I know. I am a very bad player (at the moment). I'm working on getting better though, and I have been seeing improvement. I'm never going to completely drop Ganon.
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Q&A How to Wreck *****es with Ganon?- Linguini Q&A Thread
- Thread starter Linguini
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play fox / falco as an alt, it'll boost your ganon 
PseudoTurtle, can you tell me a bit about reads and baits ? Cases you notice and can take a nice advantage ?
Btw, i've been practicing my powershield, that stuff saved me so much against falcons
PseudoTurtle, can you tell me a bit about reads and baits ? Cases you notice and can take a nice advantage ?
Btw, i've been practicing my powershield, that stuff saved me so much against falcons
I've been messing around with pretty much every high tier as an alt for my Ganon/Mewtwoplay fox / falco as an alt, it'll boost your ganon
So far it goes something like:
Marth
Falco, Sheik/Fox
Puff/Falcon
Peach/ICs
My Falco and Fox would probably be a hell of a lot better than my Marth, but I am absolutely horrid at tech skill with them.
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Эикельманн [РУС]
Banned via Administration
sick strat that i use against spacies:
when near the ledge with your back towards the blast zone and you get a grab, cg forward or in neutral position until they di behind for a free ftilt, generally leading to death or edgeguard.
feels so good to get it off, too. requires a bit fast of reaction time if you want to do it at lower percents though.
also, good alts to improve ganondorf that i've personally used:
bowser
when near the ledge with your back towards the blast zone and you get a grab, cg forward or in neutral position until they di behind for a free ftilt, generally leading to death or edgeguard.
feels so good to get it off, too. requires a bit fast of reaction time if you want to do it at lower percents though.
also, good alts to improve ganondorf that i've personally used:
bowser
PseudoTurtle
Smash Champion
**** YOU RIPPLE!!! loooool I do better vs. your marth (55-45 marth), your falcon (65-35 falcon), fox (60-40 fox), falco (60-40 falco), your jiggs (60-40 jiggs), and your sheik (65-35 sheik) than against your roy (90-10 ganon) lol. Either you or I don't know how this game is supposed to work.still loses to roy
and Dero, idk how to really describe it completely, but it started happening recently. I actually recognize my opponent's patterns, and know what they will do next. In terms of baits, I remember running at ripple and he rolled towards me. The next time I was in that situation, I ran at him and dsmashed and he still rolled towards me; this was the stock. Or simply waiting for a double jump (by doing literally nothing). This is REALLY good to do vs. marth.
Also, I just know what will work in what situation better than before. Like when to CC and when not to.
I'm still not very good lol, but getting a lot better. Like at this point I may actually be able to take a couple of games off of the chicago smashers. I just recently started taking the occasional legitimate game off of Ripple. He still wins 90% of the time of course, but I'm getting there. Can't wait to get even better.
I played the best Roy in the world a few weeks back. Well, the best Roy main. Sethlon, the guys legit. Did pretty well vs him, although he did get a few games off me in his defense. Never thought a Roy would be able to make me sweat, but sure enough, he did.still loses to roy
Эикельманн [РУС]
Banned via Administration
agreeing with ripple.
PseudoTurtle
Smash Champion
I, on the other hand, am disagreeing with Ripple and calling him a fraud.
Nah, his roy is legit. Even kage didn't mess him up too bad
Nah, his roy is legit. Even kage didn't mess him up too bad
HoChiMinhTrail
Smash Master
I legit like the Falco matchup these days, its pretty fun.
HoChiMinhTrail
Smash Master
w/e, all the roy mains are trashI'm just as good as sethlon
Bl@ckChris
Smash Hero
you must be playing MDZ, trail.
Divinokage
Smash Legend
You want to lose to my Falco again?
Like I said I can't **** anybody but in the end I still win always. I'm a mimic.
Thanks PT That's pretty much what I was thinking
God, there's a hype tournament in paris in just 2 days, I got a lot better those last 5months playing Baxon every week but shiz, the level there is just gonna be too high for me this time.
I'm not even sure I could pass the pools this time, just hoping not to play against too many shieks
That's pretty much what I was thinking God, there's a hype tournament in paris in just 2 days, I got a lot better those last 5months playing Baxon every week but shiz, the level there is just gonna be too high for me this time.
I'm not even sure I could pass the pools this time, just hoping not to play against too many shieks
PseudoTurtle
Smash Champion
Good luck, man and yea no problem.
Hahahaha I have yet to make it out of pools even in a local tournament, but that will change quite soon. That being said, I can still say I beat andale in pools... because he ganon ditto'd me and then went falcon because I asked him to lmfao
Hahahaha I have yet to make it out of pools even in a local tournament, but that will change quite soon. That being said, I can still say I beat andale in pools... because he ganon ditto'd me and then went falcon because I asked him to lmfao
Эикельманн [РУС]
Banned via Administration
you guys ignored my di trap.
fine, keep losing to spacies.
fine, keep losing to spacies.
PseudoTurtle
Smash Champion
If I could chain grab spacies, this may be a more viable option for me. Unfortunately, I suck *** at the chain grab vs basically everyone, so I can't do this. But this is extremely smart Ian.
Try it for falcon too because ganon can chain grab falcon until he DIs behind.
Эикельманн [РУС]
Banned via Administration
i do it on falcons too. cg doesn't work the same vs falcon though.
PseudoTurtle
Smash Champion
shows what I know about this game lol
Divinokage
Smash Legend
Oh.. YOUR DI trap huh? lol.
DippnDots
Feral Youth
Yeah, Kage has that get pushed, push back harder mentality. He'll never beat anyone really good until they corner him. Then the warrior is unleashed! (I have no facts to back up any of this)
Kage Smash!
Kage Smash!
Эикельманн [РУС]
Banned via Administration
okay so if you SERIOUSLY do what i posted about, i honest to god had no idea.
i just started doing it and it's amazing.
LOL yeah I was **** riding pretty hard, but aside from being one of my best friends, he's also a pretty good player. At least it wasn't blind ****-riding.
Also, idk where all this extra hate came from though, like, pulled it out of thin air. Straight made up a persona for yourself to hate on LOL.
But wait, I thiiiiink I remember you. You might be that one player I ****ed up back at MLG playoffs in New York. The one I 4 stocked. If I'm wrong, my bad, there are a lot of people that go by "Ace".
Little England
Smash Master
How do you even remember that kind of stuff? lol
Эикельманн [РУС]
Banned via Administration
some of us have good memories.
spider_sense
Smash Champion
Are we doing money matches or what people? C'mon, talk to me guys. I just want to know whose paying for my dinner? Kage? Hugs? Guini?
-ACE-
Gotem City Vigilante
Actually hugs I was just wasted drunk and speaking my mind, didn't mean the added hate at all... but you gotta know how your own foot tasted after that verbal fellatio. Good God that was pathetic, no offense. I was surprised honestly. And no, you don't know me and have never played me. I'm sure that one Ace you 4 stocked was a very good player though, congrats.
-ACE-
Gotem City Vigilante
It's all good in the hood. At least you don't deny it lol. This isn't the first time I woke up and saw something like that posted on smashboards and said "damn I was druuuuuuuuunk last night" but I don't delete the post cause i'm like **** it it's smashboards LOL. No hard feelings seriously.
Bl@ckChris
Smash Hero
Wait so jason does this mean you're actually planning on going to a tournament?
Эикельманн [РУС]
Banned via Administration
yeah he finna get murked by this bowser #kappa
That Ace wasn't, he just chose to talk a lot of **** after I 4 stocked him to imply I wasn't good, so I remembered him, and put two together. Also from Tristate.
Also, I don't see what's so pathetic despite going a bit overboard. I'm a fan of his abilities, he's best player in the US, and my best friend. You say "pathetic" as if to put me in the same category as a fanboy. I'm accomplished enough with the game to sing someone's praises without being a fanboy. It's more a sign of mutual respect, not blind adoration.
Not to mention, I have the respect of the very people whose abilities I openly respect.
It's like saying Eminem is pathetic for being such a big Dr. Dre fan.
Violence
Smash Lord
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Renth
Smash Hero
The lameness around here lately is off the charts anyone got any new vids or something
PseudoTurtle
Smash Champion
+1. I'd really like to see some vids of you, Ian. By the sound of it, you're getting pretty good! We need more spidey and G. Vice vids as well, I haven't seen **** by any of you in the past year or so.
I'm gonna be playing a little bit with ripple today (~45 mins or so, class johns), and I can record if you want, but I'm not quite watchable for critique or anything just yet. Soon tho. Soon.
Эикельманн [РУС]
Banned via Administration
sorry going all bowser at the next tournament.
maybe one matchup i'll use ganondorf though. we'll see how i feel the day of.
maybe one matchup i'll use ganondorf though. we'll see how i feel the day of.
Divinokage
Smash Legend
Well no not really, going for a grab in that position seems rather rare since you are the one close to the ledge. I mean it is a good reversal but I dont really CG in the first place.
PseudoTurtle
Smash Champion
So I just got styled on for the last 40 minutes. Very glad I didn't record any of that lol. Maybe some of my tournament matches on saturday will be recorded and I play decently.
If your videos are an accurate representation of what your Roy can do, then I have to disagree with you. Sethlon as of 2009-2010, I would say I agree with your statement. But Sethlon as of 2 months ago when I played him applies far more smart pressure and has a far superior combo game.I'm just as good as sethlon
I suppose it is possible that your one of those players whose videos aren't a good indication of how good you are, but I didn't see anything out of the ordinary that separated you from just any solid player playing Roy against someone who's new.
Also, Dipp'n holding down my FF6 avatars, props!
Ripple
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I don't have any recent footage of my roy that's good aside from my set with tang at apex.
Also, he likes dair combos. I think they are pretty much worthless. But I FAR out class him in terms of pressure and offense
We have these discussions on the roy boards all the time
Also, he likes dair combos. I think they are pretty much worthless. But I FAR out class him in terms of pressure and offense
We have these discussions on the roy boards all the time