Jigglypuff=Worst Brawl Character?

[HiddenBowser]

Dude, pull that stick outta your *** and lighten up, like seriously, stop taking everything so personally.

 

[Ryazan]

There are times for being laid-back and times for being serious. I'm not always like this. I don't patronize people I argue with, so I don't joke when I argue with them.

 

[TheStig]

the thing that bugs me about jiggs is that her aerial priority is low

 

[JigglyZelda003]

the thing that bugs me about jiggs is that her aerial priority is low

what bothers me the most is that people like bowser can come up and give me a high 5 in the air when im JP

 

[White Pikmin]

jigglypuff has the fastest air movement in the game, that alone is enough to prove he/she isnt the worst

 

[desarcy]

Jiggly Puff doesn't have a nearly identical moveset to Kirby, and thus is not a clone. Her DSmash, DAir, and (not sure)Sidesmash are similar but that's like saying Ganon is a clone of Samus because they have a similar FSmash, (Not sure about brawl, but maybe UTilt too) and they both kick horizontally for their Nair. It's a pink ball with stubs for hands, and her DSmash is like a taunt in itself. She can sleep on you for a KO, she is not the worst char just because of that.

 

[rinoH]

her aerial priority isn't that bad i mean speed of her aerials

 

[HiddenBowser]

yes it is.

 

[Tyser]

Someone tell me why you think Jigglypuff has good priority. As far as I know, it's fu.cking HORRIBLE.

 

[TheStig]

i think some people maybe confuse her priority with the speed of her aerials? they come out kinda fast but if people attack at the same time jiggs will almost always lose.

 

[da K.I.D.]

im sorry did someone just cite air speed as a reason for being a good character?

I main sonic and by that logic he should be high tier.

how fast someone is really doesnt matter, they can go around the stage at the speed of light but if they cant approach with out getting punished, than its really just point less now isnt it

 

[KillaBunneh]

One good thing I notice about jigglypuff is that a lot of her arial attacks including pound last a good while with little lag before and after the attack. With great air control and timing, she could be very deadly at the air.

Also, her floatiness makes her unique, great for offense, defense, and a great mind game.

-For offense, she can stay in the air long enough to pull off multiple kicks. Unlike most characters, I believe that she is best when it comes to verticle movement. She has 5 jumps, and characters similar to her mutiple jump, she jumps the highest out of that bunch. I dont know if its true, but her hoizontal movement seems faster when she is in the air. With great hoizontal(???still questioned) and verticle movement, in my opinion, she has the best control out of any character which allows her to easily attack when opponents are most vulnerable and gives her the ability to juggle.

-As for defense, she is the hardest character to link attacks or chain grab. For example, I can hit jigglypuff and she will go flying at any percentage which will make it hard for me to link another attack, where for snake I can do multiple attacks on him and doing twice as much damage. So, for jigglypuff dying at such a low percentage someone doesnt matter because she can rack up damage faster if used correctly. Also, her great machinegun like kicks(attacks with little lag) makes it hard to hit her when shes vulnerable.

-Last about her floatiness is the mindgame where is she moving??? It will be hard to understand what direction is she going because in the air, she can move left right up and down(??? well not really her down movement is kinda slow??). Also, the very underated rollout is great on mind game when used in the air, too long to explain but the move comes out so fast that it is sometimes hard to notice.

Other than all the pros, jigglypuff can be send off flying at low percentages and a lot of her moves has little range with an ok priority. She also has no projectiles, unless you count rollout as one just cuz she turns into a cannon ball.

 

[Tenki]

^Yes, she moves and accelerates faster in midair.

I thought I was done with this thread, but I just realized that I was saying some points about Jigglypuff that were from the Sonic point of view.

Her aerials have high priority.

...compared to Sonic.

;D

happy?

 

[Flob]

Pound has good priority. It owns nearly every move. So if you think that your normal moves'll fail, just pound them to death! At least that is what I do...

 

[JigglyZelda003]

you can only rely on pound so much lol. its priority and clipping effect are very good though

 

[Ryazan]

If only Rising Pound were tournament legal...*sigh*

 

[illinialex24]

If only Rising Pound were tournament legal...*sigh*

Its legal as long as you don't stall with it...

 

[Ryazan]

Really? I did not know that. I thought it was banned because it gave Jiggly broken approach and horizontal recovery.

 

[illinialex24]

Really? I did not know that. I thought it was banned because it gave Jiggly broken approach and horizontal recovery.

Unless they have changed the rules, it was because you can go under the stage and just keep on doing rising pounds and since you barely lose any vertical incline (in melee it was none I believe). This is a very effective stall technique... and since tournaments have timed matches... once you go ahead a stock, Jigglypuff could just keep on doing that so she would eventually win...

 

[Ryazan]

I never even considered using it for that. I don't even have an inclination to try it, because it would make me lose respect for myself as a Smasher. But is it legal for other purposes, like the ones I brought up before?

 

[Tyser]

You thought Pound was banned/illegal? WTF are you smoking?

 

[Ryazan]

I thought RISING Pound was banned/illegal. Learn to read.

 

[illinialex24]

I am almost 100% sure. I learned about using it first as a stall tactic, and I learned that it was tournament banned in melee just for stalling, so I believe that is the same for Brawl. I believe thats the same reason why two Luigi's using B-Up is banned, because it effectively allows others to do nothing so they can win.

 

[Tyser]

Why would you think that unless you were a nub.

 

[Ryazan]

Ugh...I entered a couple tournaments as Jiggs and got my *** handed to me because I didn't know I was allowed to recover/approach with Rising Pound. My tournament record could have been so much better...

And I heard about it in the Melee section before Brawl came out, while I was a guest here.

 

[~^.NoiR.^~]

Worst? Naw, but shield grabs **** her. I think yoshi is pretty terrible. I can't decide on a worst though.

 

[Ryazan]

Yoshi is decent with practice. My least favorite, and the least favorite of anyone accustomed to his Melee playstyle, is Captain Falcon.

 

[JigglyZelda003]

CF is considered as of now the worst character in brawl. Yoshi's just still at the bottom like Link...

 

[Jigglymaster]

Its sad, I like Yoshi as a character and I would play him more often if he wasn't so bad. Hes just so weak and his smashes seem like they do nothing.

 

[JigglyZelda003]

Yoshi isn't bad he's just underaverage w/o anything special to make him stand up with someone like MK or even mario.

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=149606&page=137 this link explains more about Yoshi look at Fawriels post

 

[rinoH]

his second jump bothers me a lot when i play as yoshi

 

[Camalange]

I agree! Omg it's like that with every character that you have to practice a little bit. That's why no one hates Ike!

I hate Ike. He's a n00b character

 

[rinoH]

how is ike a noob character he is sooooooooooooooooooooo slow

 

[JigglyZelda003]

Ike is considered a noob character cause most noobs pick him until they can't hit anyone anymore lol. his slowness is irrelevant its his power that counts to noobs. besides him and snake how many other characters can KO relatively effectively with just A? >_>

 

[TheStig]

after some playing today, i'm pleased to annouce that jiggs has higher priority aerials than captain falcon

 

[JigglyZelda003]

really? well thats good to know 1pt to JP lol

 

[choknater]

What are people talking about... Jigglypuff is really good and I tend to destroy ROB players with Jigglypuff.

Find her strength in matchups, not individual qualities, or lack thereof.

She has some really strong matchups. I'm not saying ROB is a good one, I'm just saying I tend to do well at it. Matchups are where you must find her strengths.

Gosh, believe in your character, people.

 

[~^.NoiR.^~]

What are people talking about... Jigglypuff is really good and I tend to destroy ROB players with Jigglypuff.

Find her strength in matchups, not individual qualities, or lack thereof.

She has some really strong matchups. I'm not saying ROB is a good one, I'm just saying I tend to do well at it. Matchups are where you must find her strengths.

Gosh, believe in your character, people.

Believing in a character doesn't make them good lol

you should all go pick up Diddy :]

 

[JigglyZelda003]

i still think JP is good its just hard to win with her at times...

 

[Trapt497]

There is no worst character. Tiers don't exist. ANY character in brawl, whether it be sonic, jigz, peach, etc, no matter how much they are trashed, can be one of the best characters in the game if the controller is put in the right hands. Every character has its own advantages and flaws. Sure, one may have more advantages than the other, but every character can be great if its pros are taken advantage of.

I used to think jigz sucked too. Then I played my friend. Tiers don't exist.