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Fthrow/Dthrow Chaingrab Thread

Legendary Pikachu

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NinjaLink said:
Has anyone figured out the combination of grabs/throws on wario?
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Well.... its not a buffered grab... but i'd like to point this question to stealth's discovery about the semi-infinite on wario that is very situational. Thin platform, very edge, grab wario, d-throw> (wierd glitch that makes wario not move upwards at all while wiggling in hitstun)> rinse and repeat until 90/100-ish damange>u-smash end. Tis a good find and for pika vs. wario's sake... should be added to this epic list of unusual chaingrabs. I pulled it off at a tournament setting one time.

Start: ANY damage.... lol :p
 
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Legendary Pikachu said:
Well.... its not a buffered grab... but i'd like to point this question to stealth's discovery about the semi-infinite on wario that is very situational. Thin platform, very edge, grab wario, d-throw> (wierd glitch that makes wario not move upwards at all while wiggling in hitstun)> rinse and repeat until 90/100-ish damange>u-smash end. Tis a good find and for pika vs. wario's sake... should be added to this epic list of unusual chaingrabs. I pulled it off at a tournament setting one time.

Start: ANY damage.... lol :p
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I'm aware of that CG. Just a regular one i was wondering. BTW LDPK i put up pika vs wario on my account. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYjt1nwdNpM
 
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Legendary Pikachu said:
Well.... its not a buffered grab... but i'd like to point this question to stealth's discovery about the semi-infinite on wario that is very situational. Thin platform, very edge, grab wario, d-throw> (wierd glitch that makes wario not move upwards at all while wiggling in hitstun)> rinse and repeat until 90/100-ish damange>u-smash end. Tis a good find and for pika vs. wario's sake... should be added to this epic list of unusual chaingrabs. I pulled it off at a tournament setting one time.

Start: ANY damage.... lol :p
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this was not my discovery. i just happened to watch the livestream of a NY tourney where someone demonstrated it. and afaik ninja its just regular buffered dthrows.
 
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Legendary Pikachu said:
Well.... its not a buffered grab... but i'd like to point this question to stealth's discovery about the semi-infinite on wario that is very situational. Thin platform, very edge, grab wario, d-throw> (wierd glitch that makes wario not move upwards at all while wiggling in hitstun)> rinse and repeat until 90/100-ish damange>u-smash end. Tis a good find and for pika vs. wario's sake... should be added to this epic list of unusual chaingrabs. I pulled it off at a tournament setting one time.

Start: ANY damage.... lol :p
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i've tried this CG on wario on various platforms and it doesn't seem to work, any pummels or anything you have to do?
 
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So, I've been trying to practice the Falco CG. I'm just in training mode, but I can't get past 70 percent. I do as instructed, x2 fthrow, x13 dthrow, regrab; every time it hits 70 percent, the grab fails - falco is too high in the air.

Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?

Mew!
 
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Training mode doesn't diminish the throw, so he will fly farther. You have to do unlimited time and do it. In training mode it won't work since the throws don't diminish. "Very important"

I'm gonna test the CG with staled throws for the ones that we can basically get a kill from (Falco, fox, sheik, falcon, ganon) and see if you can do it nearly fully diminished.
 
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ESAM said:
Training mode doesn't diminish the throw, so he will fly farther. You have to do unlimited time and do it. In training mode it won't work since the throws don't diminish. "Very important"

I'm gonna test the CG with staled throws for the ones that we can basically get a kill from (Falco, fox, sheik, falcon, ganon) and see if you can do it nearly fully diminished.
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Oh! Interesting... I hadn't realized that training mode doesn't stale your moves. Well that's unfortunate. I'll give it a go in brawl mode.

****, I really wish I hadn't updated my Wii >.< I want to test this sort of stuff with you guys, but I'm stuck for now =(

Mew.
 
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I never realized that shiek was in so much danger
 
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I used this on my friend's MK, and it worked for the first stock up to about 60%. But he was able to simply jump out of it on the next stock... Any ideas as to why?
 
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Dilly04 said:
I used this on my friend's MK, and it worked for the first stock up to about 60%. But he was able to simply jump out of it on the next stock... Any ideas as to why?
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You did it wrong. But without knowing exactly what you did, we can't tell you where you messed up.
 
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i read the Q&A on the front page and i still don't really understand buffering his down throw. could someone explain to me how to do this in detail?
 
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jog said:
i read the Q&A on the front page and i still don't really understand buffering his down throw. could someone explain to me how to do this in detail?
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do the down throw and b4 the down throw is finished press grab.
 
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which is just a fthrow first, right? and we discussed the whole buffering a dash, or a grab from a dash to prevent him escaping that before you can regrab and chain til 52?
 
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If you start from 10%, MK can still footstool after the first downthrow and also fthrow > regrab isn't guaranteed.
 
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Yes it is prime, you have to buffer it, run 2 frames, and then grab. I tried it and he couldn't get out, whether it was jump or UP-b
 
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Does anyone know if the new chaingrab works on Olimar?
 
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:) I was just wondering, my DK can usually go even against Socal oli's but i was just wondering if i needed Pika as a back up.

Ill make sure to put this to use against Sheik, Falco, and DDD however.
 
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When i try to chain grab sonic my friend always gets out the second grab by using his up-B (bumper)... is there anyone that can try this to see if im doing it wrong..
 
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When i try to chain grab sonic my friend always gets out the second grab by using his up-B (bumper)... is there anyone that can try this to see if im doing it wrong..
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Are you F-throwing? If so, you aren't grabbing soon enough after the buffered dash. This was tested where no human error is possible, so you might just have to get used to the timing. I still mess up when CGing my brother's ZSS, so it just needs lots of practice.
 
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Just some things I wanted to mention. Pikachu seems to have several pseudo CG's on characters, so even for people not on this list a buffered grab might still catch them if they do anything other then their best method of escaping. Secondly, I find an easier way to press the grab button thats really helped me. Ill elaborate in a bit.
 
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Oh yeah I forgot to elaborate. I dont know why, but I get the feeling that if you hold the z button longer then 3 frames even in the buffer zone youll buffer shield instead of grab, which is the problem most people have. Dont know if thats true or not but it could be.

So yeah, some people may already do this, but Im starting to do the chaingrab the way I short hopped in melee. Before Id just press the button and try to lift it up really fast, but because of the awkward button its a little hard to get it right all the time.

However, I found that if you slide your finger across instead of press the button it makes it much much easier. Basically just move your finger to the tip of the Z button and slide it down along the curve of the controller so it makes a loud clicky noise once your finger slides off the button. I've found that this has caused me to mess up way less. Like, it makes it ridiculously easy.
 
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The Truth! said:
Oh yeah I forgot to elaborate. I dont know why, but I get the feeling that if you hold the z button longer then 3 frames even in the buffer zone youll buffer shield instead of grab, which is the problem most people have. Dont know if thats true or not but it could be.

So yeah, some people may already do this, but Im starting to do the chaingrab the way I short hopped in melee. Before Id just press the button and try to lift it up really fast, but because of the awkward button its a little hard to get it right all the time.

However, I found that if you slide your finger across instead of press the button it makes it much much easier. Basically just move your finger to the tip of the Z button and slide it down along the curve of the controller so it makes a loud clicky noise once your finger slides off the button. I've found that this has caused me to mess up way less. Like, it makes it ridiculously easy.
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yep thats what i do
 
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