Oh... My lazy eyes thoght it was a TierList like the one we once had.
My bad...
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Ganondorf Board's Question & Answer Thread.
- Thread starter Ray_Kalm
- Start date
My bad...
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Smash Hero
Might be, I don't remember everything, plus I didn't count stuff from 08 (hence why I'm not in there with my miserable 64th).Sweet, I'm the second best Ganon main in the world thanks to a technicality.
I know DLA said his best performance is 5th of 36, though I think the tournament was long ago.
But yeah, Power Rankings were done since back in the Melee days. It usually stopped after a while since there was just a lot of people complaining about it and starting flame wars and trash talking. It can be good for a rising community though, as a way to say "Hey look, you can still catch up with these guys".
Ray_Kalm
Smash Master
Some people just don't like to see happiness.
Well, you guys are welcome to start up another one... or you could link me to the old one and I'd reopen it and it can be revamped.
Ray_Kalm
Smash Master
You'll find it in the friend finder.
GanonCanon
Smash Rookie
Has anyone discovered an instant kill with ganon because i had constistently stomped the fairly good diddy player i had been matched up with the entire match and he started to DI down. He DI'ed down at 0% and my stomp was fresh and i had landed and i accidently usmashed and hit it on the toe and it was a kill. I tried it and i couldn't recreate it after about 50 attempts. Any feedback?
I can't even understand what you're describing.
Squirrely
Smash Journeyman
This is what I got out of it:
'????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? I landed fresh stomp on diddy then up smashed and it killed him off the top. Can someone tell me something about this?'
And my response is as follows:
This sounds completely bogus.
A fresh stomp can't put diddy at tipper toe range of an u-smash.
U-smash doesn't have any special properties at the very top that I know of.
You can DI down from a stomp? That doesn't sound right.
But hey, post a vid and maybe I'll reconsider.
But at this point, judging by what I could salvage from your post, that didn't happen like that, if at all. Sorry.
'????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? I landed fresh stomp on diddy then up smashed and it killed him off the top. Can someone tell me something about this?'
And my response is as follows:
This sounds completely bogus.
A fresh stomp can't put diddy at tipper toe range of an u-smash.
U-smash doesn't have any special properties at the very top that I know of.
You can DI down from a stomp? That doesn't sound right.
But hey, post a vid and maybe I'll reconsider.
But at this point, judging by what I could salvage from your post, that didn't happen like that, if at all. Sorry.
Fogo
Smash Shinigami
Hey ganon guys, what's your least favorite matchup?
B!squick
Smash Master
Anyone with an infinite.
Ant1
Smash Ace
Hey! I got a 1st and a 2nd. Where is teh luv, teh luv!1!
Nah it's ok, i don't go on these boards enough to make myself well known to everyone.
And i know ur torunaments may be a bit harder to win at, but statwise i could be the 2nd best ganon, kosk is better.
stRIP
Smash Ace
You said you even cant connect SideB to dtilt to GaW in the Video thread and you think you are good?
Made my day.
Could you try to explain it a little better? Procents and stuff?
Usmash do have a sweetspot area at the top, which deals 22% damage + sick knockback.
I killed my friends Yoshi a 47% with a Usmash sweetspot the other day when he came down with his down+b above me. (base platform)... I was like "Really?"
Ant1
Smash Ace
U can connect it.... vs someone who doesn't know how to move.. It really quite easy to evade. And i don't think im good, i know im good, and i've got the results to prove it unlike u.
Perhaps the australian version of brawl is a bit different to the u.s? Just a though.
Just as i thought. I just tested it with my brother, and sadly it doesn't work on full speed. On the slower speed's it works, but never on full speed.
I am thinking of making a video to show u guys it also.
Who tested this so called combo? Did they do it on slower speeds? All that was required to evade the d-tilt was hitting left or right fast. We stopped controller to see if he could connect the d-tilt but nope, doesn't work at all. My bro then tried to buffer it without button mashing, but that doesn't work either.
So before u go accusing me of sucking coz i don't think something works, actually try it urself. Who knows the American version may be different.
Browny
Smash Hater
before you guys bite my brothers head off... ive done my own testing and cant find it as a true combo.
I know all about buffering and stuff, Ive written multiples threads about proving chaingrabs and IASA frames using frame data, video footage etc so dont write me off just yet.
However Ive seen and observed nothing that leads me to believe that is a true combo. The only thing that would convince me at the moment is solid frame data poof that G&W can not gain invincibility frames until ganon's hitbox from the dtilt comes out... until then its simply your word against ours.
Maybe the US brawl is slightly different, i dont know. But the fact remains there is no method I am currently aware of and able to perform that would make side b -> dtilt a true combo. btw any supposed 'lack of tech skill' is not a valid argument here
I know all about buffering and stuff, Ive written multiples threads about proving chaingrabs and IASA frames using frame data, video footage etc so dont write me off just yet.
However Ive seen and observed nothing that leads me to believe that is a true combo. The only thing that would convince me at the moment is solid frame data poof that G&W can not gain invincibility frames until ganon's hitbox from the dtilt comes out... until then its simply your word against ours.
Maybe the US brawl is slightly different, i dont know. But the fact remains there is no method I am currently aware of and able to perform that would make side b -> dtilt a true combo. btw any supposed 'lack of tech skill' is not a valid argument here
stRIP
Smash Ace
My english sux so i cant explain why
yourbrotherisdoingitwrong
thats all
Other Ganon Mains know what i mean :<
Browny
Smash Hater
I was the one doing the testing, not him
However I can apply to same argument to your case. your opponents were doing it wrong
See? the only way this is gonna be solved is legit frame data which no one can argue... I dont see any of that here
However I can apply to same argument to your case. your opponents were doing it wrong
See? the only way this is gonna be solved is legit frame data which no one can argue... I dont see any of that here
stRIP
Smash Ace
http://www.pown.it/3209
Srsly some1 describe him how it works :< i bet he is pressing the controllstick all the way down
Ray_Kalm
Smash Master
Usmash hit's harder, and does a extra 3% if the Ganon's boot makes contact with the oppnent.
Ant, and Djbrown, it'd be better if you guys actually did some research before claiming to know something. Flame choke to DTilt isn't a true combo on the whole cast, and requires perfect buffering, but it is a true combo.
Ant, you called yourself the "2nd" best Ganon, which I doubt and know isn't true, you should have at least known the basics things.
Ant1
Smash Ace
I said statistically speaking i am, i've never seen any of ur ganon vids or the others besides kosk. I don't doubt for a second that they would be better ganon players than me, i don't play that much or look into the game as u Americans/Canadians do.
I only know stuff about brawl that which i get told by my brother. Of course he doesn't care much for ganon, so i wouldn't know all these combo's on certain cast members.
Just against G&W, flame choke to d-tilt doesnt work. Which a while ago i posted on a vid of A2ZOMG saying it was avoidable, but got told it wasn't. I guess i should've specififed alot more that i was referring to G&W. As i always knew those vids of A2ZOMG v kosk were dumb, as he was getting hit by that flame choke combo every time.
Ray_Kalm
Smash Master
What you got told was right, Flame choke to DTilt is unavoidable against Mr.G&W along with a few other characters.
TP
Smash Master
Set C-stick to attack. Take skill out of the equation when proving a choke followup.
professor mgw
Smash Champion
how do you cancel your down+B in the air?
stRIP
Smash Ace
obviously yes
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Smash Hero
It does. The top part (basically the actual foot) is a sweetspot that kills way earlier. It also has a bigger 'impact', if you get me.
Does Captain Falcon shoot lightning out of his eyes and EVIL PURPLE fire out of his hands/feet?
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Smash Hero
Woah, sorry bro, I forgot about you. Gotta keep up the love for my PAL homies. (: But basically, for a ranking like that, you'd be higher than Koskinator since you got higher placings, unless you start to calculate stuff like Ankoku's list does...
Distance/spacing
I was not aware that the U-smash had a sweetspot, does anyone know the exactly ko% difference between the sweetspot and the normal U-smash, is it a drastic difference?
Fogo
Smash Shinigami
Who all has an infinite on ganon?
Ray_Kalm
Smash Master
It should kill around 20% faster. From what I know, the tipper is off a few percents than Mr.G&W's USmash in power.
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Smash Hero
It's about 20%, it's pretty drastic. Check it out next time, try it on a small character first, then put that small character on a platform - you'll notice a different effect ('bigger impact' say to say)
Squirrely
Smash Journeyman
I was unaware of the sweetspot on u-smash. My bad.
PK-ow!
Smash Lord
Dude,
dude,
pick your battles.
Dude.
Ganondorf is not more manly than Captain Falcon. No, no, at ease, gentlemen. Such is a chance to grow in our understanding of the Orthodoxy.
Captain Falcon is more manly than Ganondorf. To say otherwise is just denial of scientific fact.
Much like the secrets of Samus' Chozo armor, scientists of any discipline are not entirely sure how the Falcon's manliness comes into being, but there is data to say a lot about it - and leaving many of the deep questions of this phenomenon to our greatest philosophers, we can all be certain, that no one surpasses the Falcon in mannitude.
But at the same time, the Ganon's beast levels, among other, vastly more important metrics, do dwarf Falcon's own. In addition, just for exploratory purposes, the Ganon even has properties of which Falcon has no measure; exemplis gratis, do you know how many material symbols of primordial Creator Force that Captain Falcon has in his possession? I'll bet you it's not one.
But, the work of figuring out exactly what the beast levels are or what sort of measures it is we want to talk about, can be left to the physicists. For now, my job as a theologian I think can be at rest, and say these would be why our
Nonetheless. We shall not fall from the right knowledge of our king, being caught in inconsequential squabbles over untruths on His name.
A short hymn now, if you will join me: wwwooooaaarrruuohhh.... urrrruuuaaaaaaggghhh. Amen.
Thank you for your question, Spelt.
fromundaman
Henshin a go-go Baby!
So, I finally got internet, and would like to finally play some more Wifi games against some of you Ganons, but I have run into one great obstacle:
Where can I ask for matches (which I am indirectly doing here since I could find neither a general chat nor a wifi thread.)?
Where can I ask for matches (which I am indirectly doing here since I could find neither a general chat nor a wifi thread.)?
I almost infracted you PK-ow... stop spreading that slander and filth!
Ganon is manly enough to have spawned Falcon... if he wills it to be so.
Ganon is manly enough to have spawned Falcon... if he wills it to be so.
Fogo
Smash Shinigami
Why won't anyone answer me? 
stRIP
Smash Ace
And Ganon has a beard.