Whole lot of posts this past day. Trying to build my new PC lol. My first time doing it for myself without helping someone.
Ryo and Pikpik thinks that Ike v Pika is Ike advantage, but I still think it's even.
Pika has ~ a 0-40 CG, and a 0-60 CG at the ledge I believe.
Pika is one of the characters we can jab to utilt, so that's always an option.
Pika has a lot of trouble getting around Ike's nair wall offensively, especially because of Pika's poor grab range.
More often than not, you won't see the CG more than once or twice, since it's much easier for pika to get hits in with quick uairs. Getting jabbed is also surprisingly annoying for pika.
About DDD, sorry Brett but I don't see how DDD can gimp Ike better than like... Peach or G&W or something. I think I'll have an infinitely easier time gimping Ike with Jigglypuff or MK than DDD.
It's true that DDD is spike bait, but that is in conjunction with DDD's crappy upB that can be hit with any of Ike's aerials/smashes or even easier with aether. It was kinda sad to see Nys spam aether at the ledge on DDDs.
The thing that makes it DDD's edge in the MU is that DDD can CG us after 70. If DDD gets a grab at mid % or higher, that's a good 40-50% worst case scenario. Ike can contend though.
DDD and oli can be -1 or -2. Oli is such a jagged MU (Ike gets messed up away, oli gets messed up close by) just give it a number and call it a day lol.
Ryo and Pikpik thinks that Ike v Pika is Ike advantage, but I still think it's even.
Pika has ~ a 0-40 CG, and a 0-60 CG at the ledge I believe.
Pika is one of the characters we can jab to utilt, so that's always an option.
Pika has a lot of trouble getting around Ike's nair wall offensively, especially because of Pika's poor grab range.
More often than not, you won't see the CG more than once or twice, since it's much easier for pika to get hits in with quick uairs. Getting jabbed is also surprisingly annoying for pika.
About DDD, sorry Brett but I don't see how DDD can gimp Ike better than like... Peach or G&W or something. I think I'll have an infinitely easier time gimping Ike with Jigglypuff or MK than DDD.
It's true that DDD is spike bait, but that is in conjunction with DDD's crappy upB that can be hit with any of Ike's aerials/smashes or even easier with aether. It was kinda sad to see Nys spam aether at the ledge on DDDs.
The thing that makes it DDD's edge in the MU is that DDD can CG us after 70. If DDD gets a grab at mid % or higher, that's a good 40-50% worst case scenario. Ike can contend though.
DDD and oli can be -1 or -2. Oli is such a jagged MU (Ike gets messed up away, oli gets messed up close by) just give it a number and call it a day lol.