I think the people outside this thread who hate it tend to do so for coming in at a bad time in the past, and not fully understanding what was going on, and/or maybe not reading our posts carefully and so they think we’re all mindless and willing to 100% believe in literally everything that could be in Geno’s favor, as if we don’t do a good job keeping our expectations in check on our own or are calm and perfectly fine about it if we do think he’s definitely in.
The thread has had its “upsets” in the past, and sometimes people can be too quick to judge someone who was just disagreeing on some info, but personally I don’t blame anyone. Given how the people outside this thread treat us when we start showing why we believe Geno has a good shot, or what they say literally almost every time Geno is brought up outside of here, it’s kinda hard to not feel bitter about any outsiders coming in here just to be negative - the thread’s “upsets” mainly just being because people couldn’t hold themselves back from jumping on trolls who came in here, and the mods just wanted to clean stuff up while some of us calmed down. I even remember one troll who asked why we liked Geno, and even after multiple users explained why, they would say they don’t personally want him or something to that effect, which is fine, but they also kept asking the same question over and over even after it was explained to them, so it felt like they were either not using their gnoggin or were simply not being genuine and just wanting to prod us (the thread wasn’t locked over this specific troll, though).
There’s also the people who have called us “cultists” with Fatman as the crazed leader being a serial liar, when if they actually spent time in here and read our posts, they would know that isn’t true. Apparently the speculation in here is also “unhealthy” as if it isn’t literally what every other active support thread has been doing/has done, trying to find how their character is likely and stuff like that, and as if the people outside this thread (including some of the ones who think we’re “unhealthy”) who have actual unhealthy behaviors towards us, being rude and dismissive and stuff when we’ve tried to be kind and civil, are somehow perfectly fine.
Then there’s the stuff surrounding Fatman, whom I genuinely feel bad for and I wish it would all stop. Not only are we all given crap for believing he’s being truthful and respecting him, as you should anyone you believe to be a good human being/even people you don’t know if they haven’t proven to be bad, but regarding Fatman himself, he gets the worst of why this thread is hated on, as people outside here believe him to be a liar and a fraud when there’s literally no evidence he is, and a lot of people have harassed him over it and I think they’ve done other bad stuff even going as far as to threaten his family or something. Fatman doesn’t deserve any of this stupid, horrible crap; even if he was lying and stuff, you don’t frickin harass/do stupid and horrible stuff like that to anyone. Some people also read what he says wrong, then spread it as misinfo. Fatman has been right about stuff and even has people backing him up, including a dude who didn’t like us nor him before talking to him in private and the dude also backed up what he said about the Cuphead mii, but no, we’re all delusional and Fatman is just a serial liar desperate for even the smallest amount of internet clout.
Not to mention, one of the dudes they wanted to shut down Fatman in the past ended up coming to an understanding with him and any claims he may have made about Fatman “lying” before understanding him was about stuff that actually existed and ignored how Fatman never claimed it all as 100% even making it clear he was theorizing based on stuff, and one of the dudes who is a big part of why Fatman is seen as this “serial liar” in reality turned out to be a big egomaniac and serial liar himself (gee who could’ve possibly saw this coming it was so surprising that such a big leaker personality on Twitter got outed for terrible crap he’s done and his lies and his obvious, extreme narcissism - yes I kept an open mind about the Paragon stuff but even then I suspected he was lying about that and I just brought it up in here because y’know I wasn’t completely sure and stuff and I didn’t want to assume stuff surrounding serious claims and get told off for victim blaming and stuff like that).
Apparently all of the theories in here are conspiracy-level, too, whether it’s Fatman’s or someone else’s, despite being based on actual info/patterns and stuff and other people outside this thread have had similar thoughts in the past or actually have had huge stretches, but the Geno thread gets the brunt of it all even at the slightest stretch in a theory. We also get flack for being an echo chamber, as if a Geno support thread being full of support for Geno and reasons he may get in - like other support threads - is somehow a bad thing for us alone. We may not like it when other people come in just to be negative about Geno’s chances, but it’s not because we think he couldn’t possibly be left out - nah, it’s because some of these people are rude and try to police our thoughts, while any users who doubt some info and stuff but are polite about it are understandable and perfectly fine.
tl;dr people hate us, people who may not hate us may still hate it when we say why we think Geno has a good shot, the thread has had past upsets but they were understandable due to trolls and stuff, we’re somehow cultists and Fatman is our leader, Fatman is somehow a fraud and why I’m sure he isn’t, we’re a bad bad echo chamber for some reason, theories from people in here are looney bin theories for some unexplained reason.
Not sure if I got everything related to this stuff, but y’all feel free to say some stuff too if I missed anything.
