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really good post i like it all
i feel like i too learned a lot about good mentality through poker, but I only really applied it league-wise season 2
Some of us live in a country where the servers are located. Others live in Australia.
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stand back and farm don't be aggressive pre 6 unless the enemy is making it stupidly simple to hit themHow do you guys play Anivia 1-5? It's like you have the strongest pre-6 aggressive tools of any AP, but they come with some of the biggest drawbacks. I've had the most success playing a sort of reactive style; just trying to farm until 6 unless the opponent gets aggressive, at which point I turn on them and trade as hard as possible (kind of like Karthus). On most APs I play very aggressively in lane because I feel like that's the strongest way to play, but I don't have the confidence to do that with Anivia. I'm wondering, should I?
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Trying to understand why some flat runes are better even when they are outclassed at lvl 4.
DarkDragoon
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Because what you're trying to accomplish needs to be done pre-4. Like maximize the damage in level 2/3 ganks.
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So only if your trying to gank an not sit in lane?
i understand for early damage but even then when it loses it's advantage at 4, it loses it's luster for me in lane.
i understand for early damage but even then when it loses it's advantage at 4, it loses it's luster for me in lane.
DarkDragoon
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Well if you get that level 2/level 3 dominance, then you have the gold/item/creep advantage and you just need to play to keep that up.
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Which runes are these?
The earliest the flat runes go out of style is 7, and most are at level 11.
Leacero
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You're doing it right, she has 600 range so its not that hard to farm safely with her auto as compared to say Morgana. You can use Q to clear creep waves pre-6 if you're sure you can get the bulk of the cs that you wouldn't get otherwise without taking massive harass, but you'd have to play defensively until it's back up (but that's okay since you should've gotten at least the caster minions with Q).How do you guys play Anivia 1-5? It's like you have the strongest pre-6 aggressive tools of any AP, but they come with some of the biggest drawbacks. I've had the most success playing a sort of reactive style; just trying to farm until 6 unless the opponent gets aggressive, at which point I turn on them and trade as hard as possible (kind of like Karthus). On most APs I play very aggressively in lane because I feel like that's the strongest way to play, but I don't have the confidence to do that with Anivia. I'm wondering, should I?
Then when you hit 6 go crazy.
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Health Regen.
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I use it on Mordikazier
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that ryze skin is out now
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/dark-crystal-ryze-available-now
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what champs would you run spellvamp quints on?
Renekton, Mundo, and WW for sure, and I do it with some of the pokier tops like GP / Panth / Shen if I'm not comfortable meleeing early in the matchup. Considering picking up normal vamp quints for some, though, and it's not priority atm because I rarely top.
Bartolon
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I run spellvamp quints on kennen
I run vamp quints on pretty much every AP in the game, starting with half a Revolver's worth of vamp is pretty dumb.
good read, I wholeheartedly agree.
Renekton- Ad quints better imo. Your q will deal more damage and thus grant you more health and everything else you do will do more damage (besides ult) ,
mundo- I could maybe see them on him, though I never play mundo so I wouldnt know.
WW- Ap quints imo because your q will do more damage and you get enough healing from it as it is (idk about junglewick, seems like it would be excessive on him though since hes already one of the safest junglers).
Meh, AP quints are so good for harassing them down pre 6 and helping you get that first blood. Hextech is a pretty staple kennen item so the damage from the runes would be more beneficial overall imo.
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Wouldn't you get strictly more health back from flat ap quints on warwick, in addition to even more damage?
Also, wouldn't you get strictly more health back from lifesteal quints on gp than spellvamp.
Is sustain even a major factor in pantheon lanes? I was under the impression for a pantheon lane to work, you have to crush your opponent- not by out-sustaining them, but by forcing them away from creeps, and then to recall and gain a level advantage. You're not gonna pick pantheon vs sustain lanes anyways. Why play to your weaknesses.
Not gonna do the math on the others, but lifesteal seems like it'd be better on the rest (minus mundo if he's jungling), if you're gonna have sustain quints at all.
It's all about them Mana Regen flats on solo topwick, lol.
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OMG really wtf what a freak occurrence that's crazy glad u made this post
Dan, I did just say I dont have lifesteal quints yet, so I use the vamp in place because the pokes work with it for now.
As far as WW goes, flat AP quints are, what, 5?
15 AP = 12 health back regardless of rank (80% of damage done), and only if the total flat magic damage is higher than 8 / 11 / 14 / 17 / 20% of their max HP.
6% Spell Vamp: Assuming Doran's Ring
75 / 125 / 175 / 225 / 275 base + 10 from ring
5.1 / 8.1 / 10.5 / 14.1 / 17.1 additional healing on the flat damage.
Additionally, if they build hp at all and they're farming at least decently, odds are you might invoke the %max HP damage rather than flat as you rank up, seeing as you don't build AP past ring typically. It's preference towards mid/late game for me, seeing as the difference in healing is minimal early and can be substantial later.
As far as Mundo and Ren are concerned, spellvamp is nuts for both of them and if there were pure AD items with Vamp I can guarantee they'd be core for em.
EDIT: Wait, isn't the entire point of Pantheon to go against some of the top sustainers and beat them before they can really sustain? Vamp only helps in poke wars in my experience.
I guess I'm just weird in some of the ways I do things.
As far as WW goes, flat AP quints are, what, 5?
15 AP = 12 health back regardless of rank (80% of damage done), and only if the total flat magic damage is higher than 8 / 11 / 14 / 17 / 20% of their max HP.
6% Spell Vamp: Assuming Doran's Ring
75 / 125 / 175 / 225 / 275 base + 10 from ring
5.1 / 8.1 / 10.5 / 14.1 / 17.1 additional healing on the flat damage.
Additionally, if they build hp at all and they're farming at least decently, odds are you might invoke the %max HP damage rather than flat as you rank up, seeing as you don't build AP past ring typically. It's preference towards mid/late game for me, seeing as the difference in healing is minimal early and can be substantial later.
As far as Mundo and Ren are concerned, spellvamp is nuts for both of them and if there were pure AD items with Vamp I can guarantee they'd be core for em.
EDIT: Wait, isn't the entire point of Pantheon to go against some of the top sustainers and beat them before they can really sustain? Vamp only helps in poke wars in my experience.
I guess I'm just weird in some of the ways I do things.
Being intelligently aggressive.
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healing debuff spam
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Jungle Ganks?
Spell Vamp not worth it on Pantheon unless you also dealt with his mana. He would have to be using Spear consistently without sapping his mana, and there's no good time for him to do that to get any edge specifically from the runes. Early levels you're better off with AD and Armor Pen to beast them in trades and bully the lane. Later on there it would be too easy for other champs to sustain themselves for the spell vamp to matter laning.
It would be fine on Mundo because of cleavers.
It would be fine on Mundo because of cleavers.
No but really, yall got ****ed up bottom lane by KevPhat
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