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Pikaville
Pikaville returns 10 years later.
Why in gods name does AP Kog do sooooo much damage with his ult.
You literally can't deal with the range/damage.
You literally can't deal with the range/damage.
You will burn.
zyth
Smash Lord
and patience
Lovage
Smash Hero
laughed my *** off when jem said he starts passive lv. 1 on varus hehe
You can do worse. Varus Passive does do on-hit damage on it's own, it's not like starting Rewind on Zilean or Killer Instincts on Katarina.
john!
Smash Hero
or anything but q on xerath
E's worse than Q, but again, at least it does something. It's not the same level of awfulness.
W gives movespeed........ that's the best I can say for it. Still better than Kat or Zil Ws, but barely.
W gives movespeed........ that's the best I can say for it. Still better than Kat or Zil Ws, but barely.
john!
Smash Hero
kat's w gives bonus damage on autoattacks though. i suppose that could help with last hitting if you had a boring mid matchup for the first few levels and just wanted to farm (and not push)
wow, shows how long it's been since I played Kat. I had completely forgotten that it did that.
zyth
Smash Lord
not as bad as getting W on teemo first
john!
Smash Hero
gotta go fast.
This conversation sucks, let's stop, there are tons of ways to be stupid with your opening skill.
Let's talk about how good a roaming support is with a ranged AD like Graves/Ezreal who can hang in a 1v2 due to the level advantage. Ever since Dphat went balls deep on Sunday, I've been wondering why more people don't play heavier early roaming strategies in solo queue.
Frolossus
Smash Lord
i think it depends on who you are laning against, how much support the roamer + jungler gives the 2v1 lane and how much you can trust that 2v1 person to not die
Niko45
Smash Master
Honestly after watching that I started to feel like graves comps should exploit that way more cause he can really 2v1 lanes without much problem. Only time I feel he has trouble is against very serious poke.
Lovage
Smash Hero
johnnys ali has done this for as long as i can remember
support players: if u are ahead AND the lane is pushing in your favor, go 1v3 towerdive mid please, your corki isnt gonna have any problem CS'ing in tower don't trip.
support players: if u are ahead AND the lane is pushing in your favor, go 1v3 towerdive mid please, your corki isnt gonna have any problem CS'ing in tower don't trip.
you just need to bring tha preshaaaa to bot if they try to exploit the 2v1 really hard. double gank from opposing tribrush if they're being pricks on your tower. and you don't need to roam the whole time like the old days of roaming. Dphat was kinda rolling around for 3 minutes or so and then playing bot for a bit and owning bot because he had a level 6 Ranged AD vs. 2 people without their ults for a decent period of time. It just seemed really strong, even though our ranged AD was well behind in CS at first.
I just think a lot of why people gave up on roaming is that they were running the wrong champs solo bot. Everyone was still stuck on bruisers like Cho/J4, who would just get ruined by support + ranged AD, but if you just run a ranged AD who scales well with levels, I think it could be brought back.
I think it works better at higher ELOs, Wes. You can get each lane an early advantage and then most of the time they will be able to snowball (at the very least 2/3 will) and then you can go help out your bot.
I don't know how viable it would be in arranged play as well, or once it becomes popular if supports ward for the early ganks. But for solo queue it seems like gold.
I don't know how viable it would be in arranged play as well, or once it becomes popular if supports ward for the early ganks. But for solo queue it seems like gold.
Niko45
Smash Master
Quick question (more AD stuff): Is it a good idea to go double PD on Kog/Vayne? Since they are so auto attack based it seems like that could outweigh getting a different 3rd damage item (starting either BT + PD or IE + PD). Especially with IE considering you will have the almost guaranteed crit rate.
My current Kog build is double dorans greaves vamp PD IE and then either last whisp or BT. But I am wondering if a second PD would be better than those 3rd major items (obviously with a lot of armor in the game I'd go Last Whisp but if not then...?)
My current Kog build is double dorans greaves vamp PD IE and then either last whisp or BT. But I am wondering if a second PD would be better than those 3rd major items (obviously with a lot of armor in the game I'd go Last Whisp but if not then...?)
Lovage
Smash Hero
dunno what the fuss is about PD first kogmaw. maybe if u suck at farming and can't get a bf sword without dying. bf sword 1 dorans zerker greaves kogmaw is ludicrous.
double PD isn't very effective IMO. by that time in the game theres probably several 100 armor targets so not getting LW wouldn't be smart. this is also assuming you didn't need to get an earlier QSS or GA because of their comp. even then i'd rather get a BT over a second PD.
double PD isn't very effective IMO. by that time in the game theres probably several 100 armor targets so not getting LW wouldn't be smart. this is also assuming you didn't need to get an earlier QSS or GA because of their comp. even then i'd rather get a BT over a second PD.
Is Yi good with mostly PDs? I don't see how he would be, because it seems he already has AS steroids so he needs AD items, but just last game there was a Yi on my team who kinda got fed and had 2-3 Zeal/PDs, and his only damage item was Wriggle's... and he had nearly 200 AD midgame and was just completely ****ing decimating the enemy team, it was disgusting. He kept getting triple/quadra kills and ended the game with 2 BTs, 3 PDs, and an IE. @_@
Niko45
Smash Master
I'm actually just trying PD first because I haven't tried it yet but it seems pretty damn good tbh. I'd think the logic behind it is you get more bursty with your W?
You'd do even more damage that is more difficult to itemize for if you have the IE (because then you do big W damage which is magical but are landing huge physical damage crits as well).
Lovage
Smash Hero
it def. is good, but i think early bf sword is WAY better. i like being a character when my W is off as well as on.
DallasPhat
Smash Master
My belief about roaming taric is that if I'm last pick then my ad can probably handle themselves and by letting the other lane snowball, the chances of them blowing their lead in 2k Elo is unlikely.
Niko45
Smash Master
Maybe I'll try BF zeal or zeal BF for a while and see how that goes. I feel like I see people do that on kog a lot.
I don't like PD first on Kog. W should be more of a background damage dealer instead of focusing on primarily abusing it specifically. If you go PD first you miss out on ults hitting harder and regular attacks hitting harder.
Lovage
Smash Hero
Ussi
Smash Legend
I do this with Nautilus and Taric, though it does depend on the lane my bot will be 1v2 like I can't leave him alone in a bad MU with a support that can CC
edit: oh snap >_> i should refresh pages before replying to messages
Lovage
Smash Hero
to anyone who bought varus try out the oscar build.
standard AD ****, zerkers 1-2 dorans. infinity first, brutalizer, PD. attack target 3 times and use your arrow (usually full charge) into as much of their team as possible including the person with 3 stacks. your arrow has 6sec cooldown and good armor pen so you can use it all fight long and proc more W's
not sure if it's the best strat but it's fun so far. also 60 cds cd ults lol.
edit: make sure you go standard AD carry runes and 22/1/7 masteries with CDR in offense tree, heal talent in defense, and meditation in utility.
standard AD ****, zerkers 1-2 dorans. infinity first, brutalizer, PD. attack target 3 times and use your arrow (usually full charge) into as much of their team as possible including the person with 3 stacks. your arrow has 6sec cooldown and good armor pen so you can use it all fight long and proc more W's
not sure if it's the best strat but it's fun so far. also 60 cds cd ults lol.
edit: make sure you go standard AD carry runes and 22/1/7 masteries with CDR in offense tree, heal talent in defense, and meditation in utility.
So in your opinion is he a good AD carry?
Have you guys been seeing an unusually large amount of Varuses in your games, compared to other release champs? I only played one game so far today, and it was blind pick with Varus on both teams, but from the sounds of it there are lots of people playing/seeing them.
Lovage
Smash Hero
DUNNO till i try him in 5's he's fun though
his passive makes him one of the easiest last hitters ever btw. tower doesnt mean anything to varus.
edit: i also wanna try black clever first maxing W and then Q.
zyth
Smash Lord
who remembers when vayne came out and every team had one?
Ussi
Smash Legend
Varus gets a triple kill or better in every game I play with him in it. Probably why people start playing him, and keep on playing him.
Varus really looks good for poke teams as well.
Varus really looks good for poke teams as well.
this is how every new champion works
They are op, they get penta kills and carry the game
then you get a varus on your team, he has downs and feeds and blames everyone else bc he "carried" every other game he played with varus
therefore, BAN varus and any new champion after him on release day, it will help
They are op, they get penta kills and carry the game
then you get a varus on your team, he has downs and feeds and blames everyone else bc he "carried" every other game he played with varus
therefore, BAN varus and any new champion after him on release day, it will help