Ganonic Grimoire (Social) - Commiseration and Hierarchy

[Sovereign]

No probs, Verm.
I never really played KI Gold, though.
Can't you cover Cinder's theme instead? ;p

Sovereign is too daumn good at making sigs!
Thanks a bunch, man.

You should've gotten into KI Gold. It's so legit.

<3 Thanks.

 

[Zeallyx]

I gave him as good as 40 only because his manliness.

But, Falcon lacks the will to kill aka Killer Instinct.

40 is actually really good Vs a Killer Instinct Character.

Also, don't forget Cinder is considered Top Tier in KI, and Falcon's Low Tier-status just can't match that.

I dissagree.

It's falcon>all

You should've gotten into KI Gold. It's so legit.

<3 Thanks.

dudedudedude

you never on msn =/

 

[Sovereign]

dudedudedude

you never on msn =/

But it's you who's not on MSN right now.

 

[Z1GMA]

You should've gotten into KI Gold. It's so legit.

<3 Thanks.

I should download the N64 ROM, then.

Sovereign is too daumn good at making sigs!
Thanks a bunch, man.

 

[Terodactyl Yelnats]

Good God that sig is beast.

 

[Sovereign]

Flattery will get you everywhere, Z1gma. <3

 

[Exalted]

Speaking of sigs, I wish my comp with Photoshop didn't crash D:
In all due respect, I was quite talented in the arts of sig-making.

 

[Sovereign]

Speaking of sigs, I wish my comp with Photoshop didn't crash D:
In all due respect, I was quite talented in the arts of sig-making.

Why don't you just re-download it?

Also, what do you guys think of my new sig and quote?

 

[Z1GMA]

TKONTK, Blood Falcon would go 50:50 with Cinder, no doubt ;}

Also, what do you guys think of my new sig and quote?

Byakuya's so arrogant and cold.
He's awesome.

 

[Exalted]

Bah, I got it from some guy I knew, but he's long gone.

 

[Z1GMA]

Imma tattoo my tongue with the number 5.

 

[Dumbfire]

Bah, I got it from some guy I knew, but he's long gone.

What about p-p-p-piratebay.

 

[Noobicidal]

Also, what do you guys think of my new sig and quote?

I wouldn't personally pick Byakuya, Kalm Jr.

 

[the king of murder]

Wow, Sove. I know you got enough praise already but I just have to say it. Awesome Zig Sig you made there.

Also what move do you guys use to punish get up attacks, as Ganon?

 

[bigbucks]

AND I KEEP PLANNING TO GO TO OFFLINE EVENTS!!!!! Planning to go to a smashfest nov 6?

 

[Zeallyx]

But it's you who's not on MSN right now.

Sorry<3

TKONTK, Blood Falcon would go 50:50 with Cinder, no doubt ;}

I agree. But that means he's the one with the best matchup, not ganon =P

I agree, but that's weird coming from you.

Byakuya's so arrogant and cold.
He's awesome.

True. And he recently got some panel time again.

 

[Dumbfire]

Also what move do you guys use to punish get up attacks, as Ganon?

If you predict a get-up attack from a flame choke you can walk away then Flamechoke or Stutter Step Fsmash, or SH a Dair or Full hop then fall with something.
If you want to punish a get-up attack hitting on shield, it depends completely on what characters get-up attack. Some are way to good shield pokes and are really fast and strong. Some are really slow and can get punished with a jab or ftilt.
If you have those really fast ones you could try to jump cancele't up b Oos.

 

[Z1GMA]

Also what move do you guys use to punish get up attacks, as Ganon?

When the GUA hits your shield you can:

Most reliable and easy: Jab
More damage + Juggle Set-up: Dtilt
Intention to kill: Ftilt
Nasty: Stomp OoS
If you're close enough: Usmash OoS ... Or, Shield Grab.
In favor of Chain Choking: Gerudo

If you PS the GUA, you can do pretty much anything - Even Fsmash 'em.

The two Attacks I use the most are: Dtilt(mostly at low %'s) and Gerudo.

 

[Sovereign]

I wouldn't personally pick Byakuya, Kalm Jr.

Kalm's legacy must move forward. He personified Byakuya's personality, I'm not so harsh, but I can easily do the same. Consider me the lighter side of Byakuya that actually has fun.

Wow, Sove. I know you got enough praise already but I just have to say it. Awesome Zig Sig you made there.

Also what move do you guys use to punish get up attacks, as Ganon?

Thanks. Just walk away, if you predict a get-up attack, and punish with an IDA or a Gerudo. If you want to be fancy, jump over them and WizKick.

 

[Z1GMA]

I agree. But that means he's the one with the best matchup, not ganon =P

No, Ganon's MU Vs Combo was 65:35 in Ganon's favor.

Blood Falcon is bad@ss, though.
I believe he has a lot of "Killer instinct" within.

I wonder what Blood Falcon'd be like in a SSB-game...
At least Top Tier.

His neutral B:
'BLOODY PAUNCCHH!!!' *Blood squirts, instead of fire*
Twice as fast as FP, but with 30% less Knockback.

 

[Exalted]

Lol Doom, Pirate Bay.

 

[the king of murder]

Thanks guys. Lately, I have tried to stomp the get up attack of my opponent but it seems like I have to work on my timing. I'll try out all these options, you recommended.

 

[Exalted]

Stomping most GUAs during they're active seems impossible, but it works real' good on Lucas.

/random input :3

 

[Sovereign]

No, Ganon's MU Vs Combo was 65:35 in Ganon's favor.

Blood Falcon is bad@ss, though.
I believe he has a lot of "Killer instinct" within.

I think Cinder is Captain Falcon's fire powers gone haywire. That MU should be even to begin with, and then Blood Falcon would take over, making the MU slightly in his favor.

 

[Noobicidal]

Consider me the lighter side of Byakuya that actually has fun.

Consider me the Orihime that isn't useless and actually uses her powers to ****ING NEGATE LOSING AN ARM.

Soul Society is smart enough to create organs, but not limbs. Poor Yamamoto.

 

[Exalted]

Yabba-dabba-doo.

 

[Z1GMA]

I think Cinder is Captain Falcon's fire powers gone haywire. That MU should be even to begin with

We're talkin' KI-characters here.
Don't forget that

 

[Zeallyx]

No, Ganon's MU Vs Combo was 65:35 in Ganon's favor.

TKONTK, Blood Falcon would go 50:50 with Cinder, no doubt ;}

???

Blood falcon>ganon according to ya.

 

[Exalted]

TKONTK, I'm intrigued. Please do explain how you came to that conclusion.

 

[Z1GMA]

I'm confused . .

 

[Sovereign]

TKONTK is just a hardcore Falcon main, but love to be among the real men of smashboards - The Ganon mains.

 

[Clai]

Ganon's in his own tier now!?!?!?!? The bbr thought ganon was so bad that they literally separated him from every other character in the game, including zelda, falcon, and !@$#!@$#!@ !@$#@! $@!@ !$@# !#@$ jigglypuff!?!?!? how? How did you let this happen? How did you just stand there and let the bbr do this to you? You should have revolted and had the bbr's heads on a pike! I am both ashamed and disgusted at how ganon is being treated! He is the lord of evil and nobody, especially anyone of his caliber, should be subjected so such disgrace! Ever! rage! anger! smash!

 

[Sovereign]

The BBR have recognized that Ganon's evil is too much for the likes of the rest of the characters in Brawl, so much in fact that he does indeed deserve his own tier. Consider it like this:

Ganon is to Brawl as Hades is to the Greek Gods of Olympus. Almighty and powerful, we now have our own domain to dwell in.

 

[A2ZOMG]

Ganon's in his own tier now!?!?!?!? The bbr thought ganon was so bad that they literally separated him from every other character in the game, including zelda, falcon, and !@$#!@$#!@ !@$#@! $@!@ !$@# !#@$ jigglypuff!?!?!? how? How did you let this happen? How did you just stand there and let the bbr do this to you? You should have revolted and had the bbr's heads on a pike! I am both ashamed and disgusted at how ganon is being treated! He is the lord of evil and nobody, especially anyone of his caliber, should be subjected so such disgrace! Ever! rage! anger! smash!

Falcon and Jiggs especially are leagues better than Ganon.

Know who actually should be close to Ganon's tier ranking? Bowser. People just don't know how awful and exploitable this character is.

 

[Ganonsburg]

Ganon's in his own tier now!?!?!?!? The bbr thought ganon was so bad that they literally separated him from every other character in the game, including zelda, falcon, and !@$#!@$#!@ !@$#@! $@!@ !$@# !#@$ jigglypuff!?!?!? how? How did you let this happen? How did you just stand there and let the bbr do this to you? You should have revolted and had the bbr's heads on a pike! I am both ashamed and disgusted at how ganon is being treated! He is the lord of evil and nobody, especially anyone of his caliber, should be subjected so such disgrace! Ever! rage! anger! smash!

The last uprising against the BBR didn't turn out so well (see: Ganoncide debate). Or, you could say that like Ganon, we're just allowing them to have their glory for now (for our sheer entertainment) before we take our rightful throne.

 

[Noobicidal]

Ganon sucks, and Jigglypuff is better.

 

[Zeallyx]

TKONTK, I'm intrigued. Please do explain how you came to that conclusion.

I'm confused . .

Taken from Z1GMA's posts:

Ganon has a 35-65 MU vs. a killer instinct character.

While Blood falcon has a 50-50 MU vs. a killer instinct character.

50-50>35-65, so blood falcon wins from ganon, as he has a better MU ratio.

TKONTK is just a hardcore Falcon main, but love to be among the real men of smashboards - The Ganon mains.

Pretty much this^

Prolly minus the hardcore, though

 

[the king of murder]

Taken from Z1GMA's posts:

Ganon has a 35-65 MU vs. a killer instinct character.

You do realize that Z1g said it's a 65:35 MU in Ganon's favor, right?

No, Ganon's MU Vs Combo was 65:35 in Ganon's favor.

 

[Supreme Dirt]

Holy ****

clai posted

 

[Zeallyx]

Oh I see.

My bad, then.