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Grand Old Thread: League of Legends!

jpak

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@Coney - slows from spells stack but iems like mallet and rylais do not. it is harder to bring someone from 200 -> 100 movespeed than it is 400 -> 200 because of the diminishing returns. Try AP TF
@Vocal - get a good jungler, mord has to push to be effective. so just gank him.
 

Evanms

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I hope to see garen being played more now with his buff to speed and judgment cd. So sad though we need old judgment stats back. Spin pretty much only serves as a cleanse now, you do more damage auto attacking. I am still working on a xin like build for him with lessdamage more tankyness. Still rip sunfires.


Btw no one Q with tom untill he posts running with Olaf plz.
 

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does the slow from lizard count as an item slow or an ability slow? or does it get its own category?
 

Tom

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I hope to see garen being played more now with his buff to speed and judgment cd. So sad though we need old judgment stats back. Spin pretty much only serves as a cleanse now, you do more damage auto attacking. I am still working on a xin like build for him with lessdamage more tankyness. Still rip sunfires.


Btw no one Q with tom untill he posts running with Olaf plz.
1) this would not stop jpak from queueing with me and really thats all i need to get better !!

2) i accidentally deleted the replay. i profusely apologized to everyone on vent but i guess you werent on :<
 

Plum

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Tanky DPS teams are a pain. That's what I see right now too, mostly because I'm just not at a level where people are willing to play the standard team composition. It's only really what I see when I'm playing by myself though. When I que with a group of friends and we build the standard team composition (tank+ranged AD+AP carry+support+jungler) it becomes pretty easy to beat the normal "insert various tanky dps characters here" teams I see at my level.

I think the problem is that nobody at the level I'm at (and sounds like you're at the same level) willingly plays dedicated tanks or support characters. I think it's because people at an average level just want to have a high K/D ratio. The squishy carries are only as powerful as your ability to keep them safe, and without tanks/support characters they can't do their job. The fact that you die nearly instantly without proper team support means that you are just better playing a tanky dps.
Those kind of teams still get ***** by a balanced team though. Teams that can just CC or kite those characters to death (so like any competitive team you see at the top ELO) will have an easy time.
 

NeverKnowsBest

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what do you build?
I've decided to get rid of my early game attack power and swapped my yellows and blues with mana regen. Red Armor Pen, AD Quints.

Running utilty instead of attack so 9/0/21.

I go doran's blade, doran's blade (I like to stack now a days. It kinda just helps kill mid easier since I dont run my old runes.) brute, boots (CDR), BT/LW, Triforce, last item is whatever. I've been going bloodrazor because I've been fighting really beefy champs lately.
 

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oh, that was our whole strat then, lmfao

yeah that makes sense, but if we can't use a chill gimmick then it's not really worth it, he can go someone more adept at laning with nunu

speaking of, i played with a gragas last night, gragas + nunu lane is ****ing hilarious...if they overstep, he ults them into my ult, ice ball + barrel covers retreat, sova baby



oh btw while i'm not really a noob i'm still not very knowledgeable of this game, so please bear with me...

do slows stack?

like, considering the team in question, if, as nunu, i used my ult in conjunction with anivia's ult, would they only take the effect from the greater of the two stuns, or would that somehow be combined?

i think it's the former, as i've laned with a trundle before as singed and with glue + pillar they didn't seem to be any worse for wear than with either separately
Slows stack. With this patch, they just implemented diminishing returns on stacking slows, but they still cause extra slowness.
 

JustNoOne

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Ummm.. hi everyone!?! I started playing League of Legends a month ago and hello? o.o

I play Kennen and Sion as of right now (main and secondary respectively) and I wanna introduce myself so I'm not alone when playing LoL :D Cause I generally playing alone, solo queue everytime :(

So sup =P
 

M3D

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I should be on late tonight, but I have indoor soccer this evening. Gonna wreck some faces on the field and then come home and wreck some faces on the fields of justice.

Was watching Guardsman Bob's stream today and he was playing Jarvan. He was going Flash/Ignite and building:

Regrowth Pendant + pot
Boots1
Philo Stone
Brutalizer
Merc Treads
Giants Belt / Mallet -> Frozen Mallet
Avarice Blade -> Finish Ghostblade
BF Sword -> Finish IE

It was working very well for him. Lots of damage and Flash -> Ult is an insane gap closer. It makes me feel dumb to run a melee DPS without ghost, but it works on him. I copied this build the following game (but built an early HoG too because I needed a little bit more tankiness) and did pretty well. I might take Ghost/Flash if I've got some other champs with Ignite on the team though. Just depends on the team comp.
 

Limeee

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LOL
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EDIT: hextech anivia is so good. my friend has alwayus mained anivia and now he just wrecks faces. the skin helps mayyyyyne
 

DanGR

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Hey I have a quick question. I was looking at Chausters Ezreal and I noticed he goes AD EZ with SS boots. I'm confused why. Can anyone answer?
Straight AD? Then he's a tard.

Sure you're not mistaken for a hybrid build?
 

Turazrok

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Hey I have a quick question. I was looking at Chausters Ezreal and I noticed he goes AD EZ with SS boots. I'm confused why. Can anyone answer?
SS?

I mean I'm pretty sure 3/4 are magpen bro.

Well with the new ulti if it still deals mag I'd sorts understand.
 

PhantomX

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I run jungle Jarvan with 0-21-9, build Wriggles/CD boots, then Brutalizer and Negatron Cloak, followed by either Glacial Shroud or the Catalyst depending on what I need, then the other. Max CDR = 3 second AoE knockup and permanent flag, plus 7 second shields, so you can provide a hell of a lot of utility for your team, while doing some decent damage w/ Ghostblade.
 

Turazrok

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i run jungle jarvan with 0-21-9, build wriggles/cd boots, then brutalizer and negatron cloak, followed by either glacial shroud or the catalyst depending on what i need, then the other. Max cdr = 3 second aoe knockup and permanent flag, plus 7 second shields, so you can provide a hell of a lot of utility for your team, while doing some decent damage w/ ghostblade.
qwer ?
 

Shaya

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Because 30 magic penetration (not sure of his rune page, otherwise 20) negates most squishies magic resist.

And ezreal has a 280 base spell he can use.
Plus yeah the ultimate.

I've thrown around getting sorc boots and what not. Hell I used to keep E at level 1 and get W over it, even with AD ez. BUTTTTT I prefer kiting with blue buff.
 

DanGR

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Only thing you can reliably poke with is Q, which is AD. In an AD build the W is used for raising your team's attack speed as opposed to the damage, right? E is for getting away and positioning. Okay, it makes your newly buffed ult do more damage. But you wanna trade 35% CC reduction +25 MR or 25% att spd for more damage on his ult? Why?


Am I missing something? O.o

Not that I use Ezreal a ton or anything. Just what I'm thinking right now.
 

Cia

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jeez, it's like a whole different game down there... that comp would get dumped on by something like Annie + Ashe + Janna + Singed + Nunu. You'd just get kited to death.



Trist should give her the business at mid. At least in theory.
I'm all about death kiting, but you're always going to have that player who gets caught out of position and gets initiated on by bladesurge or any other dive move. Then you have to try and salvage whatever you can while staying at a safe distance, but of course we lose the entire fight because we don't have the stats to fight them at full health.

Then when I'm the last one to left and not getting aced, you can expect "/all gg noob trist don't help"

And regarding trist v irelia.. Idk what to do..

I lead with dblade, she leads with shield. My autoattack does like 40ish dmg to her. She has Dshield regen + hiten style. If I get in range to use my explosive shot, I will get bursted down HARD. And the higher level she gets it only gets worse. I can't deny her from farming.. What should I be doing to deal with that?
 

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I'm all about death kiting, but you're always going to have that player who gets caught out of position and gets initiated on by bladesurge or any other dive move. Then you have to try and salvage whatever you can while staying at a safe distance, but of course we lose the entire fight because we don't have the stats to fight them at full health.

Then when I'm the last one to left and not getting aced, you can expect "/all gg noob trist don't help"

And regarding trist v irelia.. Idk what to do..

I lead with dblade, she leads with shield. My autoattack does like 40ish dmg to her. She has Dshield regen + hiten style. If I get in range to use my explosive shot, I will get bursted down HARD. And the higher level she gets it only gets worse. I can't deny her from farming.. What should I be doing to deal with that?
There's not much you can do to harass. Just try to farm as best you can, and you can start outranging her around level 7 or 8ish
 

PhantomX

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Trundle is quite fun, and he's one of the stronger junglers, I may end up getting him before Blitz even, since I have Jarvan for disruption/tanking (though he's a fairly solid jungler).
 

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Only thing you can reliably poke with is Q, which is AD. In an AD build the W is used for raising your team's attack speed as opposed to the damage, right? E is for getting away and positioning. Okay, it makes your newly buffed ult do more damage. But you wanna trade 35% CC reduction +25 MR or 25% att spd for more damage on his ult? Why?


Am I missing something? O.o

Not that I use Ezreal a ton or anything. Just what I'm thinking right now.
Corki has a base 280 magic damage spell (q).
He uses it.

IMO I don't know why Corki doesn't start out with Sorcs early game and then build into greeves after his stupid base damage on his skills tapers off a bit.
 

Dekar173

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Corki has a base 280 magic damage spell (q).
He uses it.

IMO I don't know why Corki doesn't start out with Sorcs early game and then build into greeves after his stupid base damage on his skills tapers off a bit.
Because merc treads are so much better lol
 

DUB

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How the fudge do I play Renekton? I've been going 0/9/21 w/

Dorans
Cooldown boots
Forzen mallet
ghostblade
defense
atmas
 

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I usually see elementz run the following items [I forgot the order]

randuins
cdr boots
ghostblade
sunfire

I think the other two are frozen mallet and atmas, I'm not sure, dependent on teams I suppose
 

Rappster

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Hey guys.
If i'm playing dps mundo, i'm still kinda bad, so i usually get one health regen item.

is spirit visage better than force of nature?

my build right now is:

dagger + health pot
Beserker's greaves
[spirit visage or force of nature]
Phantom dancer
sunfire

for fifth and sixth items, what would be good?
i'm thinking frozen mallet and black cleaver?
 
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