Low Tiers + Lowest Mid Tier project (Last Updated: 13-01-2012)

[Nidtendofreak]

The second one appears to be the most logical set to me.

 

[Poltergust]

I don't know. I think the first one works better. The number of entrants is a major factor, yes, but it also depends on who you beat. You could come across an easy bracket and place higher than you normally should have. That would produce too much of an outlier if we use the second formula, but it seems more balanced in the first formula.

 

[Flayl]

When you guys are talking about "first" and "second" are you counting the one in the OP or just the ones in that post?

 

[Poltergust]

I'm talking about the two in that post.

 

[Nidtendofreak]

Same.

And it's impossible to incorporate skill level of your opponents into this sort of system: too subjective. So why even try?

 

[Poltergust]

Well, the second formula is too extreme. I think the first one is good in that it boosts people who place high in large tournaments without giving them too many points in case they have an easy bracket.

 

[Nidtendofreak]

Having an easy bracket is a part of gathering lots of tournament results: it happens, but naturally balances itself out with more difficult brackets for that character as you gather more data.

 

[Sinister Slush]

The more I look at these two lists on post 80# and the few tournaments. List one is better to me.

 

[Nidtendofreak]

You Yoshi mains just like the list where Yoshi is higher

 

[Poltergust]

Darn it, he figured me out! D:

But really, I think the first formula is more balanced. Gives major boost for good placings at big tournaments while not giving such a huge boost to people with easy brackets.

 

[Zigsta]

I agree with option 1 as well.

 

[Z'zgashi]

Option one all the way across the sky

 

[Pierce7d]

This is decent project, but do not mix data between normal and low tier tourneys. I haven't read the thread yet though.

 

[Flayl]

You should probably do that before posting then >_>

 

[theeboredone]

So what's gonna happen to Ike assuming he moves up to mid-tier?

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=11222725#post11222725

Smash Con Queso 9/17/2010

Venue = 5. Singles = 10. Doubles = 5 per person
38 Entrants in Singles. 12 teams in Doubles.

Singles:
4th: Espy (Sonic)
5th. Poltergust (Yoshi)
9th. Bored (Ike.

Doubles: 3rd: Bored + Poltergust

 

[Espy Rose]

If Ike moves to mid-tier, then nothing should happen.
Sonic's in mid-tier.

 

[Flayl]

That characters that are in the lowest of the mid tier are still part of the project. If Ike somehow moves above that he's out of the project.

edit: Gonna update this tonight.

Added Smash con Queso and 3 other tournaments that I had posted the links here but then lost them when I accidentally changed the page. They're the tournaments posted in the CRL.

 

[Flayl]

Updated with London Monthlies 18/09/10

 

[YOSHssb]

Did you ever get this one Flayl?

Gamecon 2010
Entrants: 14
Fee: $10
Bracket: http://allisbrawl.com/brackets/bracket9288.gif
AiB link with rules: http://allisbrawl.com/ttournament.aspx?id=10585
September 4th at the Double Tree Hotel in Little Rock, Arkansas

Results:
1. YOSH ($98.00) (Yoshi)
2. Iori ($28.00) (Snake/DDD)
3. Mike ($14.00) (MK)
4. Saberguy (MK)
5. KirbyIRL (Marth)
5. Superwolf (Olimar/Wolf)
7. Seif (Marth)
7. Talon (Fox/ROB)

 

[Flayl]

Updating with:
SLAST v2
End of Summer Tourney 18/09
Gamecon 2010

Updated.

Wolf and Luigi are now part of the lowest mid tier, and thus, part of the project.

 

[Flayl]

Updated with a bunch of Luigi and Wolf results. Kain doing work.

 

[Z'zgashi]

If luigi is now good, then the UTAH 2 (this one you already added here: http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=11179819&postcount=79 ) has one more to add.

13: Rabbi Panda

 

[Flayl]

Last placers earn 0 points.

I'm going to update this now, will edit this post when I'm done.

edit: Added DNA Gaming #9
Next Level LAN Presents: Big Brawls (and Melees)
SBHMXXIV
Phase 14
DSO 13
Brawl in the Hall 2
Woodbridge VI (didn't add low tiers because of Ness)


Lost my internet conenction twice and went to do soemthing else in the mean time, but it's done.

 

[Z'zgashi]

Okay then. Ignore that last post.

 

[Flayl]

Added
Alajuelita Tourney 3
Lan Zone Tourney
HD: Remix
FGCU Smash Alpha
SIEGE 2010

I'm bound to miss a bunch of low tier mainers because nobody is posting their results =/

 

[YOSHssb]

Hobo 28 results are up. The full results can be found here:

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=288537

for low-tier highlights:

5th: Espy (Sonic)
13th: YOSH (Yoshi)
17th: Poltergust (Yoshi)
17th: Bored (Ike)
17th: Xyro (Samus)
25th: Deva (Link)
25th: Tesh (Sonic)
25th: Brettster (Ike)
33rd: OTL (Link)
33rd: ALSM (Link)
33rd: Zigsta (Bowser)
49th: Sigma (Ike)
49th: Tosm (Ike)
49th: Tallman (Lucas)
49th: Slush (Yoshi)

All of that is out of 64 people. There are low-tier results too, but I don't think you want those (however, they're on the results thread i linked if you do want them).

 

[Xyro77]

i have sent in a boat load of low tier tourney results can u update the front post?

 

[Flayl]

YOSH: thanks, I'm going to update this today when I get home with a bunch of other tournaments too.

Xyro: Ike and Ness aren't low tier.

 

[Flayl]

Added:
$up@ N0v@ Presents: IT'S OVER 9000!
Voodoo Smash on the Bayou II
Super DSO 3
TAS (Tornado Alley Smash)
AUSOM 2
Calebyte's Smash Bash 1
HOBO 28
KingKong Smashfest 1

Later tonight I'll see if there's enough data to do player rankings.

Tomorrow I'll go looking through the character boards and see if there are results people haven't posted so I can get mad at them (or post a reminder, one of those two)

 

[san.]

CEO X Storm

Ryo (Ike) got 4th out of 49

 

[heytallman]

I didn't go all Lucas at HOBO 28, I went ROB and Pikachu in a match, and Lucas in the other. But I ended up losing everything so does it really matter?

 

[Seagull Joe]

I have a lot of results, but am too lazy to go find em all.

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=288199

"Random Wolf" is me. I got 4th/16.

 

[Scabe]

Boost XVI
Sydney, Australia (In Person)
September 12, 2010
Brawl Singles: (Link) 5th out of 17
Entry fee: 5
Result: http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=11194961&postcount=7
Entry free rules thread: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=185358

 

[Flayl]

I didn't go all Lucas at HOBO 28, I went ROB and Pikachu in a match, and Lucas in the other. But I ended up losing everything so does it really matter?

Nope, it doesn't matter. For two reasons: You lost the matches with those characters, and you got last place, which earns 0 points.

Just to clarify in the future, if you do use high tier characters but lose ALL matches with them and yet win matches with Lucas, you can submit your result as if you only played Lucas. Win 1 match with a high tier though and you can't.

CEO X Storm

Ryo (Ike) got 4th out of 49

Didn't find ruleset anywhere.

I have a lot of results, but am too lazy to go find em all.

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=288199

"Random Wolf" is me. I got 4th/16.

I'm not going to add that unless you give me the entry fee and a link to the ruleset.

Added:
Hall of Gaming #1
Phoenix Brawl 4
Lost 7
Robocop


Waiting for MLG DC character listings before I update the thread.

 

[Xyro77]

Extra Life
Houston, Tx (In Person)
October 16, 2010
Entry fee: 10$
Result:http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=289169



2vs2 Mid Tier

SPLIT 1: Trela+Xyro==+
SPLIT 2: Gnes+Ozz==+
3: Jerm+Razer==+
4: Rt+Kalo==+
5: Jon+Tosm==/+
5: Leaf+Sync==+
7: Illmatic+P4==+



Regular 1vs1


SPLIT 1: Gnes==/
SPLIT 2: Ultimate Razer==
3: Ozz==//
4: Jerm==
5: Trela==
5: Jon==/
7: Xyro==/
7: Illmatic==
9: P4==
9: Leaf==
9: Sync==
9: Rt==
13: Tosm==
13: Graf_Nik==:shiek:
13: Kalo==




The people that "split" only split the MONEY. We DID play out the final matches so the players that have 1st by their names EARNED first

 

[Flayl]

Dude, that's a ****ing charity event.

 

[Xyro77]

Dude, that's a ****ing charity event.

400 dollars was paid out to the winners. charity or not. we paid money to get in and won money from winning.

 

[Flayl]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=11262850#

Where in there does it say there's a 400$ pot?

Not that it matters anyway, I took a look at the characters and nobody would have earned any points.

 

[Xyro77]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=11262850#

Where in there does it say there's a 400$ pot?

Not that it matters anyway, I took a look at the characters and nobody would have earned any points.

im the TO and im tellin you that there was 400$cash given out. but now u wont accept it. sweet

 

[rPSIvysaur]

Nope, it doesn't matter. For two reasons: You lost the matches with those characters, and you got last place, which earns 0 points.

Just to clarify in the future, if you do use high tier characters but lose ALL matches with them and yet win matches with Lucas, you can submit your result as if you only played Lucas. Win 1 match with a high tier though and you can't.

did you read this Xyro?