Ike Boards General/Q&A Thread

[camerino1]

I read something about Ike having an infinite, I don't look up a whole lot of stuff but that seems a bit much. If so, how? I know about his forward chain grab, but that stops for most characters at about 140-160.

 

[Berserker Swordsman]

Infinite may be exaggerated, but san figured out that you can use a BThrow CG on a single wall similar to this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mL35CKmYzc4

 

[Nysyarc]

Ike doesn't technically have an infinite on any character. We can re-grab Squirtle after a grab release but obviously that involves moving forwards so it's not an infinite except against a tall enough wall but no legal stage has a wall that lasts indefinitely.

Maybe like a standing pivot-grab infinite on Wario if he's used his double-jump? I dunno, seems like even if that were possible it'd be ridiculously impractical. Nothing else even close to an infinite comes to mind.

 

[camerino1]

Ahhh, alrighty that. I haven't ever played against another Ike before (that was even good enough to take off 1-stock). So all I have is what I teach myself, people either hate playing me because I'm so awkward, or destroy me (only 1 person can though)...

 

[Teh Brettster]

We can grab release infinite Wario.... how do you now remember this?

 

[Nysyarc]

We can grab release infinite Wario.... how do you now remember this?

Is it actually a standing infinite though or do we have to move? And can't he escape a re-grab if he still has his double-jump? Also the timing must be pretty strict.

 

[Blubolouis]

It's pretty f***ing hard too. I can't do it more than 5 times in a row. But it scares them
edit: it's a pivot grab infinite, he can't escape it if you have the right timing, even with his double-jump. release him, dash, pivot grab, rince, repeat.

 

[Teh Brettster]

We have to run under and pivot grab because the hitbox on our normal grab doesn't reach high enough. I think it's abouuuut a 2 frame leniency. But it's not AS bad as it sounds.

 

[Nysyarc]

Hmm, well it would still only work on certain stages. On Battlefield for example you'd have to initially grab him in the perfect spot between the platforms, and on Smashville the moving platform could screw it up.

 

[AN(M)ist]

come to think of it. no one has an infinite that works on all legal stages.

btw, anyone been caught in that stupid mk dtilt infinite? that thing is so ********.

 

[Blubolouis]

I'm pretty sure DDD's infinites on some poor low tiers works on all legal stages.

 

[san.]

Plan to get the vid up tomorrow. Had to present one of my 3 projects building a bpm counting plethysmograph and help write an ~ 18 page report and portfolio.

 

[Berserker Swordsman]

come to think of it. no one has an infinite that works on all legal stages.

btw, anyone been caught in that stupid mk dtilt infinite? that thing is so ********.

I dunno about in tournament, but I pulled it off in a friendly >.>

 

[Mr. Doom]

That MK dtilt infinite doesn't work on Ike. He goes too far when he gets hit by the dtilt. And besides, if you SDI towards the ledge, MK won't be able to roll behind Ike and continue the lock.

 

[Tech-Nelium the Shark]

The wario infinite it is frame perfect. You can buffer it i believe because that would be too fast so it's really hard to do. Ryo does it pretty consistently. The one where you have two frame window is a air release chain. You kinda just push the A-stick forward like you are walking and then wario is in a perfect place to grab again. Timing is easy for that one. He get a foot stool and/or Waft if you miss.

 

[Teh Brettster]

I just tested out of 8 credit hours of Spanish. All I know of Spanish is what I learned 5 years ago and haven't spoken since. All I did to prepare was look up verb conjugations for 5 minutes.

I'm so happy. 2 semesters and a couple thousand dollars traded for 30 minutes and 53 bucks.

 

[AN(M)ist]

Puedo usar Google para traducir una gran cantidad de idiomas.

No es perfecto, pero viable.

 

[Nysyarc]

Puedo usar Google para traducir una gran cantidad de idiomas.

No es perfecto, pero viable.

Well I speak French, not Spanish, but I got something along the lines of:

"Google can be used to translate a lot of languages; it's not perfect but it's feasible".

That's without using Google to translate of course.

 

[AN(M)ist]

que tiene toda la razón mi amigo.

 

[Berserker Swordsman]

Why am I seeing the devil's language on this page. Begone!

 

[-RedX-]

Why am I seeing the devil's language on this page. Begone!

What Bleach has taught me:
People who speak Japanese live in heaven while people who speak Spanish live in hell.

 

[jamlosingthegame]

The Devil's language is actually supposed to be backwards speech.

 

[YagamiLight]

What Bleach has taught me:
People who speak Japanese live in heaven while people who speak Spanish live in hell.

Moreover, paradise is apparently medieval Japan while hell seems to be a modern day Mexican desert except with a lot of random domes.

They also speak Japanese in hell as well, it's just that they sometimes pepper their speech with Spanish phrases. For authenticity.

 

[san.]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6uVaRpC_8Q

 

[Omari]

@san.:Thought you were turn around grabbing (that didn't make sense because your opponent would still be behind you). Are you buffering grabs or pivoting? Thanks & great find.

 

[Teh Brettster]

Thanks, San. I'll have to practice this sometime.

Oh, check it out. It's my post #2k.

This calls for a celebration.

 

[san.]

@san.:Thought you were turn around grabbing (that didn't make sense because your opponent would still be behind you). Are you buffering grabs or pivoting? Thanks & great find.

Boost pivot grab is the easiest method. You can run and quickly pivot grab but there's no guarantee you'll slide and it's harder.

 

[Berserker Swordsman]

That reminds me: did we ever do any of that discussion stuff we had planned around spring break? I'd still like to bring up a stage discussion at some point.

 

[jamlosingthegame]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6uVaRpC_8Q&t=2m15s I actually laughed a bit because of the cut before the dair connected. And at 2:36 is that water camping stuff you were talking about before right? Something about the frames of Ike's aerials ending faster because he hits water I think it was.

Congrats Brett I guess...?

 

[san.]

Yeah, I still have plans for it. College ***** me with plenty of work after spring break. Hopefully we can talk about it/play once I get back home.

The water camping thing isn't as great as I thought. I think the game forces higher hops like 3-4 times before the short portion. It's still funny. Aether in water will always be probably one of the best options in the water anyways when the person is above.

 

[M@v]

I play against way too many ike players.

 

[Berserker Swordsman]

I play against way too many ike players.

It's never too many if you're not winning 100% of the time. =)

 

[Mr. Doom]

Thanks San for linking us the video.

I know someone who wins against Ike 100% of the time. He said he'll never lose to Ike. .-. What have I done...

BTW, I went to the tournament and took 3rd in doubles. In singles, I have to play the guy who wins against Ike 100% of the time next in bracket... >_> *sigh*

 

[san.]

Oh nice! I forgot today was Saturday! What character, let us give Mr. Doom quick tips!

 

[theeboredone]

got 17/45 at the first TX circuit event. Lost to Nike and Poltergust.

 

[Teh Brettster]

Lost to Nike? I guess he really HAS gotten a lot better since last year.

 

[Mr. Doom]

Oh nice! I forgot today was Saturday! What character, let us give Mr. Doom quick tips!

Too late! He 2-0'd me. It's fine, really. He and I worked on the match-up something intense a long time ago. I took 7th. Then I played M2K. What a troll. -_-

 

[Berserker Swordsman]

Shoulda went Meta KnightFalcon.

 

[AN(M)ist]

my voice gives me super strength. but it also helps that i am wielding a giant sword

my hair fights for my friends

:D

 

[M@v]

It's never too many if you're not winning 100% of the time. =)

I play you all the time.

Then when I go home to Pittsburgh theres one player, Colaya. Guess who he plays. Oh wait you guys already know. Ike.

then I've played San,Ryo,and a couple other ikes 1 set a piece.