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General Final Fantasy Discussion - Final Fantasy XII remake incoming!

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I got them linked from a friend, actually. I'll upload them to my photobucket or a tinypic or something and slap them up in a bit for you.
 

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Gilgamesh and Laguna make this game perfect. I suspect Barthandalus will appear as FFXIII's antagonist.

Considering they're only adding characters from the SNES era onwards, If I could add three more, I would add:
1. Locke [FFVI]
2. Odin (to counter Gilgamesh; allied with Cosmos) [FFIX]
3a. New FFXIII Purple Guy [FFXIII-2]
3b. or Noctis [FFvXIII]

And if I could add three more stages:
1. Midgar [FFVII]
2. Lunatic Pandora [FFVIII]
3. Mt. Gagazet [FFX]

Also:
Though I hate FFXI for what is and has become, Prishe was such a bad***.

This looks so cool :D
 

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Though I hate FFXI for what is and has become, Prishe was such a bad***.

This looks so cool :D
I'm so ridiculously excited for this. I was going to get Dissidia a while back but I decided to hold off just because this is coming out.

As for FFXI... I've tried three times to get into that game. You might say that I'm just a n00b who is used to being babied or whatever but am I supposed to get curb stomped on my first quest?

Ugh, I want a good FF MMORPG so bad.
 

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I'm so ridiculously excited for this. I was going to get Dissidia a while back but I decided to hold off just because this is coming out.

As for FFXI... I've tried three times to get into that game. You might say that I'm just a n00b who is used to being babied or whatever but am I supposed to get curb stomped on my first quest?

Ugh, I want a good FF MMORPG so bad.
Na the game is terrible. The story is amazing though. Prishe..god she was epic.
 

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Na the game is terrible. The story is amazing though. Prishe..god she was epic.
I want to look this Prishe person up, sounds interesting.

But yeah, FFXI was a game I wanted to be good but it just isn't. It's an MMO that's trapped in 2003 IMO (just like most of SE these days).
 

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I want to look this Prishe person up, sounds interesting.

But yeah, FFXI was a game I wanted to be good but it just isn't. It's an MMO that's trapped in 2003 IMO (just like most of SE these days).
She was turned immortal, she helped your party into AlTaeiu (forgive me for butchering the name, it's been to long)

Ultimately, she helped you go into god's realm to prevent them from engulfing Vanadiel in an apocalyptic war. She even aids you in the fight against the Virtue(god) as a hardcore npc. There is videos of her practically soloing the thing lulz.

Of course, now that the level cap is 90 or w/e instead of 75, I'd imagine anyone can solo it...
 

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She was turned immortal, she helped your party into AlTaeiu (forgive me for butchering the name, it's been to long)

Ultimately, she helped you go into god's realm to prevent them from engulfing Vanadiel in an apocalyptic war. She even aids you in the fight against the Virtue(god) as a hardcore npc. There is videos of her practically soloing the thing lulz.
Sounds pretty awesome. I've heard that XI's story was one of the game's biggest draws.

Of course, now that the level cap is 90 or w/e instead of 75, I'd imagine anyone can solo it...
And I've heard that they dropped the difficultly by a lot too, so... yeah.

ANYWAY!

In other news, new FFVXIII trailer. Has game play, is blurry as ****.

http://www.gamesradar.com/ps3/final...h/a-2011012010418913074/g-2011011862754207030
 

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Wasn't that trailer for FFversusXIII already posted? I know I've seen it somewhere.
 

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Wasn't that trailer for FFversusXIII already posted? I know I've seen it somewhere.
It reuses a lot of stuff from earlier trailers, at first I thought I had seen it before but I went back and couldn't find the same thing with an older date attached to it.
 

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No, I remember seeing that exact trailer before.

Maybe I saw it on Kotaku or something. I thought it was posted here but I guess not.
 

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For most of it, anyways.

He helped right FFXI, Rise of Zilart, Promathia, and some Aht Urghan iirc. (Not sure though) All the crappy add ons for 10 dollars, Wings of the Goddess, and Abyssia are bland and terrible imho.

I've played them all but Abyssia so I can say that with experience. As for Abyssia, all my friends said it had no real story. XD

@XIII-2, I gotta beat XIII Fast :D
 

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I think what I liked least about XIII was the theme song "My Hands" sung by Leona Lewis. I could handle "Eyes On Me" in FFVIII because it tied in with Laguna and Julia's romance. "Memories of Life" in FFIX just worked beautifully and sounded fantastic. My Hands did not feel rightfully placed in the game, felt more like a song slapped on a commercial or something. As such, it distilled the immersion and transformed the experience into a very artificial one, making the whole game less of a fantasy that I could get wholly lost in, and more as a product that I spent $60.00 on.

Really, music is what has carried the series on for so long—all in part to Nobuo Uematsu. I think FFXII and XIII have wonderful soundtracks, but they don't carry the magic that Uematsu's work conveys. Slap a pop song on a game and you've just about ruined it. Similar to a ton of anime cartoons. In the opening and closing credits they'll play some J-Pop song and it just ruins it. Cowboy Bebop successfully had the coolest intro song ever, and its closing song "Real Life Blues" was equally as good because of how well it played off the imagery presented with it and with the story and feel of the series. I guess my point is that if you're going to incorporate lyrical songs into anime/video games, make sure you do it right. Pop music isn't always the way to go. Never ****ing again in Final Fantasy or there will be hell to pay.
 

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I think what I liked least about XIII was the theme song "My Hands" sung by Leona Lewis. I could handle "Eyes On Me" in FFVIII because it tied in with Laguna and Julia's romance. "Memories of Life" in FFIX just worked beautifully and sounded fantastic. My Hands did not feel rightfully placed in the game, felt more like a song slapped on a commercial or something. As such, it distilled the immersion and transformed the experience into a very artificial one, making the whole game less of a fantasy that I could get wholly lost in, and more as a product that I spent $60.00 on.

Really, music is what has carried the series on for so long—all in part to Nobuo Uematsu. I think FFXII and XIII have wonderful soundtracks, but they don't carry the magic that Uematsu's work conveys. Slap a pop song on a game and you've just about ruined it. Similar to a ton of anime cartoons. In the opening and closing credits they'll play some J-Pop song and it just ruins it. Cowboy Bebop successfully had the coolest intro song ever, and its closing song "Real Life Blues" was equally as good because of how well it played off the imagery presented with it and with the story and feel of the series. I guess my point is that if you're going to incorporate lyrical songs into anime/video games, make sure you do it right. Pop music isn't always the way to go. Never ****ing again in Final Fantasy or there will be hell to pay.
This for truth. Though I liked Sunleth Waterscape(sp) and the main theme of XIII.

But agreed, Nobou(sp) was epic. I downloaded his FF soundtrackII recently. It had some great songs, such as..

DANCING MAD<33333333333333333
 

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People are going to hate me, but I found FFXIII's soundtrack to be one of the better FF soundtracks. To me the music seemed to fit what you were doing and where you were at very well.

Also Kimi ga Irukara> My Hands. The English versions of ending songs are rarely ever better than the Japanese ones.
 

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People are going to hate me, but I found FFXIII's soundtrack to be one of the better FF soundtracks. To me the music seemed to fit what you were doing and where you were at very well.

Also Kimi ga Irukara> My Hands. The English versions of ending songs are rarely ever better than the Japanese ones.
Na, if you like it you like it, eh?

I liked the soundtrack; it was more or less the pop music...
 

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Uematsu wishes he could take claim to a song as awesome as Blinded by Light. (XIII's battle theme)

XD It's one of my favorites in the entire series.
 

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Japanese songs in an English version has never been a problem in the past. XD Suteki Da Ne for FFX was still there in English. And in X-2, at least the songs were still the same to an extent just turned into English.

I woulda loved to hear Kimi ga Irukara in the ending for FFXIII. Alas.
 

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People are going to hate me, but I found FFXIII's soundtrack to be one of the better FF soundtracks.
I agree. Most of the songs were variations on the main battle theme, but that's not necessarily a bad thing, nor is it a first for the series. The Leona Lewis song sucked, but it definitely wasn't the worst part of the game.

Of course, I play games for, you know, gameplay, so maybe I have a skewed perspective on it.
 

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He looks the same to me.

Can you still play him basically the same way as Zidane? That's pretty much how I played him in Dissidia 1.

So if I'm seeing this correctly, EX Force go to the assist meter before they go to the EX meter? That's pretty awesome, I think it'll do a lot to balance the game. Are they taking out EX Cores too? Nevermind, I just saw one. Taking out those would help with balance too, but whatever, it's not a big deal I suppose.
 

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Oh nice he looks like the Fighter, meaning he looks like he has some balls.

He really doesn't look like he plays that differently but I love the new costume.
 

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I'm not sure what your saying with the Zidane part.

EX still goes to EX. You gain assist meter by Dodging Blocking and landing attacks. It doesn't go up if your using an assist to combo though.
 

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He looks the same to me.

Can you still play him basically the same way as Zidane? That's pretty much how I played him in Dissidia 1.
From what I've noticed in the video.

He's gained a new HP Attack, as well as an Aerial Day Flash. His "buckler" attacks no longer initiate Chase. Shield of Light can now be used at more of an angle, dependent on the opponent's position. Sword Thrust's initial shield throw has some vertical tracking.
 

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I'm not sure what your saying with the Zidane part.
WoL has a bunch of aerial Brave attacks that are similar to Zidane's and they all lead into HP attacks like Zidane's (Shield Strike is an air Brave attack that hits below you and leads into Bitter End - Tempest is an air Brave attack that hits below you and leads into Meo Twister; Crossover is an air brave attack that hits in front of you and can either put in a chase or lead to Rune Saber - Swift Attack is an air brave attack that hits in front of you and can either put in a chase or lead to Meo Twister; etc.). They also both have some pretty crappy HP attacks, though they both have one that can reflect Emperor's Flare (Shining Wave and Stellar Circle 5) but Zidane at least has Free Energy and Shift Break (Though WoL has a ranged HP attack which is good for annoying and Shield of Light which is a good counter move).

They don't play exactly the same but the basic gameplan is aerial rushdown in both cases.

EX still goes to EX. You gain assist meter by Dodging Blocking and landing attacks. It doesn't go up if your using an assist to combo though.
Oh, I guess they just gain it really slowly then.


He's gained a new HP Attack, as well as an Aerial Day Flash. His "buckler" attacks no longer initiate Chase. Shield of Light can now be used at more of an angle, dependent on the opponent's position. Sword Thrust's initial shield throw has some vertical tracking.
New HP attack could be good or bad.

Aerial Day Flash probably won't help that much. IIRC, Day Flash had crap range so idk why I would want to use it in the air.

Buckler attacks not activating chase is no big deal as long as they still link into Bitter End.

Are you saying that Shield of Light kind of tracks?

Sword Thrust tracking vertically is good.
 
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