Mass Effect series discussion

[Master Xanthan]

I don't remember that. You see a lot lies being spread by the fanatics going around, pretty much the only one that is true which Bioware backed up on is the answering everything to do with the Reapers, but as you can see from the Final Hours of Mass Effect they changed their mind on that one.

And I've not seen an article that supports the fans yet with their delusional overestimation of what can be achieved on 2 DVD's and an Xbox 360. A good thing is a lot more people are showing up aross the Internet to defend the endings I've noticed, and there's been threads about them from the fanatics asking other fanatics to drown them out.

Honestly the extreme lengths people go to in their whining is unbelievable. I guess I'll never understand why this is a "0/10 my mum got ***** I hope Bioware collapses I'm suing them Casey Hudson needs to be fired" situation.

Defending the endings? Oh great, still I'd say more fans hate the endings overall. With endings like that multiple playthroughs mean nothing since your choices don't matter, you just need high war assets for the same exact endings.

 

[Grey Belnades]

I think I'm gonna go for that Amazon refund thingamajig.

 

[Pluvia]

Defending the endings? Oh great, still I'd say more fans hate the endings overall. With endings like that multiple playthroughs mean nothing since your choices don't matter, you just need high war assets for the same exact endings.

Because a lot of the resolutions tie up before then. By the end of the game each of our games could be completely different.

If nothing that happened before the end mattered, despite how wildly different things could be by the end, then what was the point in playing the game? Like when I compare me and Aidan's games they're completely different. Yeah our last scene was the same, but everything we did to get to that point was different.

 

[Master Xanthan]

Because a lot of the resolutions tie up before then. By the end of the game each of our games could be completely different.

If nothing that happened before the end mattered, despite how wildly different things could be by the end, then what was the point in playing the game? Like when I compare me and Aidan's games they're completely different. Yeah our last scene was the same, but everything we did to get to that point was different.

Choices affected the endings of ME1 and ME2, I don't see any good reason why your choices don't affect the ending in ME3. Saying "oh well we did different stuff to get to that same exact ending" isn't good logic considering the nature of this game. You have "17 endings" yet all of them are very similar. You could be paragon or renegade and get the same exact ending, which is stupid.

 

[sakuraZaKi]

Blasto the Hanar Spectre does not have time for your solid waste excretions

 

[Pluvia]

Technically Soverign blows up and you get no choice in the matter in ME1. In ME2 you get 2 choices that produce a blue or red explosion. You can go paragon or renegade and get the exact same ending.

 

[mood4food77]

i swear female vanguard is the most obnoxious thing to play with in the game

 

[sakuraZaKi]

How? The voice? Lol.

 

[mood4food77]

this person just got 120,000 on silver while none of us reached 20,000 points, and her voice just makes it so much more obnoxious

she did nothing to help us, she would just charge and nova every .2 seconds

it wasn't even fun, if she let us help, the other 3 of us wouldn't be watching her complete every round

 

[Master Xanthan]

Technically Soverign blows up and you get no choice in the matter in ME1. In ME2 you get 2 choices that produce a blue or red explosion. You can go paragon or renegade and get the exact same ending.

You can choose to let the council live, which is pretty significant and makes a large impact on the ending of the first game.

@Mood4food, the vanguard did a lot to help you, the xp is shared so everything she killed is xp for you. The Vanguard is just a really powerful character and if you're good with the vanguard you'll always be raking in points. Not that it matters because the xp is shared, her xp is your xp. If you have an objective round the vanguard can hold everything back while you enable/disable devices. Also, nova and biotic charge is what the human vanguard does best, if you're not doing that as a human vanguard then you're not doing it right.

 

[Archangel]

Technically Soverign blows up and you get no choice in the matter in ME1. In ME2 you get 2 choices that produce a blue or red explosion. You can go paragon or renegade and get the exact same ending.

That is true but these are not final choices. Most were aware(specifically in the ME2 ending) that it was more of a choice not really an ending. In this case the difference in explosion color actually makes sense. Choice 1 is an actual explosion and choice 2 is a EMP. The choices not only make no sense in ME3 1 Choice is completely impossible.

Spoiler

Combining machine with humans

How? how does that magic button work? It's mysterious magical miracle bull**** that fits more in a fantasy world then a world based on reality. I mean the detail in the ME universe are so well thought out. Element Zero, The function of the Mass Relays, the thermal clips in the weapons. Everything lines up with plenty of detailed explanations....why not the end(s)? Especially considering there was not to be a ME4 and this was to be the very end of the saga. Seems less like an ending and more like a "you ******* fans will put up with whatever we give you without question so we'll just take a **** on paper and call it an ending".

 

[mood4food77]

mindless spam is not helpful

 

[sakuraZaKi]

Makes me imagine if everyone was a Vanguard, lol.

 

[Master Xanthan]

mindless spam is not helpful

So killing the enemies isn't helpful? I think you're just mad because you didn't get as many kills as him.

 

[sakuraZaKi]

I'd be mad too, I guess. Satisfaction from work.

 

[Pluvia]

You can choose to let the council live, which is pretty significant and makes a large impact on the ending of the first game.

@Mood4food, the vanguard did a lot to help you, the xp is shared so everything she killed is xp for you. The Vanguard is just a really powerful character and if you're good with the vanguard you'll always be raking in points. Not that it matters because the xp is shared, her xp is your xp. If you have an objective round the vanguard can hold everything back while you enable/disable devices. Also, nova and biotic charge is what the human vanguard does best, if you're not doing that as a human vanguard then you're not doing it right.

Not really, it's more of an afterthought choice that doesn't actually affect the end. The conclusion is still the same regardless. Same with ME2, you can get to the end with only Zaeed, Jacob and Morinth and still get the same ending as a full paragon everyone still alive playthrough.

Both endings have choices before the end that affect the future, and ME3 has that too.

 

[Master Xanthan]

I'd be mad too, I guess. Satisfaction from work.

But it doesn't matter how many points each person gets, all of the xp is shared. All the points each person gets is combined and that's the xp everyone gets. There's no reason to get mad at someone for using a character that's good at killing stuff.

 

[sakuraZaKi]

Being satisfied by getting XP is one thing, but having fun killing things is another.

It's not always about the XP, is what I'm saying.

 

[mood4food77]

she did nothing to help us, she completely ignored us, she would leave us to die and we basically got trapped around every corner

yea she was killing everything but it wasn't the killing around us, we'd be on the south end and she'd be in her own little room killing everything while we're trapped by geth primes

yes, she was the only reason we survived, but it wasn't fun at all, we basically were useless

 

[Master Xanthan]

Being satisfied by getting XP is one thing, but having fun killing things is another.

It's not always about the XP, is what I'm saying.

Eh, to me I just want to win. I don't care if I get the lowest or highest points, if we get through the 11 waves, then that's what I care about. If we have a Vanguard that's good at killing everything and getting the job done, then more power to him.

Edit: @mood4food, ok now that you're being more specific, now I do see how that Vanguard wasn't helping you, so yeah that was a bad Vanguard.

 

[Pluvia]

Being satisfied by getting XP is one thing, but having fun killing things is another.

It's not always about the XP, is what I'm saying.

Exactly.

It's all about the credits.

 

[sakuraZaKi]

Yeah. I actually feel somewhat the same way as you, too. Especially since all that time I put in the MP demo went down the drain.

I do like killing things, though. (I am a Vanguard )

@Pluvia:

Oh yes. The credits <3

 

[O D I N]

I'm Commander Shepard,

and this is my favorite ending on the Citadel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vG4E..._I&annotation_id=annotation_832874&feature=iv

 

[mood4food77]

so multiplayer just glitched

the 4 of us are looking around for the last enemies and they're no where in sight
we've run around the map like 18 times

 

[Archangel]

Both endings have choices before the end that affect the future, and ME3 has that too.

You realize the point of ME3 was to be conclusive right? End of ME3 voids any choices you ever made. The council living or dying, Saving or destroying the collector base. It voids every choice from the very first to the very last. No choice(including ME1 and ME2's final choices) have an effect at all.

 

[Pluvia]

This game is so glitchy, if you don't install the disc then you're guaranteed a glitch like everytime you play.

My mate was talking to Ashley in the hospital, finished the conversation, turned around and fell through the floor into the void.

 

[Archangel]

oh yeah forgot about that. I watched a friend play her femshep and the glitches had me rofl'ing. Glyph glitch in conversations with Liara for example when her shepard's head would do 360 degree rotations LOL.

 

[mitch2302]

my GT is RoleMoDL, and im down for any attempts at gold.

 

[LivewiresXe]

I agree that it's all about the credits instead of the XP. XP doesn't net you a Geth Plasma Shotgun like I just got today in my first Spectre Pack.

One of the most annoying things ever though that I find if you're playing with randoms is that they have an uncanny tendency to run RIGHT INTO TURRETS and then start screaming at you to help. Then of course someone else runs over to help, they get knocked down and do the same thing, then by the time you've found and sniped the Turret, you're the ONLY person left alive on the map despite yelling at them 5 minutes before to "Watch for Turrets".

 

[Pluvia]

No teammates, destroy the turret BEFORE you revive them.

On a different note my favourite part from the end:

Spoiler

STEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVE!!!!!!!!

I'm ok Shepard.

Oh ok.

 

[theeboredone]

Not sure how much different the demo was from the actual game, but I'm curious how this Vanguard was handling Guardians and their shields. With that being said, I struggled to play as Vanguard in silver matches, with Bronze being a breeze. Even if I did only equip a pistol and made my recharge 200%.

 

[LivewiresXe]

Not sure how much different the demo was from the actual game, but I'm curious how this Vanguard was handling Guardians and their shields. With that being said, I struggled to play as Vanguard in silver matches, with Bronze being a breeze. Even if I did only equip a pistol and made my recharge 200%.

Was it a Drell Vanguard? Because I'm pretty sure they have Pull and can just yank them away.

 

[Pluvia]

If you boost Nova and Charge right you can run into crowds in silver and decimate them. If it wasn't for Geth Hunters making your Charge go a bit glitchy then you could probably solo Geth on Silver with a Vanguard. And maybe even Reapers too, if it wasn't for the fact that the Banshee doesn't flinch and can insta-kill grab you seemingly before your Charge animation has finished.

 

[LivewiresXe]

If you boost Nova and Charge right you can run into crowds in silver and decimate them. If it wasn't for Geth Hunters making your Charge go a bit glitchy then you could probably solo Geth on Silver with a Vanguard. And maybe even Reapers too, if it wasn't for the fact that the Banshee doesn't flinch and can insta-kill grab you seemingly before your Charge animation has finished.

Yeah, I know exactly what you mean. Also, I learned the hard way that "Cloak doesn't work on Banshees because they can grab and chokeslam you to your death when you're invisible".

 

[Pluvia]

A lot of people don't seem to realise that if you touch butts with an enemy they're going to notice you whether or not you're invisible. But yeah Banshee's seem to notice you all the time, and turrets do too sometimes, presumaly when they want to make themselves more OP just to mess with you.

Also I found my favourite scene from the end on Youtube:

http://youtu.be/kqBXQVxS-qk

Literally no moment in the history of media tops that scene.

 

[O D I N]

A lot of people don't seem to realise that if you touch butts with an enemy they're going to notice you whether or not you're invisible. But yeah Banshee's seem to notice you all the time, and turrets do too sometimes, presumaly when they want to make themselves more OP just to mess with you.

Also I found my favourite scene from the end on Youtube:

http://youtu.be/kqBXQVxS-qk

Literally no moment in the history of media tops that scene.

lolzylololol.

Hopping online for some MP if anyone wants to join me.

 

[Pluvia]

I would join you ODIN I just can't tonight, it's annoying me that we failed on gold like 3 times and we never got the satisfaction of completing it.

I'll be online for most of tomorrow though once I finish work.

 

[LivewiresXe]

So...did those supposed "Free Operation Goliath MP Packs" ever come out today that we were supposed to get? I haven't been online to check.

 

[O D I N]

Yup.

I pulled the N7 Valiant. It's pretty sweet. It's like, half way between the Viper and Mantis (I have it in SP, but we all know those stats don't matter). And accurate as all hell. No recoil. :megustaface.jpg

My Victory Pack gave me jack. An SMG heat Sink and the Hornet IV.

...Woo...

 

[mood4food77]

i <3 the vindicator, so much better than the avenger

i still need more weapons

also, has anyone figured out how to hack an atlus?

so apparently, a banshee can still grab you even if you dodge backwards.....