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Geno (♥♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior

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xpnc

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Going to be really cathartic when everyone realizes that the fact his costume didn't come back with Hero meant he was going to be in the game. With the very speculative assumption that he'll be shown on the 20th, it will have been year less 10 days since they very unsubtlely nodded to us that Geno is in Smash (Sakurai Presents: Hero was July 30th, 2019)
 

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The one argument on this I've seen commonly brought up is that Square Enix would likely rather have another character in Smash that would be more "relevant" and "beneficial" for them, like 2B or Lara Croft... which falls flat on its face when you remember that Square Enix isn't in charge of picking the Fighters Pass characters.

Instead, according to Sakurai at least, Nintendo is doing the picking, and considering that they keep re-releasing Super Mario RPG (which essentially requires Square Enix's permission, and it also implies that they know the game is popular enough to justify doing so), as well as also picking the characters for the previous pass (meaning Joker, Banjo, and Terry were their choice, not Sakurai's or anyone else's), I think Geno getting in through Nintendo's choice isn't as far-fetched as some would believe.
Trying to view from neutral point... tbf, MS signaled okay for Banjo. (Actively encouraging it) so it wasn't just Nintendo that chose. We still don't know how much SE wants to push Geno.
 

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Trying to view from neutral point... tbf, MS signaled okay for Banjo. (Actively encouraging it) so it wasn't just Nintendo that chose. We still don't know how much SE wants to push Geno.
It was, however, Sakurai's choice to get Cloud over any of the other FF protags that SE offered instead
 

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Trying to view from neutral point... tbf, MS signaled okay for Banjo. (Actively encouraging it) so it wasn't just Nintendo that chose. We still don't know how much SE wants to push Geno.
To be fair, it's still Nintendo's decision in the end, and Banjo & Kazooie were backed up by fan demand (although Nintendo was surprised by the reaction to their reveal so idk). If they want Geno and aren't willing to settle for anyone else, I'm sure they'll get Geno, especially since Square already has two of their biggest franchises in the game and have no real reason to completely deny them.
 
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I'm sure this is like preaching to the choir, here, but there's something innately magical about this song. Like, we all know that the Forest Maze isn't really all that big, but when coupled with this song it feels not exactly 'vast', but 'deep'. Like it's ever expanding inwards. If I listened to this for an hour straight and then someone told me that there was a whole extra town and dungeon hidden somewhere in there that just hasn't been found yet, I think I might actually believe it.
 

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I'm sure this is like preaching to the choir, here, but there's something innately magical about this song. Like, we all know that the Forest Maze isn't really all that big, but when coupled with this song it feels not exactly 'vast', but 'deep'. Like it's ever expanding inwards. If I listened to this for an hour straight and then someone told me that there was a whole extra town and dungeon hidden somewhere in there that just hasn't been found yet, I think I might actually believe it.
When I recently replayed the game, I was surprised how short it actually is. Like 20 hours, but it´s full fun filled 20 hours. All Killer, No Filler. And yet, there is a sense of grandeur to the whole thing.
Personally, I think it´s the black backgrounds on most of the game. It gives them a sense of theatricality, that the Paper franchise kept with.
 

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When I recently replayed the game, I was surprised how short it actually is. Like 20 hours, but it´s full fun filled 20 hours. All Killer, No Filler. And yet, there is a sense of grandeur to the whole thing.
Personally, I think it´s the black backgrounds on most of the game. It gives them a sense of theatricality, that the Paper franchise kept with.
This is probably an odd thing, but for how many times I've played SMRPG, I've actually never beaten it. I've made it to Smithy like twice and just stopped. Sometimes I'll start it up again and get to Land's End and stop there, sometimes I only play up to Geno.
 

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This is probably an odd thing, but for how many times I've played SMRPG, I've actually never beaten it. I've made it to Smithy like twice and just stopped. Sometimes I'll start it up again and get to Land's End and stop there, sometimes I only play up to Geno.
We can replay it plenty of times very soon in the Switch library when Geno gets announced as a playable fighter :)
 

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We can replay it plenty of times very soon in the Switch library when Geno gets announced as a playable fighter :)
To be honest, that's probably the only reason I'd even bother getting Switch Online.
 

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Credits to artist please. I think it’s called FuraFura :)

GENO AWAKENS!
 

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Ah man, I just been hearing about the stuff going on in the smash community today. Some messed up crap. They got that Sky Williams guy practically doing the same thing as Final Fantasy House and all the while he's apparently using Geno's name on his twitter page.
 
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Saw some flack in the Social thread. Let’s just say they probably think the thread is crazy and we hear only what we want to hear. Not gonna call any names, but I will say that is bull. Like the 7 theory and the SMRPG SNES online. We all know how 7 theory turned out and I realized the SNES online may not necessarily hint Geno but I see it as possibility for promotional material but unlikely we will see. I’ve been on this thread for over a week and you guys seem pretty chill. I’ve seen you guys disagree with something everyday from what I’ve seen regarding a hint or theory regarding Geno. The 7 theory we were talking about this for fun and I believe a lot of us were doubting it. When it comes to things being a reach, that’s part of speculation. It should be criticized but not disrespectfully. I remember people saying Dante might be 5 because of DMC announcements. Overwatch on Switch doesn’t mean Tracer is coming, Nintendo talking to Bethesda doesn’t make a Bethesda character confirmed, Rayman deconfirmed because he was in Brawlhala, etc. The rest of the Smash fanbase are no different from us from making some reaches and this is OK taking shots at us? I guess it’s not worth listening to some of these users. Anyway, I think Geno might be in. I don’t care what these guys think.
 
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Ah man, I just been hearing about the stuff going on in the smash community today. Some messed up crap. They got that Sky Williams guy practically doing the same thing as Final Fantasy House and all the while he's apparently using Geno's name on his twitter page.
Oh jeez a Final Fantasy House situation now??
You know I never got the whole 'competitive Smash community' thing, after seeing and hearing everything going down glad my gut told me not to.
 

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My main concern with all this recent Competitive stuff is that I fear people are gonna be deleting historically important Major Tournaments and matches because it features these people.
 
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Saw some flack in the Social thread. Let’s just say they probably think the thread is crazy and we hear only what we want to hear. Not gonna call any names, but I will say that is bull. Like the 7 theory and the SMRPG SNES online. We all know how 7 theory turned out and I realized the SNES online may not necessarily hint Geno but I see it as possibility for promotional material but unlikely we will see. I’ve been on this thread for over a week and you guys seem pretty chill. I’ve seen you you guys disagree with something everyday from what I’ve seen regarding a hint or theory regarding Geno. The 7 theory we were talking about this for fun and I believe a lot of us were doubting it. When it comes to things being a reach, that’s part of speculation. It should be criticized but not disrespectfully. I remember people saying Dante might be 5 because of DMC announcements. Overwatch on Switch doesn’t mean Tracer is coming, Nintendo talking to Bethesda doesn’t make a Bethesda character confirmed, Rayman deconfirmed because he was in Brawlhala, etc. The rest of the Smash fanbase are no different from us from making some reaches and this is OK taking shots at us? I guess it’s not worth listening to some of these users. Anyway, I think Geno might be in. I don’t care what these guys think.
Those people can be disgusting. And it's always the same people.
 

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Ah man, I just been hearing about the stuff going on in the smash community today. Some messed up crap. They got that Sky Williams guy practically doing the same thing as Final Fantasy House and all the while he's apparently using Geno's name on his twitter page.
Don't think about it too hard man, I doubt the scandal would affect the dude's chances. There have been some other atrocious or really ****ty things that happened under the name of a [insert character here] for Smash supporter. It'll come and go and change nothing by the end of things.
 

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This is probably an odd thing, but for how many times I've played SMRPG, I've actually never beaten it. I've made it to Smithy like twice and just stopped. Sometimes I'll start it up again and get to Land's End and stop there, sometimes I only play up to Geno.
Why? Curse of the deleted saves?
It´s just weird to stop, but it does happen to me. Ocarina has that story with me. Always till the Ice level as adult link. Never finished it. That said, I love both OOT and SMRPG ending credits sequences
 

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Why? Curse of the deleted saves?
It´s just weird to stop, but it does happen to me. Ocarina has that story with me. Always till the Ice level as adult link. Never finished it. That said, I love both OOT and SMRPG ending credits sequences
Other things come up and I get distracted, I start other games and forget, etc. Another part of it is that I have SMRPG on four-ish consoles. And also that whenever I stay away from an RPG too long it feels weird jumping back in, so I usually just start over.
 

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How long til we can expect people to ask him on Twitter about making a Down the Rabbit Hole on any of these Smash competitors?
He is probably already bombed about DMs about that. I know he said how his DMs were flooded after the Channel Awesome allegations, so I would be surprised if there will be nothing here.
 

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Again, the competitive Smash scene only makes up a small portion of the playerbase, and a lot of people that wanted Geno weren't scummy like that. We shouldn't let that taint our enjoyment of the game or the character
 

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Allegedly the 20th for the Direct, which sounds great because it gives us more time to hit 3000 pages, BUT! If we’re getting NSO announcements, why so soon after the other NSO announcement? Wouldn’t it be better just to lump them all together—especially with a heavy hitter like DKC?

The 14th would’ve made more sense so they could shadowdrop the other NSO games the following day, but I digress.
 

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Saw some flack in the Social thread. Let’s just say they probably think the thread is crazy and we hear only what we want to hear. Not gonna call any names, but I will say that is bull. Like the 7 theory and the SMRPG SNES online. We all know how 7 theory turned out and I realized the SNES online may not necessarily hint Geno but I see it as possibility for promotional material but unlikely we will see. I’ve been on this thread for over a week and you guys seem pretty chill. I’ve seen you guys disagree with something everyday from what I’ve seen regarding a hint or theory regarding Geno. The 7 theory we were talking about this for fun and I believe a lot of us were doubting it. When it comes to things being a reach, that’s part of speculation. It should be criticized but not disrespectfully. I remember people saying Dante might be 5 because of DMC announcements. Overwatch on Switch doesn’t mean Tracer is coming, Nintendo talking to Bethesda doesn’t make a Bethesda character confirmed, Rayman deconfirmed because he was in Brawlhala, etc. The rest of the Smash fanbase are no different from us from making some reaches and this is OK taking shots at us? I guess it’s not worth listening to some of these users. Anyway, I think Geno might be in. I don’t care what these guys think.
Y'all only just now realizing how toxic the social boards are?

Needless to say, there's many reasons why I left this site for a long time, and this is one of them lol. Props to the people there who ARE shooting down people being up in arms because those damn Geno fans, look at them BREATHING, I HATE them.
 

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So, potential Direct on July 20th. Murmurs that character 7 is a potential Mario character. Origami King comes out three days before this. Some DLC has been used as tie-ins for games.

Is it possible?
 

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So, potential Direct on July 20th. Murmurs that character 7 is a potential Mario character. Origami King comes out three days before this. Some DLC has been used as tie-ins for games.

Is it possible?
“Paper Waluigi in a Blue Cape joins the battle!”

Also I’ve been awol for a few days - where’s this info about murmurs that character 7 is from Mario? I’m just gonna scroll back a few pages...
 
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So, potential Direct on July 20th. Murmurs that character 7 is a potential Mario character. Origami King comes out three days before this. Some DLC has been used as tie-ins for games.

Is it possible?
PM Geno + Mallow DLC lookin more and more likely!

This Direct focusing exclusively on Mario stuff would explain why Nintendo told 3rd Parties not to send them anything until September.
 
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Saw some flack in the Social thread. Let’s just say they probably think the thread is crazy and we hear only what we want to hear. Not gonna call any names, but I will say that is bull. Like the 7 theory and the SMRPG SNES online. We all know how 7 theory turned out and I realized the SNES online may not necessarily hint Geno but I see it as possibility for promotional material but unlikely we will see. I’ve been on this thread for over a week and you guys seem pretty chill. I’ve seen you guys disagree with something everyday from what I’ve seen regarding a hint or theory regarding Geno. The 7 theory we were talking about this for fun and I believe a lot of us were doubting it. When it comes to things being a reach, that’s part of speculation. It should be criticized but not disrespectfully. I remember people saying Dante might be 5 because of DMC announcements. Overwatch on Switch doesn’t mean Tracer is coming, Nintendo talking to Bethesda doesn’t make a Bethesda character confirmed, Rayman deconfirmed because he was in Brawlhala, etc. The rest of the Smash fanbase are no different from us from making some reaches and this is OK taking shots at us? I guess it’s not worth listening to some of these users. Anyway, I think Geno might be in. I don’t care what these guys think.
PREACH! I posted my predictions in the newcomer thread to see what they had to think and as soon as I mentioned Geno in my predictions, EVERYONE started going at me saying that this stuff in Geno's favor means nothing and that he will never be in Smash. I just don't get why Tracer supporters are allowed to stretch by thinking an Overwatch Switch case meant something for Tracer being in Smash, or how Dante supporters were allowed to stretch by thinking several DMC announcements meant for sure that Dante is Fighter #5, but as soon as us Geno supporters make a stretching theory, it somehow isn't okay? I don't understand what the Smash community has against us. We haven't done anything to them to deserve getting treated this way. People also acted like this to Ridley supporters, K. Rool supporters and Banjo supporters and yet, they were the ones that came out victoriously. People wonder why this along with the Ridley, K. Rool and Banjo threads are as big as they are and that's because people make fun of us everywhere else on the website so this is like our "safe space", where Geno supporters can come together and speculate about Smash without some jerk saying our character will never happen.

I would just ignore them all together. I have learned that if the Smash community says a character will never happen, 10 times out of 10 that character will most likely happen.
 

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I never understood why people are like that. Clearly not everyone has to want or like the same characters, but like, let the people that like them, like them. Unless I’m mistaken, there aren’t people from this thread that go into general threads and force people to want to like Geno (or any other character). There’s no harm from people like us wanting him in there, or any character, even impossible ones like Goku or whatever. It’s Nintendo’s choice in the end, it’s not like 50 people on a U.S. board of a niche website is going to make any difference at all. A little speculation, realistic or not (though I think the list of evidence and details is convincing enough personally that he has a shot), is doing no harm.

It’s like anything in life, if you don’t like it, don’t involve yourself. Don’t like hamburgers? Don’t go into a hamburger shop saying how bad or stupid hamburgers are. The internet is a weird place, haha.

Same thing happened with Banjo, yet here we are. I’m hoping Geno makes it, mostly for all of the fans here that want him, and whether his chances are good or not, they’re definitely not 0, and that was enough to hold onto for me with Banjo.

Hopefully the next direct gives us some good news.
 

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Y'all only just now realizing how toxic the social boards are?

Needless to say, there's many reasons why I left this site for a long time, and this is one of them lol. Props to the people there who ARE shooting down people being up in arms because those damn Geno fans, look at them BREATHING, I HATE them.
Yep, and there is going to be some toxicity when/if Geno is confirmed. Not Byleth levels, but it'll still be there
 
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Best you can do is report them, and hope the mod team does something about it. Let's be honest, they probably won't, but it's worth a shot at least.
 

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Y'all only just now realizing how toxic the social boards are?

Needless to say, there's many reasons why I left this site for a long time, and this is one of them lol. Props to the people there who ARE shooting down people being up in arms because those damn Geno fans, look at them BREATHING, I HATE them.
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>When the Geno fanbase is at it again and they drive you to drink.
 

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Y'all only just now realizing how toxic the social boards are?

Needless to say, there's many reasons why I left this site for a long time, and this is one of them lol. Props to the people there who ARE shooting down people being up in arms because those damn Geno fans, look at them BREATHING, I HATE them.
Saw some flack in the Social thread. Let’s just say they probably think the thread is crazy and we hear only what we want to hear. Not gonna call any names, but I will say that is bull. Like the 7 theory and the SMRPG SNES online. We all know how 7 theory turned out and I realized the SNES online may not necessarily hint Geno but I see it as possibility for promotional material but unlikely we will see. I’ve been on this thread for over a week and you guys seem pretty chill. I’ve seen you guys disagree with something everyday from what I’ve seen regarding a hint or theory regarding Geno. The 7 theory we were talking about this for fun and I believe a lot of us were doubting it. When it comes to things being a reach, that’s part of speculation. It should be criticized but not disrespectfully. I remember people saying Dante might be 5 because of DMC announcements. Overwatch on Switch doesn’t mean Tracer is coming, Nintendo talking to Bethesda doesn’t make a Bethesda character confirmed, Rayman deconfirmed because he was in Brawlhala, etc. The rest of the Smash fanbase are no different from us from making some reaches and this is OK taking shots at us? I guess it’s not worth listening to some of these users. Anyway, I think Geno might be in. I don’t care what these guys think.
Tell me about it. I actually made a PM between some members here who go to this Geno thread about Fatmanonice Fatmanonice . Basically, I said that the others from other threads say that we listen to Fatman because we want to hear what we want to hear. That said, I went on and said that that is just a facade, the outside appearance of things. Appearances can be deceiving. I was pretty sure what the others from other threads said was not the case, and there is more to why we listened to Fatman than they think. I then asked for the other reasons as to why. The ones I PMed gave good reasons, including that he puts time and thought into these theories of his and he is a good friend/good guy. It's the case that the outsiders who aren't a part of this thread don't seem to know us or Fatmanonice well.

This kind of generalization is uncivilized.
 
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It does tend to be the same people.

Tell me about it. I actually made a PM between some members here who go to this Geno thread about Fatmanonice Fatmanonice . Basically, I said that the others from other threads say that we listen to Fatman because we want to hear what we want to hear. That said, I went on and said that that is just a facade, the outside appearance of things. Appearances can be deceiving. I was pretty sure what the others from other threads said was not the case, and there is more to why we listened to Fatman than they think. I then asked for the other reasons as to why. The ones I PMed gave good reasons, including that he puts time and thought into these theories of his and he is a good friend/good guy. It's the case that the outsiders who aren't a part of this thread don't seem to know us or Fatmanonice well.

This kind of generalization is uncivilized.
And the kind of generalization that is actively harming the fanbase. And the type of generalization that can even be encouraged.

You see anyone calling us a cult? I'd report that straight away. If I did that to the Sora fanbase, or Steve fanbase, people would be up in arms. And like I said, it's the same people.

Make it clear that this is *not* okay.
 
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