To add to what jpak said, when meta was super hard jungle gankers at level 2/3 at 1 minute, DanGR used to buy his top laners an early ward when he played support.
-
Welcome to Smashboards, the world's largest Super Smash Brothers community! Over 250,000 Smash Bros. fans from around the world have come to discuss these great games in over 19 million posts!
You are currently viewing our boards as a visitor. Click here to sign up right now and start on your path in the Smash community!
Grand Old Thread: League of Legends!
- Thread starter JTB
- Start date
Coney
Smash Master
Well I mean, another problem is I have a complex that I have to get really aggressive and shut out my lane, because I can't trust my team to do what they're supposed to most of the time. That game I could because it was a premade, and I didn't adjust my mentality, so that was another thing. I have a serious "win lane win game" mentality bred by HOURS and HOURS of unfruitful solo queue and I have to abandon that sometimes.
But yeah he's right, we had better map control because Noc was roaming while Xin was top, I was stuck in the "LOL EASY LANE LEGGO" mentality when I should've just pulled back and let the game play out
And for some reason I never think about stacking Dorans, it feels yucky.
But yeah he's right, we had better map control because Noc was roaming while Xin was top, I was stuck in the "LOL EASY LANE LEGGO" mentality when I should've just pulled back and let the game play out
And for some reason I never think about stacking Dorans, it feels yucky.
**** you tk you ****!
DallasPhat
Smash Master
Best post so far.
NO-IDea
Smash Lord
@jpak: I saw the Xin pick. So I went CV on Soraka.
Yeah, I know, I cp Ryze from time to time, but like, you can cp anyone top lane, that's what makes last pick top so strong (though I would argue that mid CP is strongest b/c it provides you most map control).
DallasPhat
Smash Master
When will people realize that, if you have an advantageous match up top and you know you'll get lvl 2 ganked, just have your jungler anticipate the gank and get a free 2-0 trade up top.
@TKbreezy
Follow me on Twitter!
LMAOOOOOO
I mean you guys don't suck (PER SE) at the game but the arguing?
we have a thread for that? why don't we just fire up the FNB thread again since all of us Play League now?
Really? I was under the impression that other than Wu and J4, Ryze doesn't really lose to other gap closers. granted, I don't play vs many ryzes, but he outranges the standard 600 range gap closer with W, so it's really hard to not just end up eating QWQ every time you try to pressure ryze as someone with a gap closer.
DallasPhat
Smash Master
MOGWAI, my swain vs your any top.
k, swain vs. wukong, $50, let's do it.
Coney
Smash Master
Well that's the thing, our Noc saw it and came up and blew Wukong's flash right after he got blue, which set me up for an easy kill later.
Problem was later when Xin responded by coming top for minutes at a time.
Anyway w/e w/e I was stupid so let's talk about something else like
Twisted Fate
TF's stupidly strong. Not sure why he's not picked, he causes so many problems and is a relatively safe pick in lane.
NO-IDea
Smash Lord
We got NOID playing support because NOID playing any other role makes the win too easy IMO.
If I'm really super winning with Riven I go 4x Dorans > BT > Sell dorans for Phage into Mallet, instead of going Mallet earlier. Dblades are absurd on her.
I think Irelia does fine against Ryze, as does Lee Sin, and Panth (not too sure, this one is theorycraft).
Then again you can just be gay like me and run 170 bonus health and 27 flat MR page and open null mantle and beat Ryze with any of the above (starting with 80 mr, only thing to fear at that point is a heavy AD damage jungle, b/c mid will usually be AP as well).
Then again you can just be gay like me and run 170 bonus health and 27 flat MR page and open null mantle and beat Ryze with any of the above (starting with 80 mr, only thing to fear at that point is a heavy AD damage jungle, b/c mid will usually be AP as well).
Frolossus
Smash Lord
hes easy to counter pick and easy to gank
but yeah otherwise hes still pretty strong
27 MRes page < 18 MRes + 5.4 HP/5 page vs. Mages IMHO. And I don't think it completely solves Irelia's problems vs. Ryze, but maybe that's just me.
I disagree, he has AoE creep clearing at like 1200 range, even bad matchups are sorta "w/e" for him cause he can just sit back and farm. And with that range, it's a ***** to gank him. I won't deny that he "loses" plenty of mid matchups, but the losses are low in terms of how much CS he actually ends up down from playing safe and he still just instantly appears to counter gank and simply wins games by doing so.
Panth wins pre-shroud, Ryze wins post-shroud. It's one of those Pantheon matchups that 100% hinges on whether Pantheon can exploit his early advantage to the point where he's far enough ahead to stay ahead when the opponent starts htiting the sweet spot of their power curve.
D
Deleted member
Guest
i say i hard leash u blue u go top right away intercept other jungler
they say YES and then go off to do their small camps
==
TF is still very good and he's IMO one of the funnest team fighters
NO-IDea
Smash Lord
Your idea of fun and my idea of boring must be synonymous.
What decision making is there for TF? You sit in back. You throw cards. Oh, bruiser coming at you? Gold card. Step back. Throw some more cards.
Lost team fight? Probably your team's fault. You did your job.
I guess if being faultless is having fun...
What decision making is there for TF? You sit in back. You throw cards. Oh, bruiser coming at you? Gold card. Step back. Throw some more cards.
Lost team fight? Probably your team's fault. You did your job.
I guess if being faultless is having fun...
DallasPhat
Smash Master
Being perfect is indeed nice Noid, trust me I would know.
best part of teamfighting with TF is realizing that your team has lost the fight and just ulting to vulture towers/inhibs for free and minimize objective damage from the teamfight loss.
NO-IDea
Smash Lord
Not your fault for playing TF right.
But your fault for picking TF. Unless you win by some tasty BD action.
Blegh, I just got ninja'd.
But your fault for picking TF. Unless you win by some tasty BD action.
Blegh, I just got ninja'd.
I don't know but tiensi is amazing that is all
Why is Tiger so much better than phoenix?
I have no idea what PX is talking about there tbh.
D
Deleted member
Guest
the reason its fun is because tf's range sucks/ you are a stun bot and can swing fights around getting a good stun on their carry sitting in the back then getting away without dying then wild carding everyone then stunning again ever 2-3 seconds. i feel like he can swing team fights around if you have the balls too
and its fun ****** n00bs 1v3 just cuz ur a stun bot
overall, to me its more dynamic then being an ad carry where you shoot anyone and micro/cleanse/flash as people stun get too close. But unlike you(?) i'm not a ***** that just goes for the bruiser in front of me, i actually do non-vagina tactics so maybe thats why its more fun
doing a semi-engage with his ultimate is fun too and rewarding if you pull it off
==
also, by no means is TF the best pick but he is fun if you choose to be fun with him and go hard, true you can backdoor and be a ***** but who wants to be a ******
john!
Smash Hero
obviously this thread needs a "real man club" for real men who play real man heroes and do real manly strategies and aren't weak *** ***** little ****ing *****es
We already know it's just Mogwai, Dphat and S2J in the real man club and that everyone else is a little ***** though.
ChaosKnight
Smash Master
md/va strongest arent the people posting here cept maybe zak muahahah we are hidden in the shadows ??
Leacero
Smash Lord
I don't even know what happened to this topic in the past few pages.
Just because I like to farm and not die, doesn't make me a *****
Basically everyone hates Riven, Wukong OP, Ryze NP NP, and Jpak is god awful
WTF Mogwai. I'm insulted that I'm not included in that group... some bull**** right there.
@ Kira- - Also Tiger is amazing against Riven b/c she can't keep up with his burst and can't shield to negate the majority of its heavy damage (unlike Phoenix which does bits of DoT). The faster you kill her the less time she has to do her own shenanigans.
Also Tiger Udyr is much stronger at ganking and skirmishing (this is my opinion) than Phoenix, and considering your opponent was a Xin Zhao, who can't exactly mega clear camps, I think it would have been a stronger choice for that game.
But if you were Tiger Udyr for example, I never would have been able to squeeze out that kill on Mogwai before dying when you successfully ganked me top, and I probably would have gotten owned in river before I even got into a position to have Sion help me.
@ Kira- - Also Tiger is amazing against Riven b/c she can't keep up with his burst and can't shield to negate the majority of its heavy damage (unlike Phoenix which does bits of DoT). The faster you kill her the less time she has to do her own shenanigans.
Also Tiger Udyr is much stronger at ganking and skirmishing (this is my opinion) than Phoenix, and considering your opponent was a Xin Zhao, who can't exactly mega clear camps, I think it would have been a stronger choice for that game.
But if you were Tiger Udyr for example, I never would have been able to squeeze out that kill on Mogwai before dying when you successfully ganked me top, and I probably would have gotten owned in river before I even got into a position to have Sion help me.
Ussi
Smash Legend
john!
Smash Hero
wtf sona isn't even in this poll