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[ぱみゅ]

Careful; it may not seem like it but it is in fact punishable if misused. But yeah I ****ing love Fsmash.

Title idea: "ITT: We make metaknight MORE broken"

I'd use if for scape some kinds of pressure, not for random spam.
I still love it, tho...

Title could also be "MK's Gameplay Thread: Sharing tips to become da bess"
Or something that includes "Galaxia" somewhere.

 

[Exdeath]

Technically MK has multiple guaranteed punishes on Fsmash hitting block.

 

[Kaffei]

You mean in the ditto? I lold

 

[demonictoonlink]

You mean like grab if you're really close and that's it?

Maybe ftilt kinda works. Or Dtilt? I think that's just the other MK not holding shield though.

 

[Exdeath]

Gliding into the ground as a mix-up so that you slide past your opponent is pretty good (it's rather gimmicky, though). If they don't attack you before you hit the ground, grab OoS shouldn't get you and you can react to their option from there. If they grab or spot-dodge, get-up attack. If they do anything else, you can either get-up and time the invincibility frames or roll away. It's mostly just a gimmick, but I haven't been punished for doing yet. Don't over-use it.

 

[Kaffei]

wanna know the stupidest gimmick ever?

you GSL, and if you whiff it, you glide into the ground (so your face is flat on the ground; like you know how if you glide into the ground without canceling it you can get up, get up roll, or get up attack) and then u get up attack and they cant hit you in the invincibility frames

lololololololololololl

 

[-LzR-]

And it actually works lol.

 

[Orion*]

i do that Very rarely against Good people because they expect a smart option LOOL

 

[Staco]

I just thought about buffering short hop UAir to punish another MK using tornado at low %.
Gives him a lot of damage, if you follow up with more UAirs.

Don´t know, if it works well against tornado, need to test that.

Theorycrafting, yay.

 

[Orion*]

buffering uair after.... what? LOOL

 

[Staco]

buffering uair after short hop
its so underused

diddy is able to sh uair marth out of a banana lock xD (don´t know about other characters)


retreating fsmash = using the fsmash as a deffensive move, right?

 

[Player-4]

I think MKs should start using Uair > Dair out of Glide Attack at low percents, it seems to lead into more follow ups and does the same amount of damage

 

[Staco]

I think MKs should start using Uair > Dair out of Glide Attack at low percents, it seems to lead into more follow ups and does the same amount of damage

I think they should start using Glide Attack to Footstool to Nair to DTilt Lock. ;D

 

[Kaffei]

staco y do u copy everything of me ***** >:o

 

[Player-4]

staco y do u copy everything of me ***** >:o

LMAO he does

but ***** you copy M2K

 

[Kaffei]

yea... true.






=D

 

[Staco]

staco y do u copy everything of me ***** >:o

? xD
10 imconfuseds

 

[BluePeachy100]

I think MKs should start using Uair > Dair out of Glide Attack at low percents, it seems to lead into more follow ups and does the same amount of damage

i do it to start my ****ty uair strings, also glide attack > grab
lol

 

[Orion*]

how do you approach peach lol

idc enough to think about it

i know how to gimp/**** her offstage juggle but. yeah if i dont want to just camp until she messes up its kinda annoying. its hard to do the rush m2k status 3 stock, illmatic/nicole just bait the whole time when i play them in friendlies

pro tippyz

 

[Kaffei]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR31dxDB2DI

lol idk

 

[z00ted]

a new era is upon us.

Metaknights everywhere will now lose to Illmatic and Nicole....wahahahhahahaha

 

[Kaffei]

 

[Budget Player Cadet_]

How do you **** peach offstage? I keep on missing the gimps for some reason...

 

[-LzR-]

I guess you gotta eat fer Float and dair her away and then it's kinda done. Don't let her go under the ledge, her parachute has crazy priority.

 

[etecoon]

yeah, her umbrella straight up beats anything you will throw at it unless you have ledge invincibility, and because she can float she can stall that out most of the time. stay below her where possible, her dair will beat shuttle loop but if she throws it out carelessly you can hit her during the cool down frames

 

[-LzR-]

Pretty much anything beats shuttle loop.

 

[Kaffei]

Shuttle Loop has garbage priority, lol.

 

[Staco]

If I fair Marths shield (spaced fair, just the tip of the fair hits it) is Marth able to instant up b me?
If yes, is Marth able to do this on reaction or does he have to do it early, so that I can bait it and punish?

 

[Orion*]

that peach was free

and m2k didnt look like he knew what he was doing either

hes just m2k XD

 

[Orion*]

If I fair Marths shield (spaced fair, just the tip of the fair hits it) is Marth able to instant up b me?
If yes, is Marth able to do this on reaction or does he have to do it early, so that I can bait it and punish?

if he powershields i know he can punish it, iunno about regular shielding

but tbh id like someone to test that as well fuu

 

[Budget Player Cadet_]

So this german doucheba-ORION IS BBR??? WHAT THE ****???

Anyways, as I was saying, this german douche bag says that I not only am completely repetitive, but I don't know how to approach. I'm not seeing either of those two things. In case it's not clear, he completely stomps my ****. What do?

 

[etecoon]

pretty sure fair is almost always if not always punishable by DS OOS, MK can barely retreat and DS has frame 1 invincibility so he doesn't even need to wait for your cooldown frames. someone should test that though

 

[-LzR-]

Retreat the fair and then it shouldn't work?

 

[Staco]

pretty sure fair is almost always if not always punishable by DS OOS, MK can barely retreat and DS has frame 1 invincibility so he doesn't even need to wait for your cooldown frames. someone should test that though

I´m speaking about the tip off the fair.
I really don´t know, if up b goes through.
I think I tested this once with Semifer and it worked from time to time, not sure though.

Are you speaking about me BPC? Oo

 

[Kaspall]

MetaKnight Uprising :S

I have been trying to find out how to master the technique where you get the opponent to decent percentage, throw him in the air, keep using Uair, and then press B special a few times to do the tornado but fly up a good distance bringing your opponent out of the top of the screen. Any help please?

 

[-LzR-]

That **** doesn't even work against a bot, don't even try it ever.

 

[Exdeath]

I have been trying to find out how to master the technique where you get the opponent to decent percentage, throw him in the air, keep using Uair, and then press B special a few times to do the tornado but fly up a good distance bringing your opponent out of the top of the screen. Any help please?

Your opponent can air dodge through it, so you need to predict their air dodge (or lack thereof) and then jump>B. This requires that you be spaced accordingly, however. Fast-fallers are, ironically enough, the best at avoiding B at the end.

 

[Grump]

I have been trying to find out how to master the technique where you get the opponent to decent percentage, throw him in the air, keep using Uair, and then press B special a few times to do the tornado but fly up a good distance bringing your opponent out of the top of the screen. Any help please?

You could try swapping to the claw hand (pulling the index finger down over Y, moving your middle finger to cover R and Z), and jump+upC-stick as needed, then move the thumb up to push B. I mean it doesn't cover the prediction aspect of the combo, but it DOES make the movements more fluid and natural which can help in pulling them off as far as technique goes.

 

[-LzR-]

Or just use tapjump like the pros do.

 

[Orion*]

Or just use tapjump like the pros do.

i use tap jump. i wish i used claw though so much better

i always debate switching :/