It has to be tourney-going, because those people have seen top-level play firsthand most of the time.
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KGD - The Kewkky Thread! - Kirby's Wasteland: Dead Social
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Lord Viper
SS Rank
Figured you'll say that. )= ★ I'll be going back to playing Brawl tournaments when I get a better car. ★ Because some people need to be remind how great my Kirby is. )=< Edited: I do hope to learn more about Diddy Kong and Toon Link match ups, I haven't played anyone that's good with those characters in a while. ★ 
MK26
Smash Master
fffffffffffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu- wait yes you were
and i just noticed that most of you posted pics of yourselves in the op
wuts up with dat
dont you know there are crazy people on the internet
Don't make me infract you! Really? o_O I don't remember... Maybe I didn't have internet while you stopped coming? I don't remember a godbye post from you... o_O
Well hey, there's crazy people irl too and they see our faces everyday. :\
EDIT:
TaterSalad0811
Smash Lord
I'll miss A1 as well, and would surely take another break from lurking to drop a "haaiiii!" should he return, if only for a short period.
Also, I lerves Halo now. Realistic fps games, however, are still filed under 'FFFFFFUUUUUUU-' in my book.
Laterz.
Also, I lerves Halo now. Realistic fps games, however, are still filed under 'FFFFFFUUUUUUU-' in my book.
Laterz.
MK26
Smash Master
Yeah, I just went over my post history and its actually been 8 months since i was a regular poster...and i never had a goodbye post, i just sorta leftNo I wasn't, Kawaii Bunny was!
Really? o_O I don't remember... Maybe I didn't have internet while you stopped coming? I don't remember a godbye post from you... o_O
Well hey, there's crazy people irl too and they see our faces everyday. :\
and tbh i dont really think i want to stay
but while im here kewk can you tell me what title this post is referring to?
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=10102098#post10102098
C~Dog
Smash Champion
Take that Zelda crap outta here!
Kirby's where it's at!and metroid
Kirby's where it's at!
i remember that boss in Majora's Mask... I loved the ocarina tune and the stone temple's theme. One of the best in any Zelda game!
MK26
Smash Master
Can't you like look at the post history of the op (ie click Last Edited by Xiivi at the bottom of the op), or does that not show titles?Dang... I haven't the slightest idea.
*failed to meet MK26's expectations*
*did not give up without a fight*
Ugh, fine, making me use my mod powers...
This was your post:
This was the title: said:
Youuuu
EDIT: Forgot to mention... I'd like the tourney-going kirbies to give me their thoughts on these 5 MUs now (Wolf, Sonic, Ike, Ness, Sheik). Small summaries is good, doesn't matter how small they are, just need their opinions backed up by something. After these, it's one more batch, and then I'm done. :D
MK26
Smash Master
Now Kewk, have you learned your lesson? Will you try to attain ultimate arcane mod powers again? Good.
lol thnx
EDIT: assuming the title actually was changed to "Down For Maintenance - Love, Agora Games"
lol thnx
EDIT: assuming the title actually was changed to "Down For Maintenance - Love, Agora Games"
It was. Glad you did some of the work too!
@ Kappy: I don't have a cellphone, so i can't do that kind of stuff...
And about the summaries: it's okay if you don't write up anything or give an opinion. Remember, we have a nice number of tourney-going kirbies around!
@ Kappy: I don't have a cellphone, so i can't do that kind of stuff...
And about the summaries: it's okay if you don't write up anything or give an opinion. Remember, we have a nice number of tourney-going kirbies around!
MK26
Smash Master
somebody please link me to this mysterious hup-canceling...
MK26: As Kirby, jump. AS SOON AS you're about to land, dair. Works everywhere, in every platform/part of the stage, and chains into anything you try to do.
MK26
Smash Master
so dair's autocancel window extends to after the hitbox has come out? awesome!
EDIT: or does it just autocancel immediately, play the sound, and give no increase in lag?
EDIT: or does it just autocancel immediately, play the sound, and give no increase in lag?
Sage JoWii
Smash Champion
No increase in lag, it's a mindgame.
I'll post the matchup info I know after my shower.
I'll post the matchup info I know after my shower.
Sage JoWii
Smash Champion
Wolf- I'd say Kirby probably has a slight advantage in this one at the highest levels of play. Wolf's strongest assests or his followups and janky aerial game. In addition to this Wolf is able to kill Kirby fairly easy and the only worry is having to recover. Kirby has to stay grounded and mobile. If you can get the grab you auto start off with a 35% lead so it's just a matter of getting Wolf in the air without his double jump and punishing the landing. That's the whole matchup. Trying to get Wolf in the air/ recovering.
Sonic- Even-ish. Maybe slightly in Sonic's favor IMO. For now, I'll say it's even. Sonic is a difficult MU in that, 'you can't kill, what you can't hit', but when you DO hit, you can land a good chunk of damage to compensate for the chase. The things to be wary about is the spindash and all it's mixups, the FSmash/pivotFSmash, and the aerial combo game. Spindash is Sonic's primary damage racker while Kirby is grounded. One Kirby is in the airm Sonic can chase Kirby w/ UAirs and FAirs (or even land a BAir to kill). If Kirby is trying to land, playing unsafe, or getting aggro, Sonic can space and read in order to land the FSmash for a kill or an UThrow for a UAir kill. Safely spacing and reading Sonic is the key to landing damage. Any damage helps, and any opportunity to land a FSmash should be taken. I find DSmash to be the best kill move as it takes Sonic out @ 120%ish of the top. There aren't too many great Sonics, but there's a VERY clear difference between a good Sonic and a great Sonic.
Ike- FThrow>UAir>UTilt>BAirX2. OR FThrow>UAir>Bthrow>bufferedBAirX2 (if they have bad/no DI). This sets the matchup with 40+% on Ike from the get go. After that Kirby can crouch camp. Crouch camp? Crouch camp. Most of Ike's approaches are beaten by crouching. Jab? Lawl>crouch. I won't waste too much time on this MU. It's slight advantage for Kirby because even though Kirby can stop approaches, kill reasonably well and gimp, Ike still gets ridiculous kills. Don't underestimate Ike's kill power. If Kirby gets the lead, play super safe, grounded and slowly rack damage to stall.
Ness- I've never had too much trouble against this MU tbh. I'd say it's slight advantage/clear advantage for Kirby. I'm not leaning in either direction since I haven't played Shaky yet. FAir, PK Fire, BThrow and BAir are the notable tools in Ness' arsenal. PSing and baiting aerials is the best way to go as punishing landings and cooldown is an easy way to rack damage. The gimp is what makes this difficult for Ness; if Ness combos to 23452458034% and then gets gimped, it matters very little all the work Ness has to do to. The worst part about fighting Ness is BThrow being a guaranteed kill; but that's easily managed by camping and spacing at higher percents.
Sheik- I'm not even gonna bother. Kirby wins.
Sonic- Even-ish. Maybe slightly in Sonic's favor IMO. For now, I'll say it's even. Sonic is a difficult MU in that, 'you can't kill, what you can't hit', but when you DO hit, you can land a good chunk of damage to compensate for the chase. The things to be wary about is the spindash and all it's mixups, the FSmash/pivotFSmash, and the aerial combo game. Spindash is Sonic's primary damage racker while Kirby is grounded. One Kirby is in the airm Sonic can chase Kirby w/ UAirs and FAirs (or even land a BAir to kill). If Kirby is trying to land, playing unsafe, or getting aggro, Sonic can space and read in order to land the FSmash for a kill or an UThrow for a UAir kill. Safely spacing and reading Sonic is the key to landing damage. Any damage helps, and any opportunity to land a FSmash should be taken. I find DSmash to be the best kill move as it takes Sonic out @ 120%ish of the top. There aren't too many great Sonics, but there's a VERY clear difference between a good Sonic and a great Sonic.
Ike- FThrow>UAir>UTilt>BAirX2. OR FThrow>UAir>Bthrow>bufferedBAirX2 (if they have bad/no DI). This sets the matchup with 40+% on Ike from the get go. After that Kirby can crouch camp. Crouch camp? Crouch camp. Most of Ike's approaches are beaten by crouching. Jab? Lawl>crouch. I won't waste too much time on this MU. It's slight advantage for Kirby because even though Kirby can stop approaches, kill reasonably well and gimp, Ike still gets ridiculous kills. Don't underestimate Ike's kill power. If Kirby gets the lead, play super safe, grounded and slowly rack damage to stall.
Ness- I've never had too much trouble against this MU tbh. I'd say it's slight advantage/clear advantage for Kirby. I'm not leaning in either direction since I haven't played Shaky yet. FAir, PK Fire, BThrow and BAir are the notable tools in Ness' arsenal. PSing and baiting aerials is the best way to go as punishing landings and cooldown is an easy way to rack damage. The gimp is what makes this difficult for Ness; if Ness combos to 23452458034% and then gets gimped, it matters very little all the work Ness has to do to. The worst part about fighting Ness is BThrow being a guaranteed kill; but that's easily managed by camping and spacing at higher percents.
Sheik- I'm not even gonna bother. Kirby wins.
Triple R
Smash Lord
I finally got skype!!! finally.... lol my skype name is just randall.reinart When were we planning on having the Kirby skype chat again?
Oh yeah and I'll try to think of summaries in a little bit
Oh yeah and I'll try to think of summaries in a little bit
Triple R
Smash Lord
Wolf: Even - I don't have too much experience with this matchup, played Kain a couple of times and that was about it. Kill moves to watch our for are dsmash, fair and fresh bairs. Just wait and punish landings. This match can get out of hand if you let it, since Wolf is a fast character that can rack up damage decently. Destroy him with utilts at low percents and get him off the stage with grabs and bairs afterwards.
Sonic: Even - This one I really don't have experience on. There was a sonic in MN but they he moved away.... Just be patient I guess :/
Ike: Slight Advantage - I still get to aggro in this matchup, but I feel like it's in Kirby's favor. If you must approach his retreating fairs, the only way you can punish it is to powershield it, even then you may still eat a jab. Don't land next to him when getting back on stage, his smashes will destroy your airdodges and kill you depressingly early. Other than that he'll probably try to kill you with bair since that comes out pretty quick from out of shield.
Ness: Slight Advantage - I used to play a ness all the time. It can be an annoying matchup cause his fair is a god in itself. If you get hit with PK fire DI outta it, it's really easy. Obviously don't get grabbed at high percents. Luckily his grab range is fairly small too. Other kill moves include uair and bair. Gimping him should be a huge priority. If all else fails you could always block his PK thunder with your body if your close enough. I mean the ball not the body XD. Though I suppose if you have a stock lead and it will slow his body so he doesn't grab the ledge, why not? Take him to Yoshi's Story. The walled underpart of the stage, gary (ghost platform), and the shy guys will all mess up his recovery and possibly kill him.
Sheik: slight advantage - I wouldn't sleep on a good sheik. Even if we are floaty her ftilt can lead into a nasty usmash, and her dacus usmash may be hard to see coming if you don't play sheiks often. She may try to camp with needles, just jump over them. Our throw combos don't work perfectly on her so experiment. Dthrow into possible utilts is the safest thing to try. If you get her with an utilt at low percent same thing as wolf, ****. Watch out for her up b as a surprise kill move too. If you play normal and smart should be an easier win.
Sonic: Even - This one I really don't have experience on. There was a sonic in MN but they he moved away.... Just be patient I guess :/
Ike: Slight Advantage - I still get to aggro in this matchup, but I feel like it's in Kirby's favor. If you must approach his retreating fairs, the only way you can punish it is to powershield it, even then you may still eat a jab. Don't land next to him when getting back on stage, his smashes will destroy your airdodges and kill you depressingly early. Other than that he'll probably try to kill you with bair since that comes out pretty quick from out of shield.
Ness: Slight Advantage - I used to play a ness all the time. It can be an annoying matchup cause his fair is a god in itself. If you get hit with PK fire DI outta it, it's really easy. Obviously don't get grabbed at high percents. Luckily his grab range is fairly small too. Other kill moves include uair and bair. Gimping him should be a huge priority. If all else fails you could always block his PK thunder with your body if your close enough. I mean the ball not the body XD. Though I suppose if you have a stock lead and it will slow his body so he doesn't grab the ledge, why not? Take him to Yoshi's Story. The walled underpart of the stage, gary (ghost platform), and the shy guys will all mess up his recovery and possibly kill him.
Sheik: slight advantage - I wouldn't sleep on a good sheik. Even if we are floaty her ftilt can lead into a nasty usmash, and her dacus usmash may be hard to see coming if you don't play sheiks often. She may try to camp with needles, just jump over them. Our throw combos don't work perfectly on her so experiment. Dthrow into possible utilts is the safest thing to try. If you get her with an utilt at low percent same thing as wolf, ****. Watch out for her up b as a surprise kill move too. If you play normal and smart should be an easier win.
saviorslegacy
My avater is not a Sheik avatar.
Kirby mains, your input is greatly desired:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=293219
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=293219
Fuujin
Smash Champion
chewy you dont even use kirby gtfo
Sage JoWii
Smash Champion
Chue, hup cancel by cancelling your hup.
fromundaman
Henshin a go-go Baby!
Wolf: I agree with everything you said, although I haven't played it much, being the best Wolf I have met (not that I've met many). Just keep in mind that DownB makes punishing landings safer (has no lag when you land with it, so long as you use it at least a SH distance up, but if he whiffs it you can punish after the few frames invul).
Sonic: It's been a while since I've done this MU. Keep in mind you can SDI out of Uair if you get hit by the 1st hit, and Uthrow>Uair can't hit if you DI the Uthrow right. Also he springs out of combos.
Ike: Here's the biggest one. Crouching does NOT avoid anything Ike has practically. He can jab you out of it, all his tilts, smashes and all but Uair and Bair beat it. His SideB might be the only special that doesn't too. Pretty much everything RRR said too. Ike's not too hard, but he can be a pain if you don't play it right. Oh, and don't try to hit him out of Aether from behind. I have no idea why, but Bair trades and you get spiked.
Ness: Pretty much what RRR said again. Make sure you know how PKT2 moves, because a failed gimp can mean a very early kill for Ness. If he tried to PKT while you're way above him, stone is completely safe. His jab is kind of annoying, but nothing like Lucas' (God I HATE Lucas' jab).
Shiek: lol@Shiek. Shiek is to Kirby what Ness is to Mario, only a bit worse still. Basically to lose this MU, you either have to not have played a good shiek before/not know what a good shiek CAN do, or be seriously outplayed. Also a Shiek who has perfected chain jacketing would probably make this MU even, but I don't think there are any who have.
All her kill options lose to inhale (unless she hits you with Ftilt>Usmash, but that only works if Ftilt is completely decayed) except UpB (Watch for that move if she runs off a platform at you. Odds are she's invincible and about to go boom.), and inhale means free footstool. In fact, just about her entire moveset but chain and needles lose to inhale, which is a free kill. Oh, and if you get hit with chain, DI above her and buffer stone: It's guaranteed.
Fsmash also beats out pretty much her entire moveset, she has a blind spot below her (pretty much has to FF Nair or risk huge Dair lag), which is a huge disadvantage against us.
Yeah, it's bad. Tutu refused to play that MU in friendlies against me, despite the fact I had just gone Wolf on his shiek (obv. he ***** it. That MU is dumb) XD It's that bad.
Pretty much just quoted you for the Ike stuff actually, and to make some of my summaries shorter.
This is why you are awesome.
Sage JoWii
Smash Champion
You can crouch Jab. And you can react with roll or DTilt from crouch to Ike's jab.
I try ;D
fromundaman
Henshin a go-go Baby!
Hmmm... I'll play against an Ike player again soon, so I'll try it out, but I could have sworn he jabbed me out of a crouch the other day, and then I stopped trying it.
Triple R
Smash Lord
So the tourney I was planning to go to today got canceled due to insane snow fall.... Luckily it was only a monthly. Kinda sucks cause MN hasn't had a tourney in a while. Good thing there is a tourney next weekend that I'm hoping weather doesn't mess with! lol
@TKbreezy
Follow me on Twitter!
actually went to a tourney this time...so i will have stuff to talk about 2morrow
2pm CST (3pm EST)
lets get it
also
@kappy where did you find that ringtone cuz i totally want it...that or noise he makes when he uses hammer
2pm CST (3pm EST)
lets get it
also
@kappy where did you find that ringtone cuz i totally want it...that or noise he makes when he uses hammer
fromundaman
Henshin a go-go Baby!
So Jowii, I officially apologize, you're right, you can crouch jab. >.<
Went to a tourny myself today. Sad at how low the turnout was. 50 planned on showing and only 18 did
Is it sad that as much fun as I had with Brawl, TvC became the highlight of my day?
Went to a tourny myself today. Sad at how low the turnout was. 50 planned on showing and only 18 did
Is it sad that as much fun as I had with Brawl, TvC became the highlight of my day?
MikeKirby
OTL Winrar
You can crouch jab...?
That would've made my life so much easier... I should go scope that crouch list again. T.T
That would've made my life so much easier... I should go scope that crouch list again. T.T
Remember, Kirby's crouch is the most intense crouch in the game. Also remember that when Kirby dtilts, he goes even lower than simply crouching (no joke)!
Ugh, I forgot the Skype chat! I don't even remember what I was doing... Sorry, people. D:
C~Dog
Smash Champion
Could we maybe do a different time some days? Today's was 7am for me. D:
