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Ganon dittos are stupid

SuSa

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Hang onto ledge.
Let other Ganon up-B you.
Tech jump stage.
Spike other Ganon (guaranteed)
Laugh at how stupid Ganon dittos can be.
Go cry to yourself once you truly realize what this means.
Continue maining Ganon.
Someone else chooses Ganon against you.
Flashback.
Mental breakdown.
???
Depression for rest of life

___________
The story told when you realize. Your own character has a guaranteed spike on himself......... and so may others, that aren't able to spike you after your up-B normally.
 

Noobicidal

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That's worse than grab-release Dtaunting during Wario dittos.

This is horrible.
 

SuSa

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I think I may have ONE replay on my wii where I do it, but I think they are all on Bams.

I'm pretty sure others have the guaranteed spike.

I want to test if Snake does. It'd make up for Snake not being able to hit you out of up-B. :3
 

PhantomX

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Your plan is ruined by the fact that Ganon's Up B is so bad, that it will almost never have enough knockback to send us into the stage :)
 

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I managed to do this in BBrawl, despite the knockback being changed to send the victim at a more downward angle. I teched off the very bottom part of the side of FD. It was beautiful.

If I see someone doing this to me, I'll just recover low and uppercut them for it.

:034:
 

SuSa

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@Swoops
I revelead it earlier, people thought I meant out of up-B's lack of hitstun.

@Phantom
Once I'm 20-40% (one attack in a Ganon ditto. lawl) it has enough knockback for me to tech it at point blank range. :D Which is where it basically needs to be done.

@TP
If you try to space it so you uppercut me, I ledgedrop uair and gimp you. gg

@PK
Ganon's is actually worse.
 

A2ZOMG

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Ganon dittos are infinitely less stupid than other character dittos.

There is really no single attack that over-centralizes the matchup since nothing Ganondorf has is particularly safe, and at the same time, you can actually land various kill moves pretty legitimately.

Ganon and Falcon dittos by far are the best dittos in this game.
 

Superspright

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I agree. It's a real match of who knows the character--not non-stop laser spam like a ROB ditto, or a huge flurry of explosions like Snake dittos. MK dittos are just...hahahaha. That is just painful.

Also, I've been able to nair or uair out of the dark dive. It just requires some timing.
 

Z1GMA

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Susa, this shouldn't bother any Ganon-ditto-loving players.
Why? - Because Spiking Ganon while he's Up+B'ing (before he even grabs you) has always been child's play anyway.
 

A2ZOMG

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Ganon dittos are always epic. I don't care that you can do walltech -> spike. This matchup is fundamentally very balanced in terms of options. Ganondorf doesn't do anything that shuts himself down hard on stage. Being manly thus is a very viable strategy in this matchup.
 

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Ganon dittos are always epic. I don't care that you can do walltech -> spike. This matchup is fundamentally very balanced in terms of options. Ganondorf doesn't do anything that shuts himself down hard on stage. Being manly thus is a very viable strategy in this matchup.
I beat TP in a Maniliness Match at No Koast.
 

mountain_tiger

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Zelda dittos are worse. I mean, you have a character that has no safe approaches, yet a fantastic defensive game. That means that no one wants to approach, so it ends up being an unsuccessful Din's war...
 

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There was a state here, it's gone now...
You dn't even play brawl. Get off the boards. And you agreed with ME.
Get@me.
I'm starting to again.
No.
I decided that the first time I got my @$$ kicked in ganon dittos lol, you and I just happened to think the same thing. The only reason why I mentioned you is because I remembered you saying the same thing, and your reasoning behind that is because you get ***** in ganon dittos. ****in sparrow ***** you in ganon dittos lol. I probably couldn't beat you, but I'm guessing alot of the people on these boards could.
Get@me.
 

Eagleye893

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what about B+ Ganon dittos? Ganon is so much more fun in B+... you can combo with him.... lol

agree with the fact that most other dittos suck worse than falcon and ganon, but ness dittos are just too fun to watch IMO.
 

Vermanubis

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I honestly hate Ganon dittos more than I hate MK matches. I'm so freaking tired of people thinking it's *insert ******** expletive adjective here (epic)* to Ganon ditto. Ganondorf suffers against his own aerial game, so one hit can be the determining factor for a match.

Though, this brings an interesting question up: which suck *** more: Ganon dittos or versing Captain Falcons who don't know wtf they're doing.
 

Z1GMA

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I just realized how dumb the Title of this thread is (Not saying you're dumb, Susa).
Ganon Dittos are very entertaining to take part in.
Especially if your opponent is equal skilled.
 

stRIP

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I just realized how dumb the Title of this thread is (Not saying you're dumb, Susa).
Ganon Dittos are very entertaining to take part in.
Especially if your opponent is equal skilled.
I remember our Dittos (: a lot of them were close but you still won 90% of them

BTW THEY WERE 2 GOOD
 

Z1GMA

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I remember our Dittos (: a lot of them were close but you still won 90% of them

BTW THEY WERE 2 GOOD
That's how Smash is.
Even if you're almost as good as you opponent, you still lose the majority.
 

@HomE

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I honestly hate Ganon dittos more than I hate MK matches. I'm so freaking tired of people thinking it's *insert ******** expletive adjective here (epic)* to Ganon ditto. Ganondorf suffers against his own aerial game, so one hit can be the determining factor for a match.

Though, this brings an interesting question up: which suck *** more: Ganon dittos or versing Captain Falcons who don't know wtf they're doing.
Feel free to quit maining Ganon at any moment, and PLEASE exit the forum plz..

TY,GL,HF

OOOOK, Ganon dittos are amazing, BREEZY would agree with ME on this. the only problem is you have to do abooout... 300 matches to get a somewhat decent idea of who is better. If both Ganons are good enough they both have the tools to 3 Stock each other and I think that is ******...

For example, Zhou vs Ijosh, they have a set of 3 or 5 on youtube that is pretty amazing. First match (i might be getting this backwards) Zhou rolls Ijosh pretty hard, then the next game Ijosh 3 stocks Zhou, then i think Zhou wins an epic 3rd match... sry i went off on a little tangent, but point is

Ganon = manly

2 Ganon = Double Manly

2 Ganons trying to kill eachother = Mangasm
 

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Fools, Ganon dittos (and Falcon dittos) are in fact the most fun matchup in the game. I say this objectively.

Ganon dittos aren't overcentralized by specific moves or strategies for the most part, and there isn't a surefire approach or defensive tactic that always wins. Ganondorf however does get more opportunities to do **** stuff in this matchup since it's fundamentally so much easier for a player to get started in this matchup.
 
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