Mass Effect series discussion

[LivewiresXe]

Yeah, and also the fact it's in April of all months with the whole "April Fool's" thing, has me going "hmmmm".

 

[O D I N]

That is actually 100% where I found out it didn't work from.

I had forgotten about that episode. I'm just trying to make a point.

Spoiler

A controlled explosion, like from an RPG, is different than an actual explosion.

You're going under the assumption that it's not a controlled explosion, and that it's the same as an asteroid.

Spoiler

There's nothing controlled about it. You can see the frakking explosion from outside the Galaxy.

Yeah, and also the fact it's in April of all months with the whole "April Fool's" thing, has me going "hmmmm".

I never trust April.

 

[LivewiresXe]

You know you suck, when a giant rat, and a guy wearing a hockey mask drive better than you.


Also, yeah...I want to believe the other thing, and especially that it's free but it sounds almost too good to be true. And if something sounds too good to be true, it often is. Though, that multiplayer one has to have at least some truth to it, with regards to races and stuff.

 

[Pluvia]

Though, that multiplayer one has to have at least some truth to it, with regards to races and stuff.

He linked to that stuff despite the fact a few of us already knew they existed, just the majority didn't, it was so his trolling would look better.

Hey it could be real but look he gives no evidence or sources.

 

[O D I N]

If I had to say anything out of what I've heard is true, it's the multiplayer stuff.

It's all very feasible, been up for a while, good images to back them up.

Spoiler

'The Truth' sounds nice and wonderful, but it's too good to be true.

Would I like it? Hell yes. But I'm taking it with the smallest grain of salt.

 

[Pluvia]

After ages of getting crap in my Spectre packs, I got 3 golds in 1.

Awww yeeeaaaah.

 

[LivewiresXe]

After ages of getting crap in my Spectre packs, I got 3 golds in 1.

Awww yeeeaaaah.

3 golds in 1? Say wha?

 

[Grey Belnades]

Spoiler

I've learned that anonymous does deliver...SOMETIMES. I remember back in January or Febuary when some anon posted on /v/ how Tali dies on Rannoch. We all laughed at him. When the game came out, turns out he was right. The Truth DLC....I say it's 60/40 for me. I don't think it'll be free.

 

[Pluvia]

3 golds in 1? Say wha?

Yeah I know. Plus I almost solo'd Reapers on Bronze, was well chuffed with that.

Don't understand why people use SMG's with Vanguards. I have a level 1 Disciple shotgun and +180% recharge speed.

 

[Archangel]

Spoiler

I've learned that anonymous does deliver...SOMETIMES. I remember back in January or Febuary when some anon posted on /v/ how Tali dies on Rannoch. We all laughed at him. When the game came out, turns out he was right. The Truth DLC....I say it's 60/40 for me. I don't think it'll be free.

I think any DLC sort of has to be free at this point. Considering many have spent over 70 or 80 dollars already. Over $200 total and they feel it was wasted....you kinda should give them something free. Even if it's just a sorry for ****ing you over DLC.

 

[Pluvia]

Oh ****, Brutes can instakill you. I've never seen one do it before and then BAM, it grabs me and slams me into the ground.

Wow.

 

[LivewiresXe]

Yeah I know. Plus I almost solo'd Reapers on Bronze, was well chuffed with that.

Don't understand why people use SMG's with Vanguards. I have a level 1 Disciple shotgun and +180% recharge speed.

I actually meant that I forgot Silver = Uncommon, and Gold = Rare.

 

[Master Xanthan]

what about n7 weapons? Is that above gold? Like the black widow for example.

 

[Pluvia]

It's above gold.

 

[Master Xanthan]

It's above gold.

So I'm guessing you can only get that in a spectre pack?

 

[Pluvia]

Yeah pretty sure. They are pretty much the best weapons though, I'm still waiting to get even 1.

 

[O D I N]

After ages of getting crap in my Spectre packs, I got 3 golds in 1.

Awww yeeeaaaah.

NICE. What'd you get?

Yeah I know. Plus I almost solo'd Reapers on Bronze, was well chuffed with that.

Don't understand why people use SMG's with Vanguards. I have a level 1 Disciple shotgun and +180% recharge speed.

Nice job.

I can't wait to get the Disciple. I liked in SP. I love how light it is. The range isn't too shabby either. It's no Eviscerator, but it's not bad. A nice, tight spread with the Smart Choke.

Oh ****, Brutes can instakill you. I've never seen one do it before and then BAM, it grabs me and slams me into the ground.

Wow.

Yeah, I learned that recently too. O_____O

what about n7 weapons? Is that above gold? Like the black widow for example.

Yup. I posted a pic a while back of what they look like.

So I'm guessing you can only get that in a spectre pack?

Higher odds in Spectre, but you have a chance in ANY pack. Just better in Spectre.


http://blog.bioware.com/2012/03/19/operation-goliath-success-2/

HOLY ****.

3. MILLION. Brutes.

 

[LivewiresXe]

That's pretty damn impressive.

Also, about the Spectre packs, I always WANT to get one, but...when I get 40,000 credits I normally can't hold out anymore and go for 2 Veteran packs...I've actually NEVER bought a Spectre pack for that reason alone.

 

[O D I N]

That's pretty damn impressive.

Also, about the Spectre packs, I always WANT to get one, but...when I get 40,000 credits I normally can't hold out anymore and go for 2 Veteran packs...I've actually NEVER bought a Spectre pack for that reason alone.

I'm doing the same right now. I need to save for more Spectres.

 

[LivewiresXe]

I'm doing the same right now. I need to save for more Spectres.

The funny thing is because of that I have 21 Clip things, and 18 Missile Launchers.

 

[Pluvia]

Me and Aidan just did 3 Gold's in a row.

TON's of credits.

 

[O D I N]

Me and Aidan just did 3 Gold's in a row.

TON's of credits.

That last one I tried to do with you was crazy.

That spot doesn't seem ideal for White. @__@ You get sandwiched too easily. But I digress.

And I think we can handle Reapers, it was just the Level and that placement for the Objective. TERRIBLE.

 

[Master Xanthan]

So what's the best way to do gold? What's the best map and what classes should everyone use?

 

[sakuraZaKi]

I'm so pissed that I can't play with you guys.

 

[O D I N]

So what's the best way to do gold? What's the best map and what classes should everyone use?

I dunno. I'm still working on that. :x

 

[Pluvia]

You need an Infiltrator, that's for sure, and you need Stasis for Cerberus. Quarian Infiltrators and Salarian Engineers are great for Geth.

Reapers? Pffft.

 

[Archangel]

So what's the best way to do gold? What's the best map and what classes should everyone use?

it kind of doesn't matter as long as you have a solid well balanced team.

You'll need a stealth medic.


Outrage over ME3 has reached Yahoo news? Holy ****!
http://games.yahoo.com/blogs/plugged-in/outrage-over-mass-effect-3-ending-reaches-ftc-173411384.html

 

[Pluvia]

So on Biowares forums if you like the ending you either work for EA or are a troll. And there's calls for Casey Hudson to be fired.

I guess this is a way to tell publishers never to fund games that care about their fans. Just stick with generic FPS'.

 

[theeboredone]

it kind of doesn't matter as long as you have a solid well balanced team.

You'll need a stealth medic.


Outrage over ME3 has reached Yahoo news? Holy ****!
http://games.yahoo.com/blogs/plugged-in/outrage-over-mass-effect-3-ending-reaches-ftc-173411384.html

It also reached Forbes as well, which is more surprising.

Pluvia doing a good job meshing fanatics to represent the entire gaming population.

 

[Pluvia]

It's the fanatics that are the loudest and causing the most damage. It doesn't matter if it's a minority, as (everything) shows that a minority can ruin things for a majority.

And if it was the entire gaming population arguably you could say the endings were liked, as if I were to judge by the people I know that have played the game but don't go on gaming websites, then the reviews are much more favourable.

 

[LivewiresXe]

It's the fanatics that are the loudest and causing the most damage. It doesn't matter if it's a minority, as (everything) shows that a minority can ruin things for a majority.

And if it was the entire gaming population arguably you could say the endings were liked, as if I were to judge by the people I know that have played the game but don't go on gaming websites, then the reviews are much more favourable.

In short, this whole thing is best summed up as "The squeaky wheel gets the grease".

 

[Master Xanthan]

I'm definitely using Asari Vanguard for gold from now on. Stasis bubble is too good.

 

[LivewiresXe]

I'm definitely using Asari Vanguard for gold from now on. Stasis bubble is too good.

Doesn't Stasis followed by Lift Grenade create a Biotic Explosion?

 

[Archangel]

So on Biowares forums if you like the ending you either work for EA or are a troll. And there's calls for Casey Hudson to be fired.

I guess this is a way to tell publishers never to fund games that care about their fans. Just stick with generic FPS'.

What? Clearly the outcome suggests the opposite. Did you look at the list of promises? There are so many lies....as stupid as this is I think they have a good chance of winning of BW doesn't do something soon. They have interviews and quotes of at least 30 separate lies. All I could say was damn...Casey Hudson dug a huge hole for himself.

It's the fanatics that are the loudest and causing the most damage. It doesn't matter if it's a minority, as (everything) shows that a minority can ruin things for a majority.

And if it was the entire gaming population arguably you could say the endings were liked, as if I were to judge by the people I know that have played the game but don't go on gaming websites, then the reviews are much more favourable.

This can't possibly be correct considering there are also people who hate the ending but don't go to websites to review...etc. I can name 5 people I know who fit into this category....so I'm pretty sure it's the Majority that are at least disappointed. Maybe not raging or ready to riot but not happy with what they got.



List Of MASS EFFECT 3's Broken Promises....so far

Official Mass Effect Website
http://masseffect.com/about/story/

“Experience the beginning, middle, and end of an emotional story unlike any
other, where the decisions you make completely shape your experience
and outcome.”

Interview with Mac Walters (Lead Writer)
http://popwatch.ew.com/2012/02/28/mass-effect-3-mac-walters/

“[The presence of the Rachni] has huge consequences in Mass
Effect 3. Even just in the final battle with the Reapers.”

Interview with Mac Walters (Lead Writer)
http://business.financialpost.com/2...on-how-the-game-tries-to-reach-all-audiences/

“I’m always leery of saying there are 'optimal' endings, because I think
one of the things we do try to do is make different endings that are
optimal for different people “

Interview with Mike Gamble (Associate Producer)
http://www.computerandvideogames.co...rought-back-a-lot-of-what-was-missing-in-me2/

“And, to be honest, you [the fans] are crafting your Mass Effect story as
much as we are anyway.”

Interview with Mike Gamble (Associate Producer)
http://www.360magazine.co.uk/interview/mass-effect-3-has-many-different-endings/

“There are many different endings. We wouldn’t do it any other way. How
could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and
then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets? But I can’t
say any more than that…”

Interview with Mike Gamble (Associate Producer)
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...s-effect-3-ending-will-make-some-people-angry

“Every decision you've made will impact how things go. The player's also the
architect of what happens."

“You'll get answers to everything. That was one of the key things. Regardless
of how we did everything, we had to say, yes, we're going to provide
some answers to these people.”

“Because a lot of these plot threads are concluding and because it's being
brought to a finale, since you were a part of architecting how they
got to how they were, you will definitely sense how they close was
because of the decisions you made and because of the decisions you
didn't make”

Interview with Casey Hudson (Director)
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2011/04/28/casey-hudson-interview-mass-effect-3.aspx

“For people who are invested in these characters and the back-story of the
universe and everything, all of these things come to a resolution in
Mass Effect 3. And they are resolved in a way that's very different
based on what you would do in those situations.”

Interview with Casey Hudson (Director)
http://venturebeat.com/2012/03/02/c...t-3-with-the-sometimes-cranky-fans-interview/

“Fans want to make sure that they see things resolved, they want to get
some closure, a great ending. I think they’re going to get that.”

“Mass Effect 3 is all about answering all the biggest questions in the
lore, learning about the mysteries and the Protheans and the Reapers,
being able to decide for yourself how all of these things come to an
end.”

Interviewer: “So are you guys the creators or the stewards of the franchise?”
Hudson: “Um… You know, at this point, I think we’re co-creators with
the fans. We use a lot of feedback.”

Interview with Casey Hudson (Director)
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/featu...fdsafdhudson-interviewae.aspx?PostPageIndex=2

Interviewer: [Regarding the numerous possible endings of Mass Effect 2] “Is that
same type of complexity built into the ending of Mass Effect 3?”
Hudson: “Yeah, and I’d say much more so, because we have the ability to
build the endings out in a way that we don’t have to worry about
eventually tying them back together somewhere. This story arc is
coming to an end with this game. That means the endings can be a lot
more different. At this point we’re taking into account so many
decisions that you’ve made as a player and reflecting a lot of that
stuff. It’s not even in any way like the traditional game endings,
where you can say how many endings there are or whether you got
ending A, B, or C.....The endings have a lot more sophistication and
variety in them.”

“We have a rule in our franchise that there is no canon. You as a player
decide what your story is.”

Mike Gamble (Associate Producer)
http://www.nowgamer.com/news/1027650/mass_effect_3_reapers_can_win_bioware.html

Mass Effect 3 will shake up the player's moral choices more than ever
before, even going so far as allowing the Reapers to win the battle
for Earth, according to BioWare's community representative Mike
Gamble.


In an inteview with NowGamer at Gamescom, we asked if BioWare was taking risks with Mass Effect 3's
plot, including a negative ending in which the Reapers win. Gamble simply said, "Yes". We asked him again to confirm what he had just said and he said, "Yes".


Mike Gamble (Associate Producer)
http://www.nowgamer.com/features/12...per_interview_shepard_coop_story_details.html


"Of course you don’t have to play multiplayer, you can choose to play
all the side-quests in single-player and do all that stuff you’ll
still get all the same endings and same information, it’s just a
totally different way of playing"


Casey Hudson (Director)
http://gamescatalyst.com/2012/03/casey-hudson-kinect-the-future-of-interactive-stories/

“The whole idea of Mass Effect3 is resolving all of the biggest questions, about the Protheons and
the Reapers, and being in the driver's seat to end the galaxy and all
of these big plot lines, to decide what civilizations are going to
live or die: All of these things are answered in Mass Effect 3.”

Casey Hudson (Director)
http://www.computerandvideogames.co...-go-on-holiday-our-dlc-is-really-good/?page=2

“There is a huge set of consequences that start stacking up as you approach the end-game. And
even in terms of the ending itself, it continues to break down to
some very large decisions. So it's not like a classic game ending
where everything is linear and you make a choice between a few things
- it really does layer in many, many different choices, up to the
final moments, where it's going to be different for everyone who
plays it.”

Ray Muzyka (Co-Founder of Bioware)
http://penny-arcade.com/report/edit...ss-the-old-republic-launch-ending-a-trilogy-a

“I just finished an end to end playthrough, for me the ending was the
most satisfying of any game I’ve ever played….the decisions you make in
this game are epic,”

“The team has been planning
for this for years, since the beginning of the Mass Effect franchise.
Largely the same team, most of the same leads have worked on this for
years and years. They’ve thought about [the ending] for years and years.
It’s not something they’ve had to solve in a week or a month even, but
over the course of five or ten years.”

 

[Master Xanthan]

I've also heard you were supposed to have multiple hub worlds, such as Illium. In ME3, all we got is the Citadel.

 

[Archangel]

I've also heard you were supposed to have multiple hub worlds, such as Illium. In ME3, all we got is the Citadel.

Another thing that irritates me is the fact that nobody knows what the Citadel is....Considering the prothean's extremely high level of sense how could they not have known? How could they have not sensed anything? That's just...the stupidest ****ing thing....

 

[Pluvia]

I've also heard you were supposed to have multiple hub worlds, such as Illium. In ME3, all we got is the Citadel.

I don't remember that. You see a lot lies being spread by the fanatics going around, pretty much the only one that is true which Bioware backed up on is the answering everything to do with the Reapers, but as you can see from the Final Hours of Mass Effect they changed their mind on that one.

And I've not seen an article that supports the fans yet with their delusional overestimation of what can be achieved on 2 DVD's and an Xbox 360. A good thing is a lot more people are showing up aross the Internet to defend the endings I've noticed, and there's been threads about them from the fanatics asking other fanatics to drown them out.

Honestly the extreme lengths people go to in their whining is unbelievable. I guess I'll never understand why this is a "0/10 my mum got ***** I hope Bioware collapses I'm suing them Casey Hudson needs to be fired" situation.

 

[theeboredone]

Because people take video games seriously. Then again, if I spent a 100 bucks on some Collector's Edition, I better get what I'm expecting as well lol.

 

[LivewiresXe]

Because people take video games seriously. Then again, if I spent a 100 bucks on some Collector's Edition, I better get what I'm expecting as well lol.

I DID spend $100 on the CE though, and I think this is crazy...

 

[Pikaville]

I was pretty damn satisfied with the ending to be honest.

I mean I was a bit head****ed at 1st, but that was to be expected.

Tyler we are gonna beat Reapers on gold tonight.

Also is it wrong that I spent 4000 or so MS points on Spectre and Veteran packs?

I think getting my precious Turian Sentinel and the Javelin as well as all the equipment I'll ever need was worth it.

Also you guys should see THE AMOUNT of people that are dead in my game.

My memorial wall on the Normandy is more than 2/3rds full! O_0

I should have more names there too but I had to start ME:2 with my paragon file

Stupid counsil still being alive......