Ganondorf Board's Question & Answer Thread.

[stRIP]

Really? Down smash can hit people hanging off the ledge?
That's news to me, I've tried this many times and never hit anyone.

Do you remember what stage it was? And against who?

I know TL's hugs the ground, Ganon's floats well in the air...

nono, not people hanging off the ledge

just catch them offstage, if they dont di or crapdi, the firsthit of the dsmash can stagespike them

 

[Squirrely]

I see. When you said he recovered to the edge, I took that to mean that he grabbed or otherwise landed on the edge.

I'm still surprised down smash would even stage spike, it's pretty weak on the first hit...

 

[Z1GMA]

Weak DA -> Turnaround-Usmash tipper, at high %'s.
Weak DA -> Gerudo at low %'s

I know it sounds silly, but it'd be awesome if Weak DA had garanteed follow ups. Maybe it has, on some chars.
Kalm's weak DA -> Grab works good on MK at low %'s.

I'll try out weak DA -> TS on low %'s, with a friend.

 

[stRIP]

Weak DA -> Turnaround-Usmash tipper, at high %'s.
Weak DA -> Gerudo at low %'s

I know it sounds silly, but it'd be awesome if Weak DA had garanteed follow ups. Maybe it has, on some chars.
Kalm's weak DA -> Grab works good on MK at low %'s.

I'll try out weak DA -> TS on low %'s, with a friend.

weak hit DA to upsmash

i got a dmg only combo with this, i can send you the combo at MSN and you can upload it. just if you want

 

[hyperstation]

I love Usmash kills these days. I like the sound of a weak hit DA -> turn around USmash. Since it's usually pretty fresh (for me), I bet we could get kills at a pretty low percentage.

 

[PK-ow!]

I see. When you said he recovered to the edge, I took that to mean that he grabbed or otherwise landed on the edge.

I'm still surprised down smash would even stage spike, it's pretty weak on the first hit...

Stage spikes have fictional physics.

It's the same deal with PK Thunder. If you hit someone, and they collide with a stage underside, the speed at which they rebound is not bound by a law of proportion to the speed of their collision.

I don't know what rule would describe the speed. It's just wholly non-Newtonian, is all I know.

@Z1GMA: I saw a vid where a Japanese Ganon was using weak hit DA to position a ... I think Toon Link player behind him. It was some lightweight, and it was middling-high percents. It seemed better than knocking the opponent up.

It was definitely a change in style from "OMFG SAVE YOUR DASH ATTACK FOR THE LOVE OF Yahweh GANON," but given that he was using it very much opportunistically for damage-racking and safety, it was a passable tactic.

 

[Z1GMA]

O_o Does anybody know what this is? (The mist on the ground)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkFtims-ZCI&feature=channel_page

Graphical glitch? Demon?

 

[:034:]

Those are definitely Sheik's needles disappearing. My friend mains Sheik, so I'm pretty dang sure.

 

[Z1GMA]

Those are definitely Sheik's needles disappearing. My friend mains Sheik, so I'm pretty dang sure.

OMG!
*deleted* :embarrass

 

[:034:]

"You have much left to learn!"

 

[TP]

Guys, the mods are going through all the boards right now! It's coming like a tidal wave! If any of the mods actually look at the content of our usual posts, we're in big trouble.... Hide the spam!

 

[:034:]

Why the **** does everybody have green names all of a sudden? o__O

EDIT: Oh, right, April Fools... I liked last year's better, switching around the words was priceless. And I guess I'm the only yellow left... ROW ROW FIGHT DA POWA

 

[Ant1]

It's apparently a HILARIOUS April fools joke, i'm literally in stiches after seeing it.
Kinda like half the crap that's appeared on smashboards due to april fools

 

[Squirrely]

Looks like Dutchman is the odd man out when it comes to green names.

 

[:034:]

It's apparently a HILARIOUS April fools joke, i'm literally in stiches after seeing it.
Kinda like half the crap that's appeared on smashboards due to april fools

You forgot /sarcasm

 

[Z1GMA]

Their joke is to make Flying Dutchman think HIS name got changed to yellow.

 

[:034:]

Rather, I am the only survivor of a zombie invasion.


Just think about that for a moment.

 

[Smexicario]

How far away does Ganon have to be from the enemy to throw the "darkness" at them when he does UpB?

 

[:034:]

How far away does Ganon have to be from the enemy to throw the "darkness" at them when he does UpB?

He does an uppercut at the top of the up+b, with about the following hitbox (estimated):

 

[UzakiuzuG]

Any of the Ganondorf mains up for some matches? Till 4 eastern time. Sorry if this is breaking th rules. Pm would be the best option.

 

[IxxI]

Today I got hit with a gannon up tilt. My un born children are now dead. FML.

 

[stRIP]

Today I got hit with a gannon up tilt. My un born children are now dead. FML.

hes called gaNon ffs.

UpTilt for godtier move

 

[fromundaman]

Stage spikes have fictional physics.

It's the same deal with PK Thunder. If you hit someone, and they collide with a stage underside, the speed at which they rebound is not bound by a law of proportion to the speed of their collision.

I don't know what rule would describe the speed. It's just wholly non-Newtonian, is all I know.

Very true... I've seen the wind from D3's inhale create an abnormally strong stage-spike as well.

 

[B!squick]

That should be on a t-shirt.

IT'S WHOLLY NON-NEWTONIAN!

 

[TP]

Hey guys, my tournament is tomorrow morning. Legan said he thinks about 30 people will show up. I'll be going all Ganon unless my opponents pull out Sheik, ICs, Olimar, or Legan's Link. He is the one guy I have met in real life who I was clearly inferior to. For reference, he brought Kosk to last stock of Game 3 in an online tournament.

I'll tell you guys how it goes.

 

[PK-ow!]

Hey guys, my tournament is tomorrow morning. Legan said he thinks about 30 people will show up. I'll be going all Ganon unless my opponents pull out Sheik, ICs, Olimar, or Legan's Link. He is the one guy I have met in real life who I was clearly inferior to. For reference, he brought Kosk to last stock of Game 3 in an online tournament.

Man, Legan's Link is a pretty **** character. Some people have described a compulsion to counterpick into that **** on the spot, but what I hear is the only dude who can play Legan's Link for half a **** is Legan. Stay strong and remember the paunch unholy fire.




@JayDeth: To what image would that text be a caption?

 

[B!squick]

A whacked out looking Newton crushing an apple in his fist, of course.

 

[Z1GMA]

Man, Legan's Link is a pretty **** character. Some people have described a compulsion to counterpick into that **** on the spot, but what I hear is the only dude who can play Legan's Link for half a **** is Legan. Stay strong and remember the paunch unholy fire.

lol, yet another April fools joke?
There is no such character as "Legan's Link"

Spoiler

10PssstHowDoIUnlockHim?plz10

 

[Squirrely]

Legan plays a pretty tight Link. Unfortunately I have trouble watching him since the videos of him aren't very high quality.

I recommend watching Izaw if you want to see a good Link in action as well, though all of his videos are old; I'm not even sure if he plays anymore...

Edit: I'm blind, he has several recent videos up, namely him vs. Rebaz, a beast Falcon.

 

[:034:]

Good luck at your tourney Twilight!

 

[Z1GMA]

Guys.. On Bowser..

Have you tried AC Dair (at around 10% ) -> small footstool -> FF Tipman+Forced rising -> AC Dair -> Rising Uair?

... It ****in' destroys him! 10% -> 72%

The footstool makes this much harder to escape than Blad's "bouncing combo", which is easy to escape.

 

[Conspiricy]

Umm...guys.

The wario boards have found a way of cancelling all recoveries with an uncharged fart. Be careful.

I don't think It's been 100% confirmed yet, but...watch out all the same...

-SIEG (fellow dark lord)

 

[B!squick]

Bah. 10-72% on Bowser is nothing. Has this been tested while taking Bowser's epic UpB into consideration with it's frame 1 invincibility?

 

[Z1GMA]

Bah. 10-72% on Bowser is nothing. Has this been tested while taking Bowser's epic UpB into consideration with it's frame 1 invincibility?

This is pretty **** hard to perform, which makes the combo not so effective; sadly.

But 10-72%... "nothing" ?
You know, IC's CG to around 95% (depending on character) and then Usmash kill.

But then again, this isn't nearly as effective as their CG's.

 

[AgentJGV]

Guys.. On Bowser..

Have you tried AC Dair (at around 10% ) -> small footstool -> FF Tipman+Forced rising -> AC Dair -> Rising Uair?

... It ****in' destroys him! 10% -> 72%

The footstool makes this much harder to escape than Blad's "bouncing combo", which is easy to escape.

Can you do something like this on other characters?

*Wow Dair with footstool! I'm blind.*

 

[Z1GMA]

Can you do something like this on other characters?

*Wow Dair with footstool! I'm blind.*

I'm not sure..
I've had the best results with characters that Stomp->Usmash works good at.

The Tipman "forced rising" seems to work best on Bowser, DK etc..., while Stomp -> footstool Stomp/Wizkick
works good on most characters.

/// Don't have too high thoughts about this. It'sn't very effective............ Yet

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I got a question...
Does Sourspot Dair have as good prioroity as sweetspot Dair?

 

[AgentJGV]

??? forgive my lack of knowledge but what is sourspot Dair?

 

[Teronist09]

Are any of you Ganon fellows flying around the stage yet?

 

[Face124]

??? forgive my lack of knowledge but what is sourspot Dair?

I believe it's the hitbox of Ganondorf's D-air around his chest and shoulders area, which only does 17% and has less power than the SS. It usualy only connects when SH D-air'ing an enemy through a platform. That's just me though.

 

[AgentJGV]

oh...ok then