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Sieg

Smash Champion
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I feel we should all leave the scene then rejoin it.

Playing this game was so much better when we came in after Melee had been out like 2 years and everyone had sorted this **** already.

I hate joining game scenes when games first come out, especially with fighters.

Always so much crap to ***** about lol.
 

Zero

Smash Hero
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Neither. There's honestly no need for any Australian tournament to ban MK. Unless all of the American ones move over here.
 

tedeth

Smash Master
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I'm pro ban. The issue isn't even necessarily with the top players. The issue of MKs ridiculousness can be seen all over the skill spectrum, though that's not to say that MK doesn't effect top level play aswell.

Just look at Ilag. He'd be considered completely useless if he didn't have MK's brokenness to make up for his complete lack of skill.

MK turns a **** player into an average player, an average player into a good player, a good player into a top level player, and a top level player into a beast.
 

luke_atyeo

Smash Hero
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hmm I kinda agree with you ted but answer me this, were you of the same opinion before you went to america?
 

Zero

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I'm pro ban. The issue isn't even necessarily with the top players. The issue of MKs ridiculousness can be seen all over the skill spectrum, though that's not to say that MK doesn't effect top level play aswell.

Just look at Ilag. He'd be considered completely useless if he didn't have MK's brokenness to make up for his complete lack of skill.

MK turns a **** player into an average player, an average player into a good player, a good player into a top level player, and a top level player into a beast.
I actually hear he plays a decent Kirby. I'd like to see that in a tournament though. And as for lack of skill, I don't often hear of many scrubs beating Bjay in a tournament match. I heard it was quite the close match, too.
 

tedeth

Smash Master
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Yes luke I was. I've been saying it for a long time. The America trip simply enforced my belief.

Zero, do you really think he could have beaten Bjay without MK? I personally don't. Thanks for helping me out with that buddy.
 

S.D

Smash Master
Joined
Feb 25, 2008
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Bjay beat my MK...

I'm against banning any character on principle.

We've been through this same argument too many times as a community, I cbf with it anymore.
 

I LAG

Smash Lord
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how could i beat bjay without mk? seriously thats like saying ted u cant beat bjay without wolf and wario
 

Zero

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I thought you were always anti ban.

@Ted: That's pretty much saying that he couldn't beat Bjay without his main. Which is fair enough, I know I couldn't beat Bjay without ZSS. Wario boards say MK is even, so it's either Bjay's getting worse or Scar's getting better.
 

Shaya

   「chase you」 
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oh I've been quite pro ban.

I know for fact that anyone who uses MK is going to have to work so much less compared to any other player to do well.
It's just how it is.

But anyone who can see Mew2King's expertise with a character, beyond any you've ever seen or played against before makes so many other 'high calibur' MKs seem **** in comparison... It's endearing to want to make you master your character just as well, and it's beyond it just being "Meta Knight".
 

I LAG

Smash Lord
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using mk is hard work.
you die on like 100% easily and
its not like u got a blaster or nades to camp, its much easier to sit back camping than to approach.
but picking mk up is very easy, just like all the kirby series characters
 

Browny

Smash Hater
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MK is so hard. think of all the effort you have to put into carefully choosing stage bans/strikes/CPs and character counterpicks when your opponent uses them to put you at the disadvantage

oh wait
 

Nixernator

Smash Ace
Joined
Dec 30, 2008
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812
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Melbourne, Australia
MK is so hard. think of all the effort you have to put into carefully choosing stage bans/strikes/CPs and character counterpicks when your opponent uses them to put you at the disadvantage

oh wait
^This Lol.

Also I'm pro ban for the American scene but not Australian scene, we are neither inundated or have MK's of good enough skills to make it worthwhile.
 

Ant1

Smash Ace
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Mar 15, 2009
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kda3kXQ9238
LOL at how many f-tilts i do. That was shameful of me to spam it that much.
Anyway, i think when u play bad (as in, inexperienced) ppl u play bad too, and part of me wanted to show off (in one match i was mortar sliding all over the palce for no reason)

If anyone's bored then can try and count how many f-tilts i do, and u -tilts if u want.
I'm snake and Desert Eagle is fox. When $100 is on the line it's no fuss, all safe moves hence the spam of tilts.
 

tibs7

Smash Champion
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ant that match was a joke...
so its true what they say about you ilag, no offence but, you're an idiot...."using mk is hard work" probs the stupidest post ive seen in this forum....and mk is that good that he doesnt need a projectile so stop complaining.
check this out for a sec.
earl a good melbourne* player that knows his shiz. first off used link everyone was like woah sick link but didnt really get anywhere. next time he uses snake aswell as link and ofcourse he did better. and for about 2-3months (if that) hes using mk and has now won a tournament.
i rest my case.

ps: earl im not paying you out just showing what mk can do.

*melbourne was in bold cause we're awesome.
 

Ant1

Smash Ace
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saying mk is hard work, is like saying playing bone clinkz in dota is hard work :D
and tibs of course its a joke, i didn't have to try at all.
The guy i was playing had arthritis and said he could only play ike coz it didn't require much movement of his hand :O
 

tibs7

Smash Champion
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did you tell him to use mk? he only needs one button.
 

Browny

Smash Hater
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Shaya loves spacing

almost as much as he loves Lucarios fsmash and aura sphere when used as a spacing tools. suddenly its a pro tactic! :p
 

tibs7

Smash Champion
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Then why does my Metaknight suck? I want answers!!
sometimes you hit the red button to many times and you have lag in the airinstead of cancelling it......and whenever the opponent is 100%+ you spam c-stick down lol.
 

tibs7

Smash Champion
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yeah dont get me wrong it normally works. i mean the great cao has beaten me before. but getting predictable gets owned by banana to anything.
 

luke_atyeo

Smash Hero
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cao its because your too un-gay to use mk, just stick with your peach that 3 stocks shaya twice in a row and you'll be fine ;)
 

Shaya

   「chase you」 
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ShayaJP
lololollolololololololololololololololololololol ...

lololollololololololololololololololololol

wait...
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.

too obvious luke, too obvious.

and for all those watching at home, CAO beat me like once, and it was close, a nd I b eat him every other time ;).
 

Dekar289

Smash Hero
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Feb 20, 2007
Messages
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i don't remember seeing you beat anyone in brawl, shaya
you use ganon yeh?
 
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