Grand Old Thread: League of Legends!

[adumbrodeus]

Lowest winrate of any AD carry including twitch. Tris is a close second.

 

[JTB]

Is there anything wrong with vayne or is it just other carries are better?

 

[Coney]

does anyone else find it really really really hard to play league after not playing for like, a week

i just got back from vacation and i try to play and i'm just like, completely overwhelmed by the sensory overstimulation and go 0-6

like ****

there's so much to think about that you kinda just take for granted when you play more

 

[PhantomX]

Vayne is just harder to play than other successful ADs, so mediocre players do god awful with her.

I personally play better when I come back from short breaks.

 

[Coney]

me too if it's like, one or two days

nine days though? holy **** WHAT AM I DOING ANYMORE

 

[Zero_Gamer]

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2508956

You can find the best stuff on the league forums.

 

[Cia]

^ I read all the way up to "the pubes" and then I stopped.

 

[JTB]

Stopped reading so you can start masturbating?

 

[ToferTheHuman]

I know I did.

 

[Zolga Owns]

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2508956

You can find the best stuff on the league forums.

Eh. I've read worse.

 

[Saki-]

By chance was it by the same author?

 

[adumbrodeus]

Vayne is just harder to play than other successful ADs, so mediocre players do god awful with her.

I personally play better when I come back from short breaks.

Her win rate is worse in plat then in low elo. Fun fact.

Minus an odd spike where she was at 51% for a day

 

[JTB]

adumb you can point out stats all you want, but if you don't know why shes bad then its of no use to me

 

[HondaFoo]

People down bot like to fight early these days, and Vayne is not an early game champion sadly. She also doesn't have a safe way to poke, which is a big thing now. Also she is hard

 

[Sinister Slush]

I poke with W on Twitch.
Best AD

 

[Geoberos]

Unless I saw the update video wrong, but Ez as top three AD to be nerfed-- but only nerfing flux and buffing mystic; isn't that more beneficial to ADC Ez?

 

[Shaya]

Ezreal's damage as a carry (late game wise) has been subpar for quite a long while. His strength comes from how strong it is to **** on average 3 characters on the enemy team by 40% of their dps. That's his early, mid and late game scaling in a nutshell.

 

[adumbrodeus]

adumb you can point out stats all you want, but if you don't know why shes bad then its of no use to me

Spellsy explains it better then I do, but bot lane is about discrete exchanges and vayne simply lacks the tools to win exchanges because she doesn't have any nuke pressure and is totally dependent on items to really do any damage. She also has no long range farming tools so she's easily forced into exchanges.

She ends up being very easy to kill or forced out of lane because of this. It doesn't help that Ezreal is the most popular AD carry currently and his AS debuff is particularly effective against her.

 

[Ussi]

Ez isn't that good still, he has a trash win rate.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

People down bot like to fight early these days, and Vayne is not an early game champion sadly. She also doesn't have a safe way to poke, which is a big thing now. Also she is hard

Her late game is fantastic.

 

[Asdioh]

Ez isn't that good still, he has a trash win rate.

what

http://www.lolking.net/champions/ezreal&region=all&league=ranked#statistics

in all regions and all elos he is MASSIVELY popular and has like a 55% win rate

 

[Okuser]

haha ezreal gets banned/ first picked in almost every ranked game I'm in.

 

[Shaya]

ezreal is in 65% of plat games but only wins 55%

 

[Sinister Slush]

Only time I saw Ezreal banned was PFE release day.

Spoiler

pulse_fire_ezreal_release_day.gif

 

[Mogwai]

streaming: http://www.justin.tv/smashgizmo

 

[Scamp]

I wonder how good my normal ELO has to be before Riot gives people the option to watch my match?

It's probably really bad, though. SUPPORT ZYRA IS A THING, PEOPLE!!!

 

[adumbrodeus]

Ez isn't that good still, he has a trash win rate.

Can't tell if trolling or legitimately don't know.


Ez has the best win rate of any AD carry. While part of it is definitely the buffs, people simply learning that maxing W gives you awesome trading is probably the biggest factor.

Her late game is fantastic.

If you get crushed in lane it only matters if everyone gets to 6 items cause the enemy AD will still be outdamaging you. Not even ~800 elo games last the 50 minutes for that most of the time.

I won't say that lane performance is the only thing, but if lategame is all you have, that just isn't much to offer compared to what every other AD offers.

ezreal is in 65% of plat games but only wins 55%

Lol shaya, enjoying Ez's meteoric rise?

The chinese were right all along.

 

[Zero_Gamer]

By chance was it by the same author?

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2388498

Like this one?

 

[adumbrodeus]

Reminds me of a tsm slash fanfiction I saw on their forums.


I do not frequent the TSM forums anymore.

 

[Shaya]

The way ez is currently played by the masses is pretty boring.
Yay for generic auto attacker.

 

[adumbrodeus]

The way ez is currently played by the masses is pretty boring.
Yay for generic auto attacker.

Generic auto-attacker THAT GETS TF!

SPECIAL!



Ignore that 2 of the 3 standard ad carries get tf.

 

[Almost Infinite]

1560 3s elo 14xx Soloqueue elo CHECKING in
I need a new jungler to carry nerds in soloqueue with

 

[Ussi]

When i said Ez has a trash win rate, i was basing it off Elo buff's 3 tourney events there..

Ez has a 24% win rate, 57% win rate and a 12.5% win rate in those 3 events.

Shoulda checked solo q though my bad

 

[Niko45]

Vayne gets crushed in lane by everything, particularly against junglers that are good at diving cause she's very easy to harass and push to tower.

Her escape is nice in that it is up every 2 seconds (as long as you hit something) but it's not very long and doesn't jump walls.

She sucks miserably at pushing so she is constantly pushed to tower and vulnerable to 3/4 man dive, and also is not able to punish teams by taking towers if she's not with the team and a forced engage happens.

Basically getting crushed in lane phase is extra bad in solo queue format.

Ever since I stopped playing Vayne I've been way more successful.

 

[Ussi]

Anyone watching Dignitas vs Dynamic? hour long game ._. Anivia turtle OP

I laughed SO hard at the end of game 3.1 when Orianna moved her ball in the middle of the Dignitas team and EVERY SINGLE guy on Dignitas flashed to avoid the potential shockwave, it never came, which made it even more funny

 

[Asdioh]

So I just made the mistake of comparing Sivir's stats to Graves... and he's better at literally everything except attack speed, which is further getting nerfed. I'm wondering why Riot is nerfing the 3 popular AD carries a tiny bit instead of buffing the underplayed ones a tiny bit.

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Graves_the_Outlaw
http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Sivir_the_Battle_Mistress

It's pretty ridiculous when you compare the two, especially the fact that he has more range when he's supposed to be the "in your face" AD carry.

But he IS a 6300 champ so lolol

 

[Ussi]

Sivir has a spell shield

The problem isn't AD carries, it's supports. Riot nerfed supports to the point they can't save AD carries that don't have an escape. The meta has also moved to a strong early-mid game.

 

[Asdioh]

And Graves has a FPS reducer ;_;

That's my only real complain about Graves, lol. Sivir is still viable it's just that when I saw those stat differences, what the hell.

 

[Sinister Slush]

Graves spirals out of control late game if fed enough.
Mostly from, funny enough, attacking too fast from Quickdraw. Tankiness isn't all that bad, but it's annoying during lane phase with Taric.

 

[adumbrodeus]

So I just made the mistake of comparing Sivir's stats to Graves... and he's better at literally everything except attack speed, which is further getting nerfed. I'm wondering why Riot is nerfing the 3 popular AD carries a tiny bit instead of buffing the underplayed ones a tiny bit.

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Graves_the_Outlaw
http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Sivir_the_Battle_Mistress

It's pretty ridiculous when you compare the two, especially the fact that he has more range when he's supposed to be the "in your face" AD carry.

But he IS a 6300 champ so lolol

I actually ruminated on this a fair amount a few days ago on reddit/pvp.net. While I doubt it's perfect, I think I did a pretty good job of covering why escapes are a gate in the current meta.

Sivir is supposed to be an "in your face" AD carry too, graves is just better at it.