Geno (♥♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior

[Michael the Spikester]

That's exactly what we're thinking at the moment is that this is the amiibo tie-in to FP7 and most likely a Square rep

Well, the original leak said that these rereleases would all happen on September 18th and then changed once Joker and Hero were formally announced in June. That said, there's been a two week delay for unknown reasons so it's yet another thing that heavily suggests this week or next.

Alright! Now I'm definitely getting optimistic!

That said, while not a supporter, I would definitely welcome Geno in open arms as I imagine he'd make for a fun character and definitely be excited to see him, rooting for you guys that your favorite wooden puppet makes the cut this time.

 

[Deleted member]

That's exactly what we're thinking at the moment is that this is the amiibo tie-in to FP7 and most likely a Square rep

Were there ever amiibo tie-ins to characters in the past?

 

[QQS]

THIS IS HAPPENING.

 

[Springwood Slasher]

Were there ever amiibo tie-ins to characters in the past?

I second this. Can someone figure this out?

 

[CommanderZaktan]

Since we're getting re-stocks of Super Mario and Cloud amiibo, let's all make a wish.

I wish Geno will be revealed this Thursday as FP7.

 

[Noipoi]

Woah woah woah

Amiibo what? Rerelease who?

I’ve been geeking over that beautiful bump of chicken Pokémon video and figuring out a good name for Galarian Zapdos, I’m outta the loop.

 

[QQS]

I know Geno is a fighter; but my wish is for Geno to be #77 for two things. To coincide him as the 7th Star and also to have him as the next fighter rather than keep waiting.

GENO GETS THE SHOW ON THE ROAD!


(Photo credits to the video of Source Gaming poll, credits to artist!)

 

[MattX20]

Woah woah woah

Amiibo what? Rerelease who?

I’ve been geeking over that beautiful bump of chicken Pokémon video and figuring out a good name for Galarian Zapdos, I’m outta the loop.

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Man, Friday could be busy.
Maybe we could see those Mario Amiibo restocked as well very shortly.

I think Fighter 77 needs to be revealed sooner then later to avoid leaks of the surprise.

This is what the amiibo rereleases are about

 

[Elmorethemagician]

Seems like the time may be coming soon...

 

[ForsakenM]

Jesus Nintendo, how many different ways to Sunday can you hint at a setup for a character announcement before you just finally ****ing reveal them?

Nintendo has until the end of today as far as my patience is concerned. If they don't drop it today then I'm removing myself from speculation until the announcement is made. I'm mostly just tired of waiting because every time it should have happened already it didn't and then pessimists feel like they are justified to push their negative views and I'm just bored of this cycle we are in.

 

[MattX20]

Jesus Nintendo, how many different ways to Sunday can you hint at a setup for a character announcement before you just finally ****ing reveal them?

Nintendo has until the end of today as far as my patience is concerned. If they don't drop it today then I'm removing myself from speculation until the announcement is made. I'm mostly just tired of waiting because every time it should have happened already it didn't and then pessimists feel like they are justified to push their negative views and I'm just bored of this cycle we are in.

My patience is tied to the end of next week as far as the reveal is concerned, but I don't think we'll have to wait too much longer. I'm more optimistic now than I've been in a good while

 

[Colors]

Wow! The anticipation is really building up here! I wish I had something meaningful to say right now, but I'm a little bit pressed on time. I stopped by to inquire: Is there a "Geno for Smash" or a "Smashboards" Discord Server I can join? I would really appreciate it! Feel free to send me a message! Hope you're all having a good week.

 

[MattX20]

Wow! The anticipation is really building up here! I wish I had something meaningful to say right now, but I'm a little bit pressed on time. I stopped by to inquire: Is there a "Geno for Smash" or a "Smashboards" Discord Server I can join? I would really appreciate it! Feel free to send me a message! Hope you're all having a good week.

There is for both actually

 

[Griselda]

Currently, my keyboard is having trouble, and I can't use a few keys ( a, s, d ). I'm having to copy-paste letters and use autocorrect for most of this as it is. Would be hilarious in a Monkey's Paw way if Geno gets revealed in the next few days and I can barely type my reaction to it.

 

[Vector Victor]

My patience is tied to the end of next week as far as the reveal is concerned, but I don't think we'll have to wait too much longer. I'm more optimistic now than I've been in a good while

If nothing comes out in the next two weeks, then I'm pretty much done with speculation and waiting. If there's nothing, that destroys the amiibo theory and the ad theory. At that point, there will literally be no indicators left for people to use to potentially narrow down Smash dates. Everyone will be in the dark going forward.

There's only so many times and weeks people can go 'This is it. We are in the end game this week!' before people just throw in the towel and move on to something else. And IF marketing really is connected to Smash reveals, then that's more reason to stop camping out in Nintendo's Twitter everyday since their Marketting Department as been a bungling mess of parody blunders this year.

 

[Snoop_nogg]

Sometimes, just for fun, I see if the Gamestop video is still up, just to keep the hype train going.

 

[Deleted member]

Were there ever amiibo tie-ins to characters in the past?

I second this. Can someone figure this out?

As someone who was invested in Amiibo to an unhealthy level all because I just wanted ****ing Marth and Ness, I feel like I have the slightest qualification to speak on this matter. Smash 4 released Amiibo in no particular order until the DLC amiibo, which came out in the order they were added to the game (being Mewtwo, Lucas, Roy, Ryu, Cloud (Player 2), Bayonetta (Player 2) and Corrin (Player 2). Ultimate released amiibos in waves of 3 + [some amount], and these happened to coincide with the DLC characters being revealed and/or released. Just to do a quick recap on the order:

Wolf, Ridley and Inkling released on Ultimate's launch day. Wolf is actually listed as launching the day before, as he was an online exclusive (in the United States).
Piranha Plant, K. Rool and ICs released around Piranha Plant's launch.
Ken, Young Link and Daisy released around Joker's launch.
Pokemon Trainer, Pichu and Isabelle released just before Hero's launch.
Squirtle, Ivysaur and Snake released a bit after Banjo launched.
Incineroar, Chrom and Simon released a little after Terry's launch.
Richter and Dark Samus released ahead of Byleth.

It is unfortunately very hard for me to pin down exactly which characters re-released alongside these characters, as some amiibo tend to be nearly evergreen in terms of their store presence. The ones I very specifically remember being re-released during this time are Pac-Man, Wii Fit Trainer, Robin and Charizard, as they were characters that I never saw in stores after their initial run so they stood out... but I can't make any promises on when they re-launched. Something to note, however, is that Cloud was re-released once before around the release of Smash Ultimate, if I'm remembering correctly.

I have a big problem with attaching an accurate date to mundane events and tend to underestimate how long ago they actually were, so if I were to take a guess like "yeah I think I saw Pac-Man with the Snake set", I'd likely be wrong. I will note, though, that if it's any help to future researchers, re-released amiibos during the Switch era have a red Nintendo logo on the bottom of the box, rather than the all white/gray one that was used in the Wii U era. It's very easy to tell a re-released amiibo with that in mind.

 

[Paraspikey]

Sometimes, just for fun, I see if the Gamestop video is still up, just to keep the hype train going.

I mean, they already cut out the Geno part in stores.

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[Fatmanonice]

Were there ever amiibo tie-ins to characters in the past?

Technically yes. All of Min Min's Amiibo rereleases were pure first party characters so we were able to confidently deduce that 6 would be a first party character back in February.

 

[Trevenant]

Currently, my keyboard is having trouble, and I can't use a few keys ( a, s, d ). I'm having to copy-paste letters and use autocorrect for most of this as it is. Would be hilarious in a Monkey's Paw way if Geno gets revealed in the next few days and I can barely type my reaction to it.

Tbh most people's reactions live for smash characters on forums is just a bunch of random out of context letters put together so much so that it shouldn't really a reaction making it one of the better type of examples of a reaction ironically enough so awfully appropriate lol

 

[Firox]

On a quick side note, I looked up that Pokemon music video to see what all the hullabaloo was about with Bump of Chicken.....man, that video kicked me right in the feels.

(Though it does make me lament how painfully mediocre the Pokemon anime has been over the years and how incredible it could be if they allowed it to be more "anime" and little less "Pokemon", if you know what I mean.)

 

[Snoop_nogg]

I mean, they already cut out the Geno part in stores.

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But it's still intact on their YouTube channel

 

[epicmartin7]

I guess I'll post this in here too! So... I might be able to mathematically approximate when the next Sakurai showcase is.

TL;DR:

• I made an equation where a DLC Release Date was Y and a Sakurai Showcase was X via Desmos.
• Considering both Y and X are traditionally in close proximity, the equation seems to fit well.
• So, I took Joker and Hero's NA Amiibo Date, and put them into the NA Amiibo Theory equations I had.
• I got three possible release dates found with variations of the same equation (+stdev, -stdev, avg).
• I took all three variations and plugged them into the sakurai showcases equations.
• This means, I got three possible sakurai showcase dates from each release date.
• Meaning, I got 9 sakurai showcase dates overall.

Note: All the data is based on the North American region.

Here's a diagram of everything I got.

Spoiler: Sakurai Dates Diagram

View attachment 287267

However, using current stuff we know, I was able to cross out some stuff and boil things down.

Spoiler: Sakurai Dates Diagram Pinpointed

View attachment 287268

Here's why I boiled things down the way I did:

• The Top Right was crossed out because those dates already exist.
• The Bottom Left was left alone because they can still technically happen. However, I feel October 26th would be too close to Pokemon imo.
• Which is why I circled Oct. 15th and the (AVG) Sakurai Presents Date. Seems like that could be a really good sweetspot.

Of course, please temper your expectations with this. This is still just math. It is not a Magic 8-Ball or anything like that and it is possible for this to be wrong. However, it is fun to think about!

 

[Fatmanonice]

A lot of people are asking about why we're paying so much attention to the Amiibo rereleases so I'll break it down. Our theory since February is that Amiibo rereleases could be predictive of future announcements. There seems to be a very obvious effort to release every Smash 4 Amiibo at least once with Ultimate and to rerelease every new Ultimate Amiibo at least once too. In other words, every Smash 4 Amiibo gets released with Ultimate again and every Ultimate Amiibo gets released twice. To get you all up to speed, the following Smash 4 Amiibo have not been rereleased with Ultimate yet for unknown reasons:

-Peach
-Yoshi
-DK
-Diddy
-Pit
-Dark Pit
-Palutena
-Da Miis (Brawler, Swordfighter, and Gunner)
-Duck Hunt
-ROB
-Game and Watch
-Falco
-Ness
-Lucas
-Kirby
-Corrin

The following Ultimate Amiibo have been rereleased or have a planned rerelease in the near future:

-Young Link
-Daisy
-Squirtle
-Ivysaur
-Isabelle
-Plant
-King K. Rool

Now, the topic at hand... Why are Mario and Cloud rereleasing significant? It's because since September 2018, this is the 2nd time these characters have been rereleased. Mario, for example, was rereleased in September 2018 in preparation for Ultimate. As noted above, there's currently 18 Smash 4 characters that haven't been rereleased at all for Ultimate. One the theories that we have been floating is that it's about timing and that certain rereleases will potentially be tied to future announcements, including Smash.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

I guess I'll post this in here too! So... I might be able to mathematically approximate when the next Sakurai showcase is.

TL;DR:

• I made an equation where a DLC Release Date was Y and a Sakurai Showcase was X via Desmos.
• Considering both Y and X are traditionally in close proximity, the equation seems to fit well.
• So, I took Joker and Hero's NA Amiibo Date, and put them into the NA Amiibo Theory equations I had.
• I got three possible release dates found with variations of the same equation (+stdev, -stdev, avg).
• I took all three variations and plugged them into the sakurai showcases equations.
• This means, I got three possible sakurai showcase dates from each release date.
• Meaning, I got 9 sakurai showcase dates overall.

Note: All the data is based on the North American region.

Here's a diagram of everything I got.

Spoiler: Sakurai Dates Diagram

View attachment 287267

However, using current stuff we know, I was able to cross out some stuff and boil things down.

Spoiler: Sakurai Dates Diagram Pinpointed

View attachment 287268

Here's why I boiled things down the way I did:

• The Top Right was crossed out because those dates already exist.
• The Bottom Left was left alone because they can still technically happen. However, I feel October 26th would be too close to Pokemon imo.
• Which is why I circled Oct. 15th and the (AVG) Sakurai Presents Date. Seems like that could be a really good sweetspot.

Of course, please temper your expectations with this. This is still just math. It is not a Magic 8-Ball or anything like that and it is possible for this to be wrong. However, it is fun to think about!

That’s pretty incredible. I feel that the 4th would work as that’s a weekend and, historically, Nintendo has never done a Sakurai Presents on a Saturday or Sunday. However, we have had Sakurai presents on Thursdays so I can definitely see one getting announced next Wednesday and then it being shown on Thursday of next week. I find this as a very likely scenario.

 

[Enigma735]

Since we're getting re-stocks of Super Mario and Cloud amiibo, let's all make a wish.

I wish Geno will be revealed this Thursday as FP7.

My wish is that we get a double reveal with Geno as FP7 and Crash as FP8.
I also wish that humanity was back to normal as well, that too.

 

[MattX20]

Until tomorrow is over, we can't say for certain it's next week just yet. Also, nice work on your post epicmartin7

 

[Mr. Peepee]

I guess I'll post this in here too! So... I might be able to mathematically approximate when the next Sakurai showcase is.

TL;DR:

• I made an equation where a DLC Release Date was Y and a Sakurai Showcase was X via Desmos.
• Considering both Y and X are traditionally in close proximity, the equation seems to fit well.
• So, I took Joker and Hero's NA Amiibo Date, and put them into the NA Amiibo Theory equations I had.
• I got three possible release dates found with variations of the same equation (+stdev, -stdev, avg).
• I took all three variations and plugged them into the sakurai showcases equations.
• This means, I got three possible sakurai showcase dates from each release date.
• Meaning, I got 9 sakurai showcase dates overall.

Note: All the data is based on the North American region.

Here's a diagram of everything I got.

Spoiler: Sakurai Dates Diagram

View attachment 287267

However, using current stuff we know, I was able to cross out some stuff and boil things down.

Spoiler: Sakurai Dates Diagram Pinpointed

View attachment 287268

Here's why I boiled things down the way I did:

• The Top Right was crossed out because those dates already exist.
• The Bottom Left was left alone because they can still technically happen. However, I feel October 26th would be too close to Pokemon imo.
• Which is why I circled Oct. 15th and the (AVG) Sakurai Presents Date. Seems like that could be a really good sweetspot.

Of course, please temper your expectations with this. This is still just math. It is not a Magic 8-Ball or anything like that and it is possible for this to be wrong. However, it is fun to think about!

Damn, that’s dedication

 

[HanSoloIndie]

I guess I'll post this in here too! So... I might be able to mathematically approximate when the next Sakurai showcase is.

TL;DR:

• I made an equation where a DLC Release Date was Y and a Sakurai Showcase was X via Desmos.
• Considering both Y and X are traditionally in close proximity, the equation seems to fit well.
• So, I took Joker and Hero's NA Amiibo Date, and put them into the NA Amiibo Theory equations I had.
• I got three possible release dates found with variations of the same equation (+stdev, -stdev, avg).
• I took all three variations and plugged them into the sakurai showcases equations.
• This means, I got three possible sakurai showcase dates from each release date.
• Meaning, I got 9 sakurai showcase dates overall.

Note: All the data is based on the North American region.

Here's a diagram of everything I got.

Spoiler: Sakurai Dates Diagram

View attachment 287267

However, using current stuff we know, I was able to cross out some stuff and boil things down.

Spoiler: Sakurai Dates Diagram Pinpointed

View attachment 287268

Here's why I boiled things down the way I did:

• The Top Right was crossed out because those dates already exist.
• The Bottom Left was left alone because they can still technically happen. However, I feel October 26th would be too close to Pokemon imo.
• Which is why I circled Oct. 15th and the (AVG) Sakurai Presents Date. Seems like that could be a really good sweetspot.

Of course, please temper your expectations with this. This is still just math. It is not a Magic 8-Ball or anything like that and it is possible for this to be wrong. However, it is fun to think about!

Heh, as someone who is in and specializes in tutoring up to Calculus 3, this really made my day. Math lovers unite!

 

[epicmartin7]

Heh, as someone who is in and specializes in tutoring up to Calculus 3, this really made my day. Math lovers unite!

Currently in Calc II within college! Math can be fun... unless it's certain integrals. Integrals are okay... just... tedious lmao.

 

[goodspeed87]

Hype recklessly & irresponsibility!! Geno’s time is NIGH!!

 

[pinshadow]

The fact that Crown Tundra isn't releasing until the 22nd is a pretty big HMMMM moment for me because it just makes me wonder why they are waiting three weeks to release it when it's likely finished and it's not like Nintendo has anything else releasing this month between Mario 35 on the 1st and Pikmin 3 on the 30th. Unless one of the weeks also happens to be the release of a certain other expected DLC? I mean no duh, I think everyone is expecting Smash at this point, it's just a question of "do we see it this week or next". The fact Crown Tundra isn't out until the 22nd is annoying since it leaves open both next week and the week after as a potential release. I guess we'll know tonight if they announce something.

 

[MattX20]

The fact that Crown Tundra isn't releasing until the 22nd is a pretty big HMMMM moment for me because it just makes me wonder why they are waiting three weeks to release it when it's likely finished and it's not like Nintendo has anything else releasing this month between Mario 35 on the 1st and Pikmin 3 on the 30th. Unless one of the weeks also happens to be the release of a certain other expected DLC? I mean no duh, I think everyone is expecting Smash at this point, it's just a question of "do we see it this week or next". The fact Crown Tundra isn't out until the 22nd is annoying since it leaves open both next week and the week after as a potential release. I guess we'll know tonight if they announce something.

It's why I'm keeping my eyes open for tomorrow for a potential announcement of the Sakurai Presents/Smash mini direct. If they do continue the 1 week from reveal to release thing Min Min did, it would fall in line with the 7/11 ad and ultimately give us the news we waited so long for

 

[Phoenix Douchebag]

Currently, my keyboard is having trouble, and I can't use a few keys ( a, s, d ). I'm having to copy-paste letters and use autocorrect for most of this as it is. Would be hilarious in a Monkey's Paw way if Geno gets revealed in the next few days and I can barely type my reaction to it.

I feel your pain.

I can't use the number Zero (spelling it with letters because i can't ****ing write it) plus some other keys. Thankfully the whole Alphabet is fine, including the almighty Ñ.

 

[MattX20]

One thing we shouldn't forget regarding the news we got today: the Pokemon Company and Nintendo do their own things regarding scheduling announcements and whatnot. Like usual, Nintendo was probably waiting for all the others to get their thing done, and as noted, we've had Pokemon and Smash news occur in the same week before in June. At any rate, we just need to keep patient just a little while longer. Pinshadow's observation of the Smash photo contest results made it clear to expect something within 2 weeks

 

[pinshadow]

It's why I'm keeping my eyes open for tomorrow for a potential announcement of the Sakurai Presents/Smash mini direct. If they do continue the 1 week from reveal to release thing Min Min did, it would fall in line with the 7/11 ad and ultimately give us the news we waited so long for

Being blunt it could just be tonight, wouldn't be the first time and Pokemon does things whenever they want and Nintendo just kinda has to work with it, if it is Thursday they could have just decided to wait to announce it until tonight to give Pokemon it's own space.

 

[MattX20]

Being blunt it could just be tonight, wouldn't be the first time and Pokemon does things whenever they want and Nintendo just kinda has to work with it, if it is Thursday they could have just decided to wait to announce it until tonight to give Pokemon it's own space.

That's true, but I'm also theorizing tomorrow because of Nintendo usually tending to wait to let others get their stuff out of the way. Pokemon had today as its day to shine (most likely the last time Sword and Shield will get a focus like this), and the rest of the week is free

 

[YsDisciple]

sniff sniff

Hmm... y'all smell that? sniff sniff Smells like... a double Smash reveal with the second one promoting an upcoming game.

lick Hmm... lick tastes like KeroKero Cola.
picks up fruit Hmm... this looks like a Wumpa Fruit.

Sakurai: "Yes Scooby, I will in fact be revealing Geno as Challenger Pack 7, and Crash Bandicoot as Challenger Pack 8. Be sure to check out Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars once it becomes available on the NSO SNES Library later today. Also be sure to check out Crash Bandicoot 4: It's About Time, which will be releasing on Playstation 4, and XBox One this Friday."

 

[CommanderZaktan]

It's why I'm keeping my eyes open for tomorrow for a potential announcement of the Sakurai Presents/Smash mini direct. If they do continue the 1 week from reveal to release thing Min Min did, it would fall in line with the 7/11 ad and ultimately give us the news we waited so long for

Me too. And remember, hype responsibly. It could be Geno. It could be someone else.

 

[Firox]

Currently in Calc II within college! Math can be fun... unless it's certain integrals. Integrals are okay... just... tedious lmao.

As a practicing mechanical engineer, I found it heavily ironic to discover that calculus is almost totally worthless in a practical setting. In my personal experience, the two most useful forms of math for the real world are geometry and trigonometry, aside from the obvious addition, subtraction, etc. Those two can be applied to construction, mechanical design and physics. Everything else is very situational for anyone that isn't a math professor or an algorithm programmer.