Grand Old Thread: League of Legends!

[adumbrodeus]

adumbrodeus
you are spellsy's #1 fan right?

No, that's commando teemo, I just think he's a cool guy and watch his stream pretty regularly.

well you haven't played 100+ games, can't accurately judge whether Elo Hell exists or not if your worst "sin" up to this point is forgetting to feed the cat lol

But but, I don't even have a cat.

I do buy wards reguardless of my role though.

You're a pretty smart guy.

You probably won't ever see it.

Thanks dan, it's appreciated. Still could use solo top tutoring I think, playing a lot of MUs rather badly. More the bruisers then the APs.

Really like Kennen top though.

 

[Deleted member]

landing skill shot is all reading their intentions and the MIXUPS

 

[PhantomX]

Or if you have pressure/the lead, forcing them against the wall with your positioning also makes it easier to land the skillshots, since it only gives them 2 ways to move.

 

[HondaFoo]

trix for landing skillshots in lane

1. kill a low hp minion and shoot your skillshot through it right as he dies.
2. hit them when they last hit (LOL)
3. sit in a bush/outside fog of war so they can't see your casting animation
4. walk behind the creep line and shoot into them (only if ur stronger)

I'm personally a fan of conditioning your opponent to expect one thing and then reacting accordingly when it matters (when you can get a kill), eg.:

1. To harass, you approach the creepline and throw out a skillshot (maybe at the same angle every time) then immediately back up and continue to last-hit. Most likely your opponent reacts (by backing up) every time you approach
2. When you want that kill, approach but don't do anything (as if you can't get a clear shot) and start backing up
3. As soon as your opponent turns around to come back to the creepline (because they don't expect anything to happen) you instantly turn back around and catch them offguard — if you're really confident you can do fancy stuff like flashing forward to close that gap instantly for a better shot, and then finishing them off with a combo/jungler gank

I use some variation of this to get tons of kills with the skillshot champs that I play (aka Lux) and it can really get into your opponent's head. It doesn't always work — for instance if your opponent is smart and knows your killing potential at any given point (and plays super safe) or if they're really dumb and you don't need anything beyond step 1.

It's all about trying to gauge your opponent's skill level and seeing what you can and can't get away with

 

[ShroudedOne]

All this talk about skillshot landing makes me realize how bad I am at Melee.

 

[Ussi]

Guess what i need is just experience. I'm just being all antsy trying to get good real fast. Doing it wrong, i'ma just have fun with the game. Best way to get good imo.

 

[Faithkeeper]

That new team with nhat, westrice, salce, amphromoo, and unstoppablex streaming scrims. http://www.solomid.net/livestream.php?s=677

 

[jpak]

lgn needs a new support player

 

[Turazrok]

Looks like i have a job

 

[Xaltis]

How long does it take for your 5v5 ranked team to get ranked? I'm on a team with ppl and were 3-0. Shouldn't we be ranked by now? o.o

 

[jpak]

takes 10 games, good luck.

 

[Plum]

Maw of Malmortius Jarman so fun.
Low health bait into dunks too much fun.

 

[ShroudedOne]

Rumble is...oddly difficult to deal with? How should I deal with him as Teemo during laning?

 

[DMG]

Do you have to be Teemo?

 

[Xaltis]

takes 10 games, good luck.

Oh yea. We'll were 3-0 so far. Guess we'll just be 10-0 XP

 

[ShroudedOne]

No, I don't have to be Teemo, lol. But I don't have the largest pool of top lane champs. I'm assuming that's bad for him?

 

[adumbrodeus]

lgn needs a new support player

Would offer, but not qualified yet.


Also prefer top lane (even though im still a better support).

 

[HondaFoo]

lgn needs a new support player

Lautemortis Ali not getting the job done? lol

Also dphat when you teaching me how to jungle

 

[DMG]

No, I don't have to be Teemo, lol. But I don't have the largest pool of top lane champs. I'm assuming that's bad for him?

It's probably ok. You can bully him slightly early on because you have range and your AA's will do more than his fire. After a certain point however I don't think Teemo will really win unless you manage to lure him into Shrooms or he sucks at ulting/last hitting.

 

[L__]

olaf is so fun

 

[Asdioh]

Surge/Heal on Volibear is too good.

 

[KevinM]

Dyrus going off on HARD rant stylemode right now

 

[ArcNatural]

Thanks dan, it's appreciated. Still could use solo top tutoring I think, playing a lot of MUs rather badly. More the bruisers then the APs.

Really like Kennen top though.

We can practice 1v1 top lane matchups if you want, I'm sort of revisiting that lane as well :X.

Just add me ArcNatural and pm me if you want.

I play Udyr/Lee Sin/Vlad/Kennen/Riven top mainly. But I can try out a bunch others idc.

 

[Shaya]

Who's better with 20k gold?

1. Vayne
2. AP Ezreal
3. Karthus
4. Twitch
5. Poppy
7. Tryndamere
8. Warwick

 

[SleepyK]

climbing elo as support only is pretty rough

i try my very best to keep everyone calm, i ward for my other lanes, i ward constantly in my lane.. i keep timers for everything..

is there anything i else i could be doing? :S

 

[adumbrodeus]

We can practice 1v1 top lane matchups if you want, I'm sort of revisiting that lane as well :X.

Just add me ArcNatural and pm me if you want.

I play Udyr/Lee Sin/Vlad/Kennen/Riven top mainly. But I can try out a bunch others idc.

Definately, added.

My go to champs for top lane are currently Kennen, malphite, nasus, Ryze, Shen, and Udyr. Also own Akali, Fiddles, Fiora, GP, Irelia, Kayle, Lee Sin, Naut, Riven, rumble, Tryn, Wukong, and yorick, but not really confident with them.

climbing elo as support only is pretty rough

i try my very best to keep everyone calm, i ward for my other lanes, i ward constantly in my lane.. i keep timers for everything..

is there anything i else i could be doing? :S

Buy support carry items (aka locket, shurelya's), but those clutch heals/stuns/shields/disengages and generally be strong in teamfights. Support abilities are often amazing in teamfights, abuse them.

 

[SleepyK]

yes, i know. i've been hovering between 1600 and 1700 for a little while.

i guess there's really not much i can do if the other lanes go horribly, as a support =/

 

[PhantomX]

climbing elo as support only is pretty rough

i try my very best to keep everyone calm, i ward for my other lanes, i ward constantly in my lane.. i keep timers for everything..

is there anything i else i could be doing? :S

If you can get your lane mate to engage at good times/follow up on you, feeding him kills in lane is the ideal way to carry as a support. However, it can be difficult at lower ELOs. It's why a lot of people won't play dedicated support until 1700+ish.

 

[SleepyK]

it's not very much better in 1700+ either :<

 

[PhantomX]

It's never gonna be good until you get past baseline platinum. But at least it isn't completely futile once you hit 1700. You can try to command your team with pings if you are decent at playcalling, but you can't carry alone.

 

[SleepyK]

indeed. i guess it's just :solo queue:

 

[Coney]

It's probably ok. You can bully him slightly early on because you have range and your AA's will do more than his fire. After a certain point however I don't think Teemo will really win unless you manage to lure him into Shrooms or he sucks at ulting/last hitting.

Teemo probably beats Rumble, honestly, for the same reason he beats Singed. Rumble doesn't ramp up until level 4, and he can't really get any cs reliably before then because of Teemo's ranged AA's (well, maybe with harpoon, but lol). By establishing his dominance in the first four levels without really ever putting himself at risk, Teemo takes control early.

And even then, by the point Rumble can do reliable damage against Teemo (level...4?) he'll already have a point in Move Quick and can kite the **** out of him anyway.

idk, Teemo wins I think.

 

[Mogwai]

Who's better with 20k gold?

1. Vayne
2. AP Ezreal
3. Karthus
4. Twitch
5. Poppy
7. Tryndamere
8. Warwick

I can say with extreme certainty that it totally depends on a lot of factors within the game.



EDIT: also, support Annie is the best way to climb elo playing only support. tibbers needs no AP to truck people.

 

[@TKbreezy]

^I tried that but my lane partner:
1. Refused to follow up on stuns because he was "playing safe" (it was against Vayne Sona btw and he was Caitlyn)
2. complained when I hit a few minions to charge my stun.

I can see why that works though if you duo queue with the understanding that we are about to go HAM bot lane.

 

[Mogwai]

last night I was minding my own business destroying some poor Riven with Pantheon top, then I look down and realize we have support Annie.

"psh," I say, "****ing trolls going to cost me the game!"

then I hit tab.

4/0/6 support Annie at 15 minutes, running around with sorc boots and hextech revolver, killing every lane. ****'s OP.

 

[@TKbreezy]

LOL^ I'll retry it in arranged 5s today if I can get a 5 man going on.

 

[Virgilijus]

last night I was minding my own business destroying some poor Riven with Pantheon top, then I look down and realize we have support Annie.

"psh," I say, "****ing trolls going to cost me the game!"

then I hit tab.

4/0/6 support Annie at 15 minutes, running around with sorc boots and hextech revolver, killing every lane. ****'s OP.

Pakman and I discovered this a while ago. Pantheon + support Annie absolutely destroyed. I got all the cs and Annie would just burst down whoever stepped into range. The other lane never stood a chance.

 

[Mogwai]

the same guy went support sion the next game.

that didn't work nearly as well, lol. we still won though, Pantheon bodies Mordekaiser. I have no idea why people insist on counterpicking themselves when I pick Pantheon early. Is it really that hard to just pick Malphite?

 

[PhantomX]

Support Annie is like a slightly higher utility, less gibby/rangey support LeBlanc.

EDIT: I just pick whoever I feel like playing against Pantheon and then open with 70 armor

 

[Mogwai]

Support Annie is like a slightly higher utility, less gibby/rangey support LeBlanc.

EDIT: I just pick whoever I feel like playing against Pantheon and then open with 70 armor

at which point I either body you anyway (80% of the time)
or
I switch with my mid and lol @ your 30 Mres vs. a caster (20% of the time)

armor's good against physical damage and all, but Pantheon's stronk as hell and you're still going to have a hell of time in lane vs. him with most of the cast, even at 70 armor level 1.