian and Krogan classes. Oh, and the Salarian Infiltrator.

 

[Archangel]

HA! I got the Krogan Soldier!

 

[sakuraZaKi]

If it helps Zaki, my level 18 Human M Vanguard only has 1 point in Shockwave, 6 points in Charge and Nova, and....I think 5 in one of Fitness/Alliance Training, wiht 4 in the other.

I'm guessing that you'll be aiming for that 20% weapon weight reduction from Alliance Training?

 

[LivewiresXe]

I'm guessing that you'll be aiming for that 20% weapon weight reduction from Alliance Training?

Yeah. The Graal and Geth Shotgun are hella heavy.

 

[Pluvia]

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So I just saw the ways Mordin and Samara's story arcs can end, I am shocked, I feel terrible just watching these I don't know how I'd feel choosing them:

[collapse= Spoilers]Mordin
Samara (watch until the end of the video)[/collapse]

 

[LivewiresXe]

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Yeah....Samara's makes you SUCH a douchebag, and Mordin's leads to Wrex dying too. I can't think of why ANYBODY would possibly do those outcomes other than to see if they're there.

 

[sakuraZaKi]

Might want to fix that, dude...

 

[LivewiresXe]

Might want to fix that, dude...

Thanks. Late night posting be the death of me so sleep I go.

 

[Grey Belnades]

I felt bad watching that. I don't think I could ever do a Renegade playthrough.

 

[sakuraZaKi]

Renegade Shep was generally a badass. I dunno why, but in ME3,

Spoiler

he's a complete ****

.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_i9fiqjhSs&feature=related

With all that awesome calibrating, just imagine if Garrus was the one fixing up the Crucible, lol.

 

[LivewiresXe]

There's a good description of Renegade Shepard I saw a bit ago, it said:

Mass Effect 1: An anti-hero who doesn't give a ---- what the council thinks
Mass Effect 2: A bad-@$$ who doesn't give a ---- in general
Mass Effect 3:

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A sociopath who's out to kill everyone including his friends

 

[Master Xanthan]

There's a good description of Renegade Shepard I saw a bit ago, it said:

Mass Effect 1: An anti-hero who doesn't give a ---- what the council thinks
Mass Effect 2: A bad-@$$ who doesn't give a ---- in general
Mass Effect 3:

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A sociopath who's out to kill everyone including his friends

Renegade is basically the equivalent to Dark Side in Kotor, so what did you expect?

 

[Pluvia]

Renegade Shep was generally a badass. I dunno why, but in ME3,

Spoiler

he's a complete ****

.

Whaaaaat. How on earth is commiting genocide by drowning a creature, that has just begged for it's life, in acid considered badass?

 

[sakuraZaKi]

generally, man.

Though the level of that may vary from person to person.

My Obama 'Renegade' Shepard is pretty badass.

 

[Pikaville]

Pfffffttttt.

Renegade Shepard doesn't take **** off anyone.

He just gets the job done.

One bullet at a time.

 

[Pluvia]

I could never be a canon renegade Shepard, the emotional distress it would cause me. Heck I couldn't even commit genocide in the 1st one I'd never be able to do any of the things he does in the 3rd.

My all female playthrough Shepard on the other hand is mostly renegade, but she's not a **** for no reason, I just alternate between renegade or paragon depending on how the situation calls for it with her.

 

[Pikaville]

Yeah my Sheapards solution to everything is shoot it.

Being renegade is so much fun though.

Plus you still get to win the game!

Like that middle ending choice that is apparently "hardest" to get.

I had it as a choice and I literally killed everyone.

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Ashley, Kaiden, Wrex, Thane, Legion, Mordin, Miranda, Jack, Udina, the original counsil amongst so many others, all perished either at Shepards hands or as a result of his actions.

But true to his past and his character, these hefty losses were key and sometimes pivotal moments in his final victory.

 

[Archangel]

I keep getting kicked off the Goddamn Multiplayer on the 10th ****ING WAVE!!!!!

GODDAMN IT!

 

[Master Xanthan]

I could never be a canon renegade Shepard, the emotional distress it would cause me. Heck I couldn't even commit genocide in the 1st one I'd never be able to do any of the things he does in the 3rd.

My all female playthrough Shepard on the other hand is mostly renegade, but she's not a **** for no reason, I just alternate between renegade or paragon depending on how the situation calls for it with her.

There's a canon for the mass effect games? When I did renegade I did some paragon as well I'll admit, but mostly renegade.

 

[Lore]

Just beat the suicide mission. Holy ****.

I also had no casualties somehow, and I had max paragon with a bit above a quarter renegade.

 

[LivewiresXe]

There's a canon for the mass effect games? When I did renegade I did some paragon as well I'll admit, but mostly renegade.

I thought the only real canon was that they implied Liara should be the series LI?

 

[Pluvia]

Canon as what Shep you consider to be your canon Shep, it's usually your original playthrough for most people, like how Aidan's canon Shep is renegade.

Hell, he even sold Legion to Cerberus first time round. That's how renegade he is.

 

[LivewiresXe]

Canon as what Shep you consider to be your canon Shep, it's usually your original playthrough for most people, like how Aidan's canon Shep is renegade.

Hell, he even sold Legion to Cerberus first time round. That's how renegade he is.

Oh, I'm sorry, I thought you said "stupid".

 

[mood4food77]

level 20 engineer and finally got the turian soldier, now i have all the species, (it's kind of funny that i got all the species on the far side of each class)

if the salarian engineer is this good, i can't wait to play as the salarian infiltrator, cause seriously, energy drain with a sniper equipped is stupid

 

[Archangel]

Energy drain is so rigged. Against Geth and Humans especially. Reapers not so much.

 

[sakuraZaKi]

So, from a Paragon/middle/Renegade viewpoint,

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which do each of the 3 ending choices pertain to?

 

[mood4food77]

Spoiler

the middle choice is the middle, i'm not too sure on the other 2 choices, i would assume destroy is paragon but the explosions are renegade color and same for the control but vice versa

so, i started my insanity in ME3, just using my adept shepard, you can get level 10 weapons in 1 player mode, it seems though it has to be on your second run through

also, the widow is so much fun to use, i have my adept shepard with energy drain and a level 8 widow, watch out world, cause shepard is pissed off

 

[LivewiresXe]

Spoiler

I was always of the mindset that Vent Kid was just messing with you by trying to make you think the Renegade choice was Paragon and vice-versa.

 

[Pluvia]

Spoiler

They're not anything, they're just choices

 

[LivewiresXe]

Spoiler

Please, EVERYTHING in Mass Effect is Paragon or Renegade.

 

[Master Xanthan]

Spoiler

I have doubts that the "control the reapers" ending is actually paragon. The galaxy is better off with them dead, even if it means sacrificing the Geth and Edi.

 

[mood4food77]

does anyone wanna play, i hate playing with incompetent people online

 

[Pluvia]

Multiplayer changes:

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March 27, 2012
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Falcon Assault Rifle
- Damage increased from [215.0-268.8] to [279.2-349.0]

Javelin Sniper Rifle
- Damage increased from [795.0-993.7] to [1030.5-1288.1]
- Encumbrance increased from [2.5-2.0] to [3.0-2.4]
- Max spare ammo decreased from [9-19] to [5-15]

Wraith Shotgun
- Damage increased from [83.1-103.9] to [89.5-111.9]

Paladin Heavy Pistol
- Damage increased from [350.9-438.7] to [389.9-487.4]
- Encumbrance increased from [1.0-0.5] to [1.5-0.9]

Talon Heavy Pistol
- Damage increased from [72.1-90.1] to [86.5-108.1]

Geth Assault Rifle
- Encumbrance decreased from [1.5-0.9] to [1.0-0.5]

Lift Grenade Power
- Increased base damage from 450 to 500

 

[O D I N]

So wait, they made the Talon MORE powerful?

I'm VERY okay with this. I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE the Talon with my Drell Vanguard. It's practically made for him.

I like that the Javelin got a damage increase. Not so happy about the other changes (then again, I don't use it much). :/

 

[Master Xanthan]

The Falcon was buffed after it was nerfed? I guess Bioware listened to the fans on that one. Not that it matters to me, I don't use it. Too bad they nerfed the Javelin's max spare ammo, though.

 

[Pikaville]

Oh, I'm sorry, I thought you said "stupid".

Eh what?

Shepard spent a whole game fighting Geth, why would he trust one now?

Mass Effect 3 also proved they can't REALLY be trusted.

Legion is just more scrap metal like all the other Geth I slaughtered.