Greater Toronto Area Thread - The other other other other other other other other Pokemon Thread

[idea]

it's over several days. and i bet not everyone can come thursday...maybe a second group of travelers should be organized for coming on friday?

if that happens i'm not sure which i'll be in.

 

[Osman]

I highly doubt there would be a province wide strike in 2010. York TA's demanded to be paid as much as UofT TA's, I believe.

Don't be so sure. It's widely known that every major university in Toronto plans to strike in 2010, to apply pressure on the provincial government to increase funding for post-secondary education.

The York TAs demanded an X% pay increase over 2 years, while York countered with an X% increase over 3 years; the time frame was a point of contention, because if CUPE got their way, their legal contract with York would expire in 2010, strategically coinciding with the contract expiry of many other schools. If the TAs agreed to a 3 year contract, then they wouldn't legally be able to strike, and the biggest university in Ontario wouldn't be able to participate in the push for better funding.

 

[RaynEX]

What days is Julian doing this stuff.

I might make a thread for it and do He-man 2. EVERYONE DOWN!?!?

 

[Deleted member]

Link me - I still don't believe you.

However, let's just pretend you're right - every University in Ontario strikes. That wouldn't last long.

 

[Wang.]

I may or may not attend, depending if I get a ride or how the bus system works.

 

[Osman]

Link me - I still don't believe you.

However, let's just pretend you're right - every University in Ontario strikes. That wouldn't last long.

I did link you, click on "Don't be so sure" in my post. I would say my explanation of the TAs' demands was pretty good, but whatever.

You'd hope it wouldn't last long, but I do agree with you. How many kids go to university in Ontario? Hundreds of thousands? Knowing the government though, they'd be slow to act, and the eventual response would either be extremely controversial or inadequate.

 

[Santana]

add me on ur list 2 julian. btw i'm dat falcon dat kept taunting in da doubles matchup @ kyle's. i left early though cuz of parents -_-

Yea, I actually, specifically remember your taunting Falcon. What was your name again?

Osman - Friday
Paul? - Friday/Saturday
Ryan - All
Bernard - All
Europhoria
Anthony
Allen?
Kyle
David?
Imadh?
Peter - Friday?/Saturday
Stos
Marco?
Afro Chris - Saturday

Sorry if I'm forgetting people, just let me know if I am and I'll add you to the list.

K so, lots of maybes.

What days is everyone coming on? How many people can come Thursday? Cause if a lot can't make it, I'll probably say forget about Thursday.

Also, bring TVs/Cubes (need cubes more) and I need a copy of SSBM for my Wii, cause I'm using my SSBM in my cube.

Edit for Bernie: This is going down 5th or 6th (depends on if enough people show for Thursday) till 7th. Doesn't really matter how many crash for either night, but the floor might be cold/uncomfortable.

 

[Europhoria]

I highly doubt there would be a province wide strike in 2010. York TA's demanded to be paid as much as UofT TA's, I believe.

>_> Honestly, give them the money. Knowledge doesn't lose it's value based on where you get it. I don't buy into the prestige bull**** that people throw around

 

[RaynEX]

Yea, I actually, specifically remember your taunting Falcon. What was your name again?

Osman - Friday
Paul? - Friday/Saturday
Ryan - All
Bernard
Europhoria
Anthony
Kevin
Alex?
Allen?
Kyle
David?
Imadh?
Peter?
Stos
Marco?

Sorry if I'm forgetting people, just let me know if I am and I'll add you to the list.

K so, lots of maybes.

What days is everyone coming on? How many people can come Thursday? Cause if a lot can't make it, I'll probably say forget about Thursday.

Also, bring TVs/Cubes (need cubes more) and I need a copy of SSBM for my Wii, cause I'm using my SSBM in my cube.

Edit for Bernie: This is going down 5th or 6th (depends on if enough people show for Thursday) till 7th. Doesn't really matter how many crash for either night, but the floor might be cold/uncomfortable.

I'm staying the whole time too. Need Falcon practice.

 

[peterx]

^^ oh yeah srry Bernard, my mom is having ppl over tomorrow so my place is kinda off limits.

Yea, I actually, specifically remember your taunting Falcon. What was your name again?

Osman - Friday
Paul? - Friday/Saturday
Ryan - All
Bernard
Europhoria
Anthony
Kevin
Alex?
Allen?
Kyle
David?
Imadh?
Peter?
Stos
Marco?

Sorry if I'm forgetting people, just let me know if I am and I'll add you to the list.

K so, lots of maybes.

What days is everyone coming on? How many people can come Thursday? Cause if a lot can't make it, I'll probably say forget about Thursday.

Also, bring TVs/Cubes (need cubes more) and I need a copy of SSBM for my Wii, cause I'm using my SSBM in my cube.

Edit for Bernie: This is going down 5th or 6th (depends on if enough people show for Thursday) till 7th. Doesn't really matter how many crash for either night, but the floor might be cold/uncomfortable.

Count me in for Saturday, maybe friday as well.

 

[Osman]

I need Fox vs. Marth practice. I hope I won't be swamped with work that weekend, I wouldn't mind staying for a while, if that'd be ok.

As well, audio splicing is a beautiful thing.

 

[RaynEX]

LOL.

wow tigger is my hero.

 

[Osman]

If anyone on here appreciates some good hip hop beats, I wholeheartedly recommend you check this guy out. That's probably my favourite track by him, but he has so much good material. You wouldn't expect it, just by looking at him and hearing him speak.

 

[Santana]

I need Fox vs. Marth practice. I hope I won't be swamped with work that weekend, I wouldn't mind staying for a while, if that'd be ok.

As well, audio splicing is a beautiful thing.

Thanks Osman, I have another favourite YouTube video, it hurt laughing at that, lulz.

 

[KirbyKaze]

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=6362907&postcount=1322

Priority information wheeeeeeee

 

[Stos]

If anyone on here appreciates some good hip hop beats, I wholeheartedly recommend you check this guy out. That's probably my favourite track by him, but he has so much good material. You wouldn't expect it, just by looking at him and hearing him speak.

haha that was sick.

i have some hip hop beats in my profile haha but these beats leans more to "gangsta beat".
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=8IB0x9St6vQ
- I can do the first part he does, i actually like looked at the keys his pressing and such LOL. It took me sooo long to like get it down XD
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=1fjh4D3KmfI

im not gonna lie, this guy inspired me to get a keyboard.

 

[idea]

Doc's Tornado is terrible in terms of priority. First hit has no knockback. And I mean NO knockback. Like phantom hit no knockback. And the rest of the hits are slow. I don't know why you'd use it.

Anyway, I'm a little tired of explaining priority over and over again, and not many people seem to know how it works, so here's how it goes.

GROUND VS GROUND

Priority is simple here. If your attack is within eight damage of your opponent's, they will clank. If your attack is stronger, his attack will clank and yours will power through and vice versa. Disjointed hitboxes do not affect this.

GROUND VS AIR OR AIR VS AIR

Priority doesn't exist here. Both people will trade hits, unless you have a disjointed hitbox and your opponent's attack doesn't actually connect with your character.

PROJECTILES

Projectiles are always clankable, whether by an aerial or a ground attack.

k wait, so if my jiggs fairs and someone's fox nairs, in theory we should usually trade hits or fox's nair will beat jiggs' fair...but that doesn't seem to happen.

i wonder what his source is on this. we should really test things somehow.

 

[KirbyKaze]

I think what he means is the 8 damage rule doesn't apply.

There is still "priority" as in attack speed, hitbox size, etc. Moves can still go through one another. But that's more to do with speed and hitbox size more than anything else. I think he means moves don't specifically overpower one another like they do on the ground and everything can - potentially - trade.

idk how right he is, I brought it up mostly because priority is very silly in this game at times. And whenever possible it's good to look into I guess.

 

[Desh]

lol wow
so yesterday andy almost got jumped,
today i got jumped LOL
*****es stole my chain and almost my phone T.T
and my godparents gave me that chain >_>
lmfao, sucks bawls

 

[KirbyKaze]

NOOOOOOOOOO

Desh



Also, every Japanese game ever made:

 

[peterx]

any smash today?

 

[Osman]

Yeah, that explanation of priority raises more questions than it provides answers.

Then again, I'm only familiar with priority in traditional 2-D fighters, where any attack consists of an active (or red) hitbox overlapping a vulnerable (or blue) hitbox; when two attacks meet, the red hitboxes will pass through each other, continuing until one move meets and overlaps with the vulnerable hitbox of his opponent's move. So generally, whoever got the attack out first will win, because his move has a "headstart," but a high priority move can make up for the late start.

For Ground to Air in Melee, not all moves trade. Sheik can beat all of Falcon's aerials cleanly with her f-tilt. Bowser's Down + B will always lose to Fox's u-tilt. Maybe I'm using extreme examples, but there has to be others.

Edit: Why is there a random sad smiley below my avatar?

 

[Santana]

lol wow
so yesterday andy almost got jumped,
today i got jumped LOL
*****es stole my chain and almost my phone T.T
and my godparents gave me that chain >_>
lmfao, sucks bawls

Woh, that sucks. Where were you in Toronto that you got jumped?

Yeah, that explanation of priority raises more questions than it provides answers.

Then again, I'm only familiar with priority in traditional 2-D fighters, where any attack consists of an active (or red) hitbox overlapping a vulnerable (or blue) hitbox; when two attacks meet, the red hitboxes will pass through each other, continuing until one move meets and overlaps with the vulnerable hitbox of his opponent's move. So generally, whoever got the attack out first will win, because his move has a "headstart," but a high priority move can make up for the late start.

For Ground to Air in Melee, not all moves trade. Sheik can beat all of Falcon's aerials cleanly with her f-tilt. Bowser's Down + B will always lose to Fox's u-tilt. Maybe I'm using extreme examples, but there has to be others.

Edit: Why is there a random sad smiley below my avatar?

Cuz you accidentally selected it from the post icon list below the message box. Like mine is a caution sign.

 

[KirbyKaze]

Yeah, that explanation of priority raises more questions than it provides answers.

Then again, I'm only familiar with priority in traditional 2-D fighters, where any attack consists of an active (or red) hitbox overlapping a vulnerable (or blue) hitbox; when two attacks meet, the red hitboxes will pass through each other, continuing until one move meets and overlaps with the vulnerable hitbox of his opponent's move. So generally, whoever got the attack out first will win, because his move has a "headstart," but a high priority move can make up for the late start.

I think that's how aerial work only in smash we have the awesomeness that is Sheik's Bair.

I think most moves have awful hitboxes.

In the example you used (Falcon's aerials vs Sheik's F-tilt) what people don't realize is that Sheik's F-tilt leaves a lingering hitbox as it goes upwards. It leaves an arc, somewhat. This arc is what you're usually hitting with if you're spacing it to beat aerials (like, say, Fox's Nair). Moreover, people also forget to take jump time into consideration. Say Falcon is airborne frame 6? That means in addition to whatever move startup he has, he also has +6 from his jump. Sheik only has 7-9 for the hitbox to be in position to beat that, even less if the Falcon is landing rather low because her hitbox comes out frame 5.

Fox's U-tilt has a very, very stupid hitbox. In fact, most U-tilts have a very, very stupid hitbox.

tl;dr the top tiers have gay hitboxes and jumping takes time becomes relevant in smash for close range stuff especially when dealing with specific move to move interactions.

I think a lot of aerial vs aerial stuff for priority is rather close and that's where it becomes very relevant where you're hitting with moves. Fox's Nair has its largest hitbox in front of it and slightly above it as the move is out, for instance. Sheik's Bair is just everywhere near the end of the extended leg but surprisingly average everywhere else. A lot of moves lose hitbox size ("priority" I suppose) depending on how long they've been out or if they've been out long at all.

General rule of thumb with hitbox size from my own observations on moves like sex kicks (long-lasting moves) seems to be hitboxes are small when they come out, grow exponentially gay for a few frames after, and then shrink.

For short-term moves like Fox U-tilt or Luigi's F-air the results seem to vary more.

I really, really wish SSBM had an option where you could play while being able to observe the hitboxes. Not the characters, but just the hitboxes. The hitboxes for attacks, shields, invincibility... see everything going on. That would be incredible for learning about how everything works...

 

[Deleted member]

anyone going to the God debate tonight?



isabel bader theatre, 6 pm. be thurrrrr

 

[Desh]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=6479835

 

[Afro_Chris]

Yea, I actually, specifically remember your taunting Falcon. What was your name again?

Osman - Friday
Paul? - Friday/Saturday
Ryan - All
Bernard - All
Europhoria
Anthony
Kevin
Alex?
Allen?
Kyle
David?
Imadh?
Peter - Friday?/Saturday
Stos
Marco?

Sorry if I'm forgetting people, just let me know if I am and I'll add you to the list.

K so, lots of maybes.

What days is everyone coming on? How many people can come Thursday? Cause if a lot can't make it, I'll probably say forget about Thursday.

Also, bring TVs/Cubes (need cubes more) and I need a copy of SSBM for my Wii, cause I'm using my SSBM in my cube.

Edit for Bernie: This is going down 5th or 6th (depends on if enough people show for Thursday) till 7th. Doesn't really matter how many crash for either night, but the floor might be cold/uncomfortable.

u forgot me, i'll be coming on saturday

 

[Santana]

Should probably say: on Saturday, everyone should be gone before 5. So if you're coming for Saturday, come early.

 

[unknown522]

I'm probably leaving saturday afternoon/evening. Not 100% sure yet

 

[G1G4 G0N0RRH34]

lol wow
so yesterday andy almost got jumped,
today i got jumped LOL
*****es stole my chain and almost my phone T.T
and my godparents gave me that chain >_>
lmfao, sucks bawls

oh **** son
WHO DUN IT

what if it was the same person lol

the most i could have gotten stolen is like
my bag of chips and mp3
which would have sucked
because i just got those chips cuz i was craving some at the time
lol

brampton going to this smash thing on like
saturday?

 

[peterx]

this is a sick movie, watch it
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=CvUxdQ4q-Lg

 

[unknown522]

David's ****ing gay!!

Ryan Ford says:
I find it easier to combo with yoshi
Ryan Ford says:
I can land more hits with pichu
Ryan Ford says:
but damage-wise
Ryan Ford says:
why couldn't he be stronger
Ryan Ford says:
****it
david - says:
Uair needs to do 8%
david - says:
Fair's hits need to do 2% each
david - says:
Instead of 2 / 1 / 1 / 1 / 1
david - says:
He also needs to use his tail more
Ryan Ford says:
lol
Ryan Ford says:
yeah
Ryan Ford says:
or
Ryan Ford says:
EXTENDER!
Ryan Ford says:
his fair should do like 30 damage
david - says:
I think he just needs to use his tail a lot more
david - says:
And stop hurting himself
Ryan Ford says:
yeah
Ryan Ford says:
but then he's only be ok
Ryan Ford says:
he needs to be gay
david - says:
Make him grab with his tail
Ryan Ford says:
gayer than (insert character)
Ryan Ford says:
magneto
david - says:
Double his tail size
david - says:
And make all of his attacks involve it in some way
david - says:
From there
david - says:
Make them all do like
david - says:
9%
david - says:
And so they all combo somehow
david - says:
Make his U-smash do 18% and come out frame 5 with massive killing power
david - says:
And make him grab with his tail
david - says:
Attacks that do damage with himself have dispropotionately powerful knockback, damage, and comboability
david - says:
His Fair does 40 but deals 3 to him
david - says:
And he moves his Tail onto his face
david - says:
So it has range
david - says:
Somehow
david - says:
Now Pichu is amazing
david - says:
The end of Fair has massive hitstun
david - says:
And spikes them
Ryan Ford says:
lol
david - says:
So it 0-2-deaths by itself
david - says:
Or as Fair --> Fair if they CC it
Ryan Ford says:
I'm quoting that
Ryan Ford says:
boards
david - says:
k
Ryan Ford says:
lol
david - says:
Quote the whole thing though
david - says:
So they understand what I want to create
david - says:
The full power of it
Ryan Ford says:
lol
david - says:
Also his Thunder needs Pikachu's knockback on the multiple hits
david - says:
But it still needs to multi-hit
david - says:
And it also needs infinite vertical range
david - says:
In exchange, it will do 6% to him
david - says:
Instead of 3
Ryan Ford says:
still more?
david - says:
Well
david - says:
Fair --> U-smash --> Thunder
david - says:
Needs to be an undiable instant-kill
david - says:
So that's my solution
david - says:
And yes then I'm finished

 

[DtJ Jungle]

hahahahhahahaha that is amazing.

 

[KirbyKaze]

Compared to my Pichu, Fox is soft.

edit: for Santa

http://boxerhockey.fireball20xl.com/example.php?id=030.jpg

:D

 

[idea]

thundershock now spikes (straight down always, not a meteor) with 8 times the force of falco's dair. it does 40%. hitting fox with it twice on fd will kill him off the top. oh, and it autocancels the same as falco's lasers.

however...it also does 100% damage to pichu.

this game just got a whole lot campier =D

 

[KirbyKaze]

it's like a really, really gay fps cleverly diguised as a fighter :D

 

[RaynEX]

So this is what David takes about with Ryan. Its like a regular conversation minus the realism.

 

[Niko_K]

Alright guys, Smash Bus.

**** NYC, we're starting pickup in TORONTO.

It's going to be 340USD a person, and it's a 4 day trip there due to time legalities (Driver is only allowed to drive 10 hours a day). Though this means when we get to the hotel, we have 14 hours to do whatever we want in the random US city we will be in.

This is going to be one epic road trip.

I want a list of people who are 100% interested so I can estimate how many Americans are coming. .

 

[turtlecake]

I Am 100000% Interested.

 

[turtlecake]

awwwwww yeah boy boy turtlecake is gonna be on the bus