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Javon89

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The impossible Metaknight matchup and a gay bracket that made all of Indiana play each other in loser's bracket one after another. (Seriously, I practiced with those guys the night before, and we ALL KNOCKED EACHOTHER OUT.)

I got 2nd seed in my pool too, I got bracket ****ed pretty hard.
Same thing happened to Famous....
 

Kanzaki

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Just ask the TO to check the brackets before they start announcing matches, and if you see yourself near your friends, it's a legit reason to ask to switch the brackets around.
 

fromundaman

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The impossible Metaknight matchup and a gay bracket that made all of Indiana play each other in loser's bracket one after another. (Seriously, I practiced with those guys the night before, and we ALL KNOCKED EACHOTHER OUT.)

I got 2nd seed in my pool too, I got bracket ****ed pretty hard.
That sucks, not to mention I think you got the MK player who knows the Mario MU the best there (Seriously, 2 people in Dayton play Mario, out of like... 5. Scribz knows that MU well.)


Yeah, those brackets seemed messed up... I mean, no offense, but seeing some of you guys place so low and some of the guys who placed higher (Did Jerk and Links get radically better or something? Both of them placed higher than I expected. And who are Mega Ultra Chicken and Dickshelf?). Also, I know Scribble got you, YbM, M2K, then shugo, which is a pretty ****ed up bracket right there XD
 

Javon89

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That sucks, not to mention I think you got the MK player who knows the Mario MU the best there (Seriously, 2 people in Dayton play Mario, out of like... 5. Scribz knows that MU well.)


Yeah, those brackets seemed messed up... I mean, no offense, but seeing some of you guys place so low and some of the guys who placed higher (Did Jerk and Links get radically better or something? Both of them placed higher than I expected. And who are Mega Ultra Chicken and Dickshelf?). Also, I know Scribble got you, YbM, M2K, then shugo, which is a pretty ****ed up bracket right there XD
Dayum, that pretty bad....

Xero there's is always next time. In my book you are a very great Mario
 

fromundaman

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After looking at the brackets, I agree with Clowsui.

Although letting everyone advance pools makes everyone get more games in, it made way too many byes, which ****ed the brackets.
 

HeroMystic

Legacy of the Mario
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Inherently incompatible since both games are rather different and therefore based off of personal opinion. There's a lot to compare them by.

Personally though? I find Brawl Mario to be better.
 

A2ZOMG

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Mario is the same in all three Smash games. He's mid tier.

In 64 you can D-air a lot into ****. In Melee you can Cape guard the ledge a lot to ****. In Brawl you can outrange everything with F-smash a lot to ****.

That's the way I see it at least. =P
 

Juushichi

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High learning curve, you have to really work for kills and (generally) low tournament placing. It's great that everyone is (generally) on the same page, though, and a good number of our mains love our main.
 

Matador

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Mario was the best in 64. He was NOT mid tier. He's only mid tier in Melee.
QFT...Mario was actually pretty good in 64.

He should be higher in Brawl too...he's better than he is in Melee. His recovery, range, and KO power were horribly bad...His only redeemable qualities were his powerful combo game, speed, and half-decent offstage game.
 

Javon89

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I feel that Brawl Mario is better. I like the very reliable ability to gimp, which is my bread and butter, oh I also like to piss off my opponent but I hate Meta-Knight so I use Diddy and Falco.
 

Inferno3044

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QFT...Mario was actually pretty good in 64.

He should be higher in Brawl too...he's better than he is in Melee. His recovery, range, and KO power were horribly bad...His only redeemable qualities were his powerful combo game, speed, and half-decent offstage game.
It's not that Mario got worse. Other than the B-throw nerf Mario is better than he was in melee in many ways. It's the mechanics of the game that mess up characters like Jiggz, Ganon, and Shiek. If Brawl had melee mechanics (a lot of fastfalling, can't grab the edge from behind, etc.) Mario would be seen as a much better character than he is now with brawl's mechanics.
 

Matador

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It's not that Mario got worse. Other than the B-throw nerf Mario is better than he was in melee in many ways. It's the mechanics of the game that mess up characters like Jiggz, Ganon, and Shiek. If Brawl had melee mechanics (a lot of fastfalling, can't grab the edge from behind, etc.) Mario would be seen as a much better character than he is now with brawl's mechanics.
I'm saying, with all of that into account, Brawl Mario > Melee Mario imo.

I'm super rusty on my Melee knowledge though...so I dunno, lmao. Just going based off back when I played it competitively...and how frustrating it was to try and KO Peach, deal with Marth's range, or recover vs a smart Jiggz.
 

fromundaman

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It's cool with you guys if I use MK against really bad matchups in tourney right?

Thought so, thanks guys, I don't like losing to MK.
Why are you asking for permission?
Do you want to place well? Do you want to win?

If you answer the above yes, then play whoever you need to to not get screwed over/avoid bad MUs.
 

BoTastic!

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It's not that Mario got worse. Other than the B-throw nerf Mario is better than he was in melee in many ways. It's the mechanics of the game that mess up characters like Jiggz, Ganon, and Shiek. If Brawl had melee mechanics (a lot of fastfalling, can't grab the edge from behind, etc.) Mario would be seen as a much better character than he is now with brawl's mechanics.
^^^^ ^This
 

DtJ XeroXen

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Against Olimar, the main problem is approaching him, once you're inside your able to punish as you usually do.

However, Olimar has what I consider the strongest ground game in the entire game, approaching him isn't easy and if you plan on getting any damage at all you HAVE to approach.

Nair might do the job... unless the Olimar pivot grabs, so I generally tend not to use it, instead I'll stay in the air or on platforms, quickly making my way towards Oli. Once you're near him, you have a few options. You could use Bair and double jump out of the way of the grab that is sure to come if you miss/he shields it, you could use Dair and Nair off of his shield or make your way behind him, unless it hits and then you get to juggle. Alternatively, you can cape stall when you think he's going to grab, and then you're free to fall in with a nair and grab or something.

Basically, get in and punish heavily with throws/your ground game, and try to get that gimp as early as possible. Of course your aerial game is good too, if he happens to be in the air, but I think the gimp is way more important.
 
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