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Whoa, I saw a tweet about this earlier today. This tournament is legit?!?! Nintendo going in Day 1 of this new year?!?!
In the meantime... quick! What games were notably popular during the GameCube era?! 
I'm not so sure about that. Geno definitely should have been in Brawl but Melee is debatable.Geno should've been in Melee...hindsight is 2020.
Thank you baby Jesus. This drought is near it's end let's go!
I don't think we will see Geno. But I definitely think we will see him in the Direct after that and before E3 if Fatman's theories are correct.
Isn't Fatman's theory built on the rumors he heard about there being 6 post-fighter's pass characters? I'm not sure I believe those rumors. My personal hunch is that all post-fighter's pass characters will be single DLC packs, and I think Geno has a pretty good chance of being the first.
Honestly, I feel like we could actually see Geno in the next Direct. He would be the perfect way to start off the new wave of DLC while also being a highly requested character to please the Smash community. If he’s shown, I think he would come out in March since that’s the month of Mario RPG’s anniversary.
That's exactly what I think too, but a March release might be a little too optimistic.
Not exactly. The Power of Six theory is a theory from a GameFaqs user and the theory is that all the Smash 4 Mii costumes were originally suppose to be in all the Challenger Packs along with Joker, Hero, Banjo & Kazooie, Terry, and #75. There are still seven costumes from Smash 4 that have yet to return Geno, Chocobo, Heihachi, Lloyd, Gil, Mega Man EXE, and Mega Man X. Fatman's crafts his current theories around this one and he believes Geno and Chocobo were suppose to come with Hero originally but got moved to post Season Pass once that became a thing. It has been rumored post Season Pass DLC didn't become a thing until June when Nintendo saw how well the DLC has been selling take that with a grain of salt if you will. But yeah, Fatman mentions how there is a theme going on with the missing Mii costumes Lloyd and Gil being sword users, Geno and the Mega Mans being gun users, ect. He thinks those costumes will come back with those cert of characters related to the costumes fighter, gunner, ect.
Freakin' FINALLY!
Pretty low, to be honest. I highly doubt he'll be FP5, and being right after FP5 seems unlikely, though not impossible. As I've said before, if we are to get Geno this year, I think our best bet will be E3 2020. The past two E3s have seen at least one highly requested character be revealed for the game: Ridley in 2018, and Banjo (Hero to a lesser extent) in 2019, so odds are good that this upcoming E3 will be when Geno comes to the game, IF he comes to the game, which I think based on what we know thus far is pretty likely.
The only time we've seen two fighters being revealed at the same time with regards to Ultimate DLC is during E3 2019, so I'm doubtful that we'll see even two new fighters revealed during this upcoming Direct.
Two wouldn't surprise me but three definitely ain't happening. In no why possible I see three unique characters getting revealed in the next Direct. If it can't happen at E3 or a Smash Direct, it can't happen anywhere. And no the August Smash Direct doesn't count because three of the five characters revealed in that Direct were Echos.
I have certain reasons for why I would rather forget 2019 ever happened.
Not exactly, but there's going to be both the first of the announced Splatoon 2 updates and Switch maintenance happening on the 6th (first full week of January), and we've just been made aware of some new blank Switch SKUs which are usually an indication of a new Direct happening soon, so it's pretty likely something is going down sooner rather than later.
Plus we have the next wave of Amiibo releasing on the 17th.
New blank Switch SKUs? When and where was this?
Scroll up, my friend
"Five, Lloyd has been heard in insider circles since last fall. Surely that means something. I could go on but I won't."
Fatmanonice
first of, please stop calling people like Hitagi insiders when they are known to have been exposed as a fraud. And still giving any thought to what someone like him once said is pointless, those claims were from late 2018, nobody even knew post-pass DLC existed (everybody speculated about it but nobody knew) and when actual credible leakers don't even know who character 5 is, do you really think a faker knows a post-pass character so far in advance when he was most likely not even planned or even decided by Sakurai yet?
JudgeHeihachi, welcome back to Smashboards. It's worth remembering that Fatman actually did say that he could see Heihachi in the Lloyd slot in this most recent post. Your argument about sales and the possibility of Sakurai changing his mind stands and I definitely think merits consideration but I don't necessarily think that Fatman is only going with Lloyd based on "the bubble [he's] living in." If we assume that the tone of upcoming DLC does ultimately prioritize characters that mean more to the Smash fanbase in particular (a big assumption, but this is speculation after all) then Lloyd definitely has a slight edge on Heihachi, to say nothing of the easier time the development team would have implementing a jrpg swordsman with existing assets. All in all, I see this as spec on spec, with two of the best in the game going at it."Five, Lloyd has been heard in insider circles since last fall. Surely that means something. I could go on but I won't."
Second, let's look into Sakurai's exact quote concerning Heihachi:
https://www.sourcegaming.info/2015/06/26/800/
"Interviewer: Between Bandai and Namco, were there any other strong candidates for inclusion as a fighter?
Sakurai: There were none. We basically thought of all the characters at the start of development. We decided on characters we knew we could make. However, there were a few in consideration, such as Heihachi from “Tekken.”
Interviewer: Heihachi!
Sakurai: That’s right. However, implementing Heihachi’s movement in Smash would be difficult…
Interviewer: It reminds me of the reaction when Snake was from “Metal Gear” was announced."
So if we assume his statement concerning Heihachi's difficulty is permanent and can not be changed, do you also know which statement might as well also be permanent?
"There were none" as the answer to the question if there are contenders for another Bandai Namco rep. You fail to see that Lloyd most likely would have some difficulties too or else he would have been a contender already.
But actually hat's not my main point as Sakurai can change his mind about things. I bet you were adamant Ridley could never be in Smash after he was shut down for being "too big"? Or after Brawl when Sakurai said Villager was not included as it is too hard to come up with a moveset as he does nothing canonically in his games that resembles fighting? I guess we'll never see the Villager in Smash then. Or how he said Pac-Man was conaidered for Brawl but his moveset was too difficult to come up with? Yeah must totally be a death sentence for a character.
https://nintendoeverything.com/saku...wl-talks-about-choosing-smash-bros-character/
But you clinch onto a quote (and only the half of the quote you want to hear and not the one about no serious contenders) that happened that originates from 2014 and was just translated into English in 2015, so it is from a time before we even got our first fighting game rep with Ryu into the game. He probably didn't even know at this point how to integrate fighting game reps at all imto Smash. You can see how Sakurai already gained experience as Terry is way more complex than the Ryu and Ken duo. Heihachi would be the next step. It's obvious how Heihachi was too difficult to be the first fighting game rep when easier to implement ones worked better as a firat step.
Third, the fan demand about Lloyd is just an echo-chamber thing. Harada himself (for who do not know him the Tekken director and since early 2019 General Manager at Bandai Namco) specifically stated that Tekken characters got way more requests than Tales or Gundam characters:
"The fans, rather than asking about Tales or Gundam or some of our other franchises, the fans abroad saw Tekken as one of the key words and took off on that," he says. "We're not really sure at this moment but when thinking of the playerbase who is playing Smash Bros., maybe Tekken characters is something they wouldn't want, so I've been pulling back on that a bit. But I don't know."
https://www.engadget.com/2012/07/10/harada-pulling-back-on-idea-of-tekken-characters-in-new-smash/
And one last thing. Tekken selling better than Tales does matter. Besides Capcom and Microsoft whi were specifically contacted because their chosen characters were among the most wanted of their respective times we always got the best selling franchises first.
Best example: Square Enix:
First SE character we got? From their best selling series Final Fantasy.
Second SE character we got? From their second best selling series Dragon Quest.
We did not get Geno before Hero. But oh remember how you once told people how Dragon Quest will absolutely not be in Smash and we are gonna get Geno instead? I bet you'll have an as bad awakening when we get Tekken character and no Tales character:
https://smashboards.com/threads/geno-♥♪-return-of-the-starsend-savior.446378/page-290#post-22702309
Fifth the quote about Terry being it's mor important to be fun than recognizable still does not mean being unrecognizable is ok. Terry still is the face of SNK and represents them and their many fighting game series that helped form the FGC landscape. But we know it already you only know stuff from the bubble you're living in...
Not gonna lie, a mushroom costume would be dopeI never thought about this but now I want it
Imagine a mushroom costume
YO THIS NEVER CROSSED MY MIND!!! This would actually be sick af!
Scarecrow alt skin would actually be a 4D Chess move!
I feel it's possible but if there's only one character revealed I'm not betting on it.
