Data Mah0ne's Stuff about Puff

[King5280]

Of course, as necessary to be a puff player.

Shoutouts to ruining this game for everyone

**** the haters.






Even if they do have a little bit of a point. Playing against Puff as most characters blows lol.

 

[Metà]

any puffs that aren't in the skype chat

are missing out

just sayin



we need more puffs :<

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

Invite me!!!! sveetx

 

[crush]

I would be, but its my bedtime

 

[idea]

any puffs that aren't in the skype chat

are missing out

just sayin



we need more puffs :<

maybe later tonight...

 

[Republican0fHeaven]

How often is the chat?

 

[Krynxe]

It's always up, just post whenever and whoever is online will respond lol.

Skype group chats are pretty cool like that

 

[Zanx8]

How often is the chat?

It goes on randomly and probably anytime for the most part. =P It has people talking a lot though like right now

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

won't stop spamming my skype atm... I'm trying to homework!!!!

 

[Krynxe]

is probably the worst chat ever.

It was a pretty good idea at first Meta, but then we let Tekk and Mahone in.

 

[Tekk]

hi Krynxe
how are you, dear friend ?

 

[Krynxe]

Very good.

I like that tekk guy, never mind what I said

Mahone is still Mahone though

 

[Tekk]

wtf what does that even mean
that's pretty racist of you man

 

[Mahone]

haha, ya like that one time we actually talked about puff, and i gave more insight than everyone else combined

 

[Krynxe]

Being a mahone is a good thing

You guys are silly

 

[crush]

hey krynxe!!!! <3

 

[Krynxe]

Hello Crush

 

[ShroudedOne]

What happens when you let that scrub ShroudedOne into a chat. Gosh Krynxe, way to ruin a good thing.

 

[Tekk]

So we have Sveet, Foxlisk, Shrouded, Mahone, Krynxe (SIGHHHH.....); all we miss now is KK to lighten our hearts

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

KK is too unenlightened for the puff chat.

 

[ShroudedOne]

I'd like some KirbyKaze goodness in the chat.

 

[Republican0fHeaven]

How do you join the group? I can't tonight tho... working (with my mobile screen =P)

 

[Krynxe]

Add me (skype: Krynxe) or another puff on skype and you'll be added

Also, all further skype/random discussion here

This is the MU thread, we have a social thread for a reason.

 

[FoxLisk]

im insulted that you didnt mention me when you were explaining why the thread is useless and stupid >:o (dance)

 

[Keblerelf]

Against fox/falcos that are better than me, should I up throw when I grab them near the edge or go for a back throw?

Up throw is guaranteed to give me an advantage. If he DIs forward, I can combo. If he DIs back, he's still off the stage and I can hit him with at least one bair.

Back throw is not so much, but there is a very high reward if I can guess his recovery right. Also, it's scary getting thrown off the ledge so the psychological aspect might help.

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

Well bthrow might get you a gimp but worst case has them pinned to the edge. Uthrow might get you a rest but also might let them reset to neutral. Both have the possibility for a stock gain but bthrow has a positional advantage guaranteed. Mixing it up is always good tho

 

[Krynxe]

Almost always bthrow. If you uthrow and they DI towards the middle of the stage, you pretty much lost your kill.

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

I know as fox, when marth dthrows me by the edge I have to DI away or else I get hit by fsmash or dtilt. I think I tend to DI away in this case against puff, too, but is that necessary?


Also, I know its been covered, but if you're facing the edge with ur grab, you should usually dthrow instead of fthrow since you get a rest if they DI in.

 

[Massive]

Against fox/falcos that are better than me, should I up throw when I grab them near the edge or go for a back throw?

Up throw is guaranteed to give me an advantage. If he DIs forward, I can combo. If he DIs back, he's still off the stage and I can hit him with at least one bair.

Back throw is not so much, but there is a very high reward if I can guess his recovery right. Also, it's scary getting thrown off the ledge so the psychological aspect might help.

I'm in the bthrow camp.

It is possible for uthrow to be DI'd so the best you'd get is a single (non fatal) hit.

In this situation, bthrow is low risk, high reward. A successful gimp is a stock taken with almost no chance of being punished. Even an unsuccessful gimp leads to jigglypuff's ledgegame. And we all know that a jigglypuff's natural habitat is the ledge.

 

[hungrybox]

backthrow off the edge and one back air -> ledge grab = stock

 

[Krynxe]

^ Pretty much.

nairs/fairs also work great for covering options. You usually have to hit them again if you nair, due to it's low knockback

 

[idea]

backthrow, and yeah do what hbox said

watch the platforms, especially if they DI in/are at low percent. spacies generally like to recover as high onstage as possible for obvious reasons.

 

[Republican0fHeaven]

I seriously never considered using dthrow facing offstage instead of fthrow on spacies as a DI tricker. good stuff

 

[Krynxe]

I highly doubt that will work to be honest, dthrow takes like 10 seconds to do so they have plenty of time to react and change their DI.

 

[Mahone]

ya, its more if they aren't aware where they will end up if they di in... so if they have no puff experience they might di in, but if they di out, thats probably better than fthrow anyway, especially if u factor in the fact that you can sdi fthrow lol


also, whats the trick to lcanceling dair, i think its time for me to learn it, is it latter than you expect?

 

[idea]

Whenever you want to L-cancel it, instead put down the controller, go take a nap, get some coffee, **** some *****es, then sit down and press L once.

 

[Krynxe]

^ You should actually wait until after the dair to rest

But yes, it is much later than you'd expect. It's pretty annoying timing, sometimes I just do like a double trigger thing and mash both Z and R and hope I just get it lol.

 

[Mahone]

Whenever you want to L-cancel it, instead put down the controller, go take a nap, get some coffee, **** some *****es, then sit down and press L once.

haha, ya thats what it feels like, thanks man

 

[Republican0fHeaven]

So DIing the dthrow offstage puts the opponent in a better place (for jiggz to punish) than a regular fthrow?

(also if they accidentally DI in or don't have exp = rest)......

Therefore dthrow > fthrow (low mid percent) if facing offstage
and bthrow > uthrow if facing onstage

If on the center of the stage, its MU dependent but mostly uthrow or dthrow platform tech chase.

So... only fthrow if you are near the ledge, facing offstage and they're at high percent???

 

[Mahone]

ya that sounds about right... the only thing up for debate is what IS high percent


also, to add the obvious...

fthrow when they are really high percent no matter where you are