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Ganondorf Board's Question & Answer Thread.
- Thread starter Ray_Kalm
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It was probably based on four-player FFA, too. Which Ganon is also great in. (Although even then I'd probably say Ike does the ol' "I think I'll surprise everyone with an immensely powerful attack" thing better)
TP
Smash Master
Sakurai also based balance on making the newcomers better than the old character. It's been proven.
I just hate how Snake weights more than Ganondorf.
Ganon's one head taller plus almost twice as big muscles; on top of that he wear a fat armor.
Snake on the other hand, just have his Nikita/rocketlauncher; yet he's heavier than Ganon.
PLUS, he's top tier... come on, Sakurai ;\
Ray_Kalm
Smash Master
ShinGaruda
Smash Journeyman
SWF won't let me express my great amount of likeness for this vid, so you'll have to use your imagination.
**** that was cool!
And it made Ganondorf justice, cause that's how he's like in the Zelda games.
Teronist09
Smash Journeyman
Is it possible to FoG out of a FoG? And if so how? I can't figure it out.
TP
Smash Master
Just start an air dodge slightly after the peak of the previous FoG. It is hard to describe the correct timing, just keep practicing and you'll do it.
Also, you can buffer an aerial or two right after FoG, and then buffer a airdoge out of it/them, then buffer a new FoG out of the Airdodge.
Just find the formula.
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Dammn you, DAD. I told you a few months ago that I'd beat you to it.
It was close. <3 jk
KRiMz0N
Smash Journeyman
ganoncide mind game
1. wizard foot off the edge
2. flame choke back to the edge
doesnt matter if they edgeguard you can still make it back with the flame choke
i do it a lot by accident >_>
1. wizard foot off the edge
2. flame choke back to the edge
doesnt matter if they edgeguard you can still make it back with the flame choke
i do it a lot by accident >_>
lordterken
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wolf killing
How do you kill a wolf and get pass his blaster? How do you not get killed by wolf?
How do you kill a wolf and get pass his blaster? How do you not get killed by wolf?
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Smash Hero
How to kill a Wolf: Get him offstage and use dair or reverse uair
Get past his blaster: Jump and airdodge, walk and powershield
How to not get killed by Wolf: Don't get hit |:
Squirrely
Smash Journeyman
Have an itchy shield finger when fighting wolf. His f-smash murderously punished if shielded along with most of his other moves save b-air.
thexsunrosered
Smash Lord
i feel like this deserves its own thread, but why is it that NO ONE is ever in the chat? i think there should at least be a scheduled meeting once a week in the chat so that all of us can toss around ideas fluidly and arrange matches quickly. it just bothers me that nobody is ever present when i go there so eager to face the evil =/
Could someone please create a "Ganon's weekly move discussion thread" with nice pics N stuff ?
Someone qualified that doesn't already run too many threads.
I could do it, but my english isn't that great ;\
I was thinking TP, maybe? What do you say?
Someone qualified that doesn't already run too many threads.
I could do it, but my english isn't that great ;\
I was thinking TP, maybe? What do you say?
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Smash Hero
Why would we want that, though? We already know everything there is about all of his moves, there's not a whole lot to discuss.
Rather, we should be looking into counterpick stages that we know little about. Brinstar, Corneria, Green Greens and the likes.
Rather, we should be looking into counterpick stages that we know little about. Brinstar, Corneria, Green Greens and the likes.
TP
Smash Master
Corneria's banned lol.
Hmmm, stage discussion seems more useful. FD is right, we know the moves. I'll start a stage discussion thread if one more person posts saying they support it. Sorry Z1GMA. D:
Squirrely
Smash Journeyman
I know the stages as much as I know the moves, what's to discuss >.>
It all seems like common sense. Stay away from walk-offs with chain grabbing homos etc
It all seems like common sense. Stay away from walk-offs with chain grabbing homos etc
hyperstation
Smash Lord
I think there's more to this than we once thought. I played Kalm a few days ago and picked up a few new tricks on BATTLEFIELD of all places. Who would have thought? Not to mention the fact that pk-ow recently brought into question whether or not Lylat is actually a bad stage for Ganon. I think a discussion of tournament stages would be a worthwhile one. Do it up, TP.
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Smash Hero
I don't know the whole American ruleset, sooo... We only have like 5/6 counterpick stages. But still, it'd be a worthwile discussion, I think.
TP
Smash Master
The SBR official ruleset has 22 legal stages. I happen to know them by heart.
OK. I'll do it up soon.
I played a lot of Ganon in friendlies and low tier teams yesterday at HOBO 16. Wreck, of course.
:034:
Smash Hero
Yeah, I saw you use him once when I was on the livestream (not long).
Hopefully it's when I was doing well, lol.
:034:
Smash Hero
It was pretty okay.. Although you really need to thunderstorm all the time and not randomly whiff it xD
I did say I'm pretty lazy, I think. Wario's stuff autocancels so effortlessly, I don't want to have to do anything like quickly press buttons!
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Smash Hero
You roll your finger from Y to A, so you could even see it as one button. Coincidentally, when I play as Wario I always use the same method as with thunderstorming...
You don't have to do it as quickly, haha. Believe me, it's noticeable when you go from playing a lot of Wario to doing your Ganon once in a while XD
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Smash Hero
hmm, I should try playing Wario a bit more, he really is a lot of fun (even though matches take twice as long).
Yeah, but you win them! (DAYUM)
It's alright though, a lot of the stuff I lose in not thunderstorming right all the time I make up for via gimps and general wreckage.
It's alright though, a lot of the stuff I lose in not thunderstorming right all the time I make up for via gimps and general wreckage.
:034:
Smash Hero
Hehe, that's true. Both of those, actually.
I actually use the slide from Y to A method for ALOT for all the characters i use. the one that comes to mind is Falco, its SOOO easy to spike people if you jump below them and then "thunderstorm" its like a jump spike. thats actually the only way i spike with falco now, I also use the Y to A method to RAR.
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Smash Hero
I use it a lot, too... But mostly for Wolf's and Bowser's fair, and Wario's sh dair to dj dair (****).
Ray_Kalm
Smash Master
Do you guys know what frame Ganon pulls up his legs for DAir? Is it right away? Or does it contain some lag?
3xSwords
Smash Lord
On characters who you can sideB>dtilt could you on a platform do sideB>drop thru platform> uair?
TP
Smash Master
I discovered this tactic a couple months ago. It works on every character except Ganon himself, oddly. It is not very useful, but interesting. You are usually better off just dropping down and then reacting to what they do, since you have such a large positional advantage. Good job thinking outside the box and noticing this.
Kalm, I can't answer your question, though it is interesting.
B!squick
Smash Master
I found the terrible frame data you guys have for Ganon ( it has half frames D: ) and it shows the hitbox coming out at frame 23ish while this thread:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=202204&highlight=frame
has it marked at frame 16. :/ Anyway, he would have to pull up his legs at some point before than so I'm gonna guess... frame 9ish?
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=202204&highlight=frame
has it marked at frame 16. :/ Anyway, he would have to pull up his legs at some point before than so I'm gonna guess... frame 9ish?
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From a blind guess, I would assume that Ganondorf's D-air, his legs draw back completely at frame 5ish.
Which means from a SH, his legs would retract at frame 12ish (since his jump is frame 7). Again, this is just a pure guess from comparative observation with other attacks which I do know the frame data for.
Which means from a SH, his legs would retract at frame 12ish (since his jump is frame 7). Again, this is just a pure guess from comparative observation with other attacks which I do know the frame data for.