Mario Boards: General Discussion

[Famous]

im good with rob! better than with mario i guess, but marios fun just because of how simple he is. i already jus figured out cape gliding, it said it would be hard to learn at first. im pretty much doing it every time which took like 5 minutes lol.

Cape Gliding is like taking a breath to me...Cape Dashing is like taking a sheit, sometimes it comes out and sometimes it doesn't XD

 

[Matador]

Cape Gliding is like taking a breath to me...Cape Dashing is like taking a sheit, sometimes it comes out and sometimes it doesn't XD

Lmfaoooo

Famous obv 3-stocked the analogy portion of the SATs

 

[Kanzaki]

I got a perfect score in the math portion of the SAT's >.>


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[fromundaman]

I never planned on entering an event for even a moment. Lol. I even said that in the tourney thread.

I must have missed that. What if I offered to pay for your singles? (AKA is it that you don't want to or can't? I feel it's a shame to go and not enter anything.)

hello fellow marios. I main yoshi and play characters like rob and lucario for fun but i cant kill my friends mario as rob. Do you have any tips on marios weakness against rob

For ROB, on top of what everyone else said, abuse your Ftilt. It's an amazing spacing move and is pretty effective at keeping Mario out when mixed with Fair and retreating Nair (I think? That one works well against grab-happy Kirby, but not sure for Mario).

nope but wiki said it would be. oh and my D-throw to upB works pretty good. but only if you fast fall to get up before they can hit you

Watch out, that's not safe at all. Proper DI/SDI will allow them to punish you pretty hard.

 

[vato_break]

i didn't even have enough money to take the SAT's >.>

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[~ Gheb ~]

Meet me @ Apex

Wiki lied to you if it said ANYTHING in this game is difficult as far as inputs go.

Not true.

 

[2fast]

Wiki lied to you if it said ANYTHING in this game is difficult as far as inputs go.

Actually, I think this game is rather hard when it comes to button inputs. Not melee hard but still dificult compared to most other games. Has anyone ever taken the time to look down at a pro brawlers hands while they're in a match? I have. Your hands have to be moving pretty fast I found out to play brawl xP.

 

[DtJ XeroXen]

Join me in the inactive club Xero.

I've been in the inactive club since August 21st, 2010. I think I was inactive first.

 

[A2ZOMG]

Actually, I think this game is rather hard when it comes to button inputs. Not melee hard but still dificult compared to most other games. Has anyone ever taken the time to look down at a pro brawlers hands while they're in a match? I have. Your hands have to be moving pretty fast I found out to play brawl xP.

Traditional fighters man. Play one. If you really want to freak yourself out, then go play SSF4; better yet get extremely familiar with the theory behind the game in general. There needs to be a college course for SSF4. That's how ridiculous of a game it is. Thought Melee was hard? Hell no. Melee is not hard. Learning Fox or Falco...maybe yeah. Not everyone is going to want to do that. Learning any character in SSF4...with the exception of the grapplers I guess...is significantly more difficult than learning Fox or Falco though.

But seriously, high level SSF4 makes Melee look like a cakewalk in general.

 

[Juushichi]

If you want to pay for singles for me, you can, but idk. I feel kinda awkward having someone pay for me. And it's literally because I can't rather than not wanting to (pay).

 

[Fire!]

Learning any character in SSF4...with the exception of the grapplers I guess...is significantly more difficult than learning Fox or Falco though.

As long as you're good with option selects, linking moves and hit confirming then you've got a lot of the game down. The rest is just reading your opponent and having high reaction time. A lot easier said then done of course.

also...lolDhalsim

 

[DtJ XeroXen]

But Street Fighter is also really boring so yeah.

 

[Matador]

Meet me @ Apex



Not true.

My bad.

Anything that matters. Anything that'll win you tournaments.

Not Yoshi's Draconic-whosie-whatsit or IC's 4th type of CG.

@A2: SSF4 isn't hard, dude. What're you telling these guys? Fire JUST broke down the entire game with the exception of mentioning that top players don't even think about links. They just incorporate plinking and practice until they don't need to think about it anymore. Committing to muscle memory doesn't equate to "hard" in my book.

It's also extremely cut and dried as far as match-ups go. There's no "With good reads, and if you SDI out of this and don't airdodge here, you may be able to win!" There's just character A mauling character B simply because they don't have the options or tools to deal with them, even at scubby level. It's something that's always been true for traditional fighters.

It makes them easier competitively than they should be.

 

[Matt07]

What's 'an' Street Fighter?

Only fighting games I heard about was Smash, but that's just me .

 

[Inferno3044]

I've been in the inactive club since August 21st, 2010. I think I was inactive first.

That sounds like when I went inactive. When I left for college. I go to tourneys when I'm home but that's about it. I was never even that active to begin with.

 

[Juushichi]

SF also doesn't have stages that need to be taken into account. ****, you throw a platform into SF and it becomes a totally different game.

 

[Matador]

SF also doesn't have stages that need to be taken into account. ****, you throw a platform into SF and it becomes a totally different game.

LOL @ that image!

 

[Inferno3044]

Smash is the only competitive fighter game I know of that has the stage as a factor. It makes sense because the point of the game is different. Instead of getting your opponent's health to 0, you try to get them beyond a blast zone (I'm including the bottom with this).

 

[smokey da bear]

Actually, I think this game is rather hard when it comes to button inputs. Not melee hard but still dificult compared to most other games. Has anyone ever taken the time to look down at a pro brawlers hands while they're in a match? I have. Your hands have to be moving pretty fast I found out to play brawl xP.

I agree with this statement except for the fact that not every character in brawl requires fast fingers it is only about 1/3 of them that actually do.

P.S. - nice avatar when did you change it =P now i have to top yours again

 

[A2ZOMG]

@A2: SSF4 isn't hard, dude. What're you telling these guys? Fire JUST broke down the entire game with the exception of mentioning that top players don't even think about links. They just incorporate plinking and practice until they don't need to think about it anymore. Committing to muscle memory doesn't equate to "hard" in my book.

Melee is all muscle memory as well. Except you don't even really need to know how the game works to pick it up reasonably fast.

SSF4 is a game you cannot pick up really quickly. Not only do you need muscle memory to be good at SSF4, you have to actually know wtf is going on. You're also really underestimating how difficult it is to learn how to space in SSF4. Spacing in SSF4 is MUCH more technical than spacing in Smash by far.

Furthermore on a basis of how many buttons you need to hit, you need to hit FAR more buttons in SSF4 than you do in Melee.

 

[JuxtaposeX]

Hit the B button like you don't......

 

[vato_break]

smash requires more reads :I

 

[Fire!]

Hit the B button like you don't......

I laughed so hard at that

 

[Matador]

Melee is all muscle memory as well. Except you don't even really need to know how the game works to pick it up reasonably fast.

SSF4 is a game you cannot pick up really quickly. Not only do you need muscle memory to be good at SSF4, you have to actually know wtf is going on. You're also really underestimating how difficult it is to learn how to space in SSF4. Spacing in SSF4 is MUCH more technical than spacing in Smash by far.

Furthermore on a basis of how many buttons you need to hit, you need to hit FAR more buttons in SSF4 than you do in Melee.

Melee's not necessarily hard either, lol. More difficult than Brawl in a lot of ways, and challenging enough to be legitimately competitive, but, as you said, it's muscle memory. After that, it's a matter of recognizing patterns (reads) and spacing.

Not really true regarding the "easy to pick up" aspect of melee either. In either game, one who understands DI, crouch cancelling, sweetspotting, and has superior general techskill will win...usually decisively. Same with SSF4 and footsies, links, and option selecting. Both have ENOUGH depth to give the player who has put more time into the game a significant advantage. But yea, as far as buttons go and depth in spacing...yeah SSF4 > Melee.

However, a truly difficult game to master would be something like starcraft or MvC2. Games where committing time and watching a few vids won't be enough.

Full post was too long and douchie sounding, so my opinion ends hereeeee.

 

[fromundaman]

If you want to pay for singles for me, you can, but idk. I feel kinda awkward having someone pay for me. And it's literally because I can't rather than not wanting to (pay).

Sounds like a plan then. We need more Mario rep anyway. Also, depending on how things go, I might need a partner if you're up for it.




And meh, I never really got into SF in general, but it seems like it's a more technical game, but with less mindgames and such. Hell, I'd say the smash series seems more mindgame oriented than most fighting games (That I've played at least).

 

[DtJ XeroXen]

You know what's fun? Marvel vs Capcom 3.

You know what is the least fun fighter I own? Super Street Fighter IV. Which is why I don't play it. It's not anywhere near fast paced enough to be fun for me.

 

[Matador]

You know what's fun? Marvel vs Capcom 3.

You know what is the least fun fighter I own? Super Street Fighter IV. Which is why I don't play it. It's not anywhere near fast paced enough to be fun for me.

Having fun with both currently. Loving how balanced Marvel is turning out to be.

You should see my Viewtiful Joe. He's so ****in viewtiful, it's ridiculous.

@ Fromundaman: There's actually mindgames going on all the time in SF. Just looks different. That thing where they dance back and forth and throw out random attacks (low lag...they want them to whiff on purpose and punish someone trying to punish them) is where the bulk of their mindgames lie. Pretty deep stuff actually.

Still not at deep as Smash goes imo though. Just not enough options for it.

 

[HeroMystic]

I only play MvC3 to spam Maximum Spider.

I only play SSF4 to spam Target Combo with Guy.

When it comes down to actually learning the game I get pissed at my controller and wish I had an arcade stick.

 

[SKidd]

I think a game's difficulty shouldn't matter, it should be whether you have fun playing it or not.

 

[Matador]

I only play MvC3 to spam Maximum Spider.

I only play SSF4 to spam Target Combo with Guy.

When it comes down to actually learning the game I get pissed at my controller and wish I had an arcade stick.

You always end up playing the same characters I do, lol.

Mario, Guy, Spidey...you prolly main Zerg right?

 

[HeroMystic]

I have three recent fighting games (BB:CS, SSF4, MvC3), and I have fun with all of them, especially BB:CS. All three games aren't really difficult to play, but if you really want to be advanced then having a plain controller just wrecks your hand coordination.

Also, the only difference between Smash and Street Fighter is SF has a lot less variables.

you prolly main Zerg right?

I dislike Zerg the most actually. I main Terran and play Protoss on the side.

 

[Matador]

Heresy! -_-

Zerg da bess!

 

[Matt07]

Pfft...

Terran is where it's at. 1A'ing everything for the win xD.

 

[vato_break]

there's a point when you realize you can't get mario any further...mario does indeed have a limit imo and boss did in fact reach it.we shouldn't let boss dropping of mario discourage us.we must continue to do what we've been doing and try to reach the level boss was at,its possible you just have to have the right mindset.

loooooooooooooooooooooooooool

 

[HeroMystic]

Zerg da bess!

At QQ.

 

[Inferno3044]

loooooooooooooooooooooooooool

Damn. That's almost 2 years ago. But yeah Mario is bad and I am probably gonna pick up Falco. He is pretty fun to play and I love his jab cancel ****. Only problem is I can't kill for ****. I eventually get people to really high percents and kill with dtilt lol.

 

[HeroMystic]

Falco would be the top tier I'd play as well.

 

[Jimmyfosho]

Ice climbers would be my particular choice.

 

[DtJ XeroXen]

I would travel back in time and punch myself in the face for considering the possibility of winning with Mario, then have him pick up Metaknight.

Also Hero, arcade sticks are really really sexy. I got mine for Christmas and I love being able to use it for just about every game I own. Except Halo. (But believe me, I tried)

 

[SKidd]

I just got back from a tourney in which 6 people attended, with one set up of Vanilla Brawl.



So fun. I got third.