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Q&A Falco Q&A
- Thread starter Mogwai
- Start date
Rannskita
Smash Journeyman
- Joined
- Jul 15, 2008
- Messages
- 237
are you really french? :o
n o
voila sup
think you're sneaky do ya?
n o
soap
Smash Hero
huh .
ya rly
I dunno, 7ish should be good.
KAOSTAR
the Ascended One
I meant in hawaii. I know where his skill was when he left. Hes been sayin hes gotten alot better since he left. Just wondering if you have noticed any change from when he got there to nowish when hes leavingish
TerenceLau
Smash Ace
no, not really. but i haven't played him in a while.
nairing is safer. it generates more shield stun and has less landing lag.
however, it has less payoff since it doesn't combo as well and it also doesn't shield stab as well and is harder to do perfectly.
however, it has less payoff since it doesn't combo as well and it also doesn't shield stab as well and is harder to do perfectly.
LoOshKiN
Smash Journeyman
I've noticed that I've been pillaring with shine and bair. I don't know much about other than it looks cool, which doesn't actually help me much at all lol
What are the pros and cons of pillaring with bair after shine? I think it eats shields...idk.
Help plz.
What are the pros and cons of pillaring with bair after shine? I think it eats shields...idk.
Help plz.
Meneks
Smash Lord
I guess some of the pros could be you can space the bairs so that they can't shield grab you but you can do that with nairs..
Idk the cons since i don't shield pressure like that
KAOSTAR
the Ascended One
Well, except in spacie dittos, you can start your pillar on the front and cross to the back with a bair to if you are consistent it will be hard to get punished for it. They will probably have to roll.
and yea it its up shield and can shield poke. Mix it up. Try some shine>jc grabs
lipingpong
Smash Rookie
- Joined
- Jan 26, 2008
- Messages
- 6
Great guide!! def helped out a lot! hopefully i'll get lots better with falco
run around right in your face
knock you down
grab you
shine you off stage
if Falco can keep Fox from doing those things, he'll win, always.
knock you down
grab you
shine you off stage
if Falco can keep Fox from doing those things, he'll win, always.
Tee ay eye
Smash Hero
Does nair REALLY produce more shieldstun than dair?
REALLY?!
I never ever would have guessed. It's one reason I always used dair
REALLY?!
I never ever would have guessed. It's one reason I always used dair
yarly, it's based 100% on damage, so nair's higher damage = more shieldstun.
stabbedbyanipple
Smash Master
Wow that's a good thing to know lol
Anyway I have a question:
When the opponent is on the lower platforms, is it better to harass them with Shffl'd Uairs or jump and shine their shield then waveland onto the platform?
Anyway I have a question:
When the opponent is on the lower platforms, is it better to harass them with Shffl'd Uairs or jump and shine their shield then waveland onto the platform?
AvengerAngel
Smash Journeyman
Are you sure? I checked it in training mode and Nair does the same exact amount of damage that Dair does. Maybe it's just related to the stale moves thing? :x
And I actually have the same question that stabbedbyanipple has. I don't know what to do vs. platform-camping happy players. Especially if they're Fox/Falco/Marf/Sheik >_<
AvengerAngel
Smash Journeyman
I did, and I'm sure they get stale (I checked it). I meant that during a match you use way more Dairs than Nairs for combos, therefore Dair gets stale faster than Nair does, and that's why Nair could cause more shieldstun :O
TresChikon
Smash Lord
So decay happens when it hits someone, do shielded or reflected attacks also decay?
AvengerAngel
Smash Journeyman
I *THINK* shielded attacks do not decay, but I'm not sure o_o
I'll check it soon
I'll check it soon
oh, well for some reason I thought nair did more damage. I honestly don't know damages for the most part since they decay and it's annoying to pay attention to. I probably thought dair did less damage cause I'm used to it always being decayed from using it so much 
Anyway, nair is still better for shield pressure because it has 7 frames of lag l-canceled vs. dair's 9 frames, so even with shield stun being equal, it's a better option.
shine -> waveland gets rocked by most OoS options, so I go to the other low platform and shoot them, go to the top platform and approach from above, or harass with shffl uair. shine -> waveland is awesome in combos and when they miss techs, but if they're already in their shield these days, they'll see it coming and **** you for it. Falco is the best platform camper in the game cause he has both a gun and the best dair in the game, so you should just camp them back if they're platform camping. if they have a stock lead, harass as I said above.
In other news, I'm hopefully going to play PC Chris later this week and record some Falco dittos to put up onto the utoobs, so I'll keep you guys updated on that if it happens.
Anyway, nair is still better for shield pressure because it has 7 frames of lag l-canceled vs. dair's 9 frames, so even with shield stun being equal, it's a better option.
shine -> waveland gets rocked by most OoS options, so I go to the other low platform and shoot them, go to the top platform and approach from above, or harass with shffl uair. shine -> waveland is awesome in combos and when they miss techs, but if they're already in their shield these days, they'll see it coming and **** you for it. Falco is the best platform camper in the game cause he has both a gun and the best dair in the game, so you should just camp them back if they're platform camping. if they have a stock lead, harass as I said above.
In other news, I'm hopefully going to play PC Chris later this week and record some Falco dittos to put up onto the utoobs, so I'll keep you guys updated on that if it happens.
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
Is shield-stun based entirely on damage?
I always thought it varied from move to move and character to character.
I always thought it varied from move to move and character to character.
yea, I used to too, then I saw this:
in Scotu's thread. At first I thought it made no sense from my experience with Melee, but then I thought about it and decided that it actually makes sense, so I buy it.
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
I think I may be in the "it makes no sense from my experience with Melee" phase right now.
yea, he either misplaced a parenthesis or it cuts out the hit lag, I forget which.
wool
Smash Ace
Ok this is completely off topic and is probably a noob question (so sorry in advance) but anyway here it is:
Let's say I am on FD and with Falco (obviously) and I do a shine then jump immediately afterward. I can do this quick enough so that the shine is visible, but stays out for the shortest amount of time because I am hitting jump on frame 2, 3, or 4 and since the earliest the jump animation starts is on 4, my shine is visible for the shortest amount of time possible.
Cool.
But when I do a shine which HITS a character, if I try and hit X immediately after it never registers. It seems like I have to hit X a bit later than I do when the shine doesn't hit a character. Result and problem: my shine stays out for a bit. I'm just wondering if this is what's supposed to happen, or is there a way to jump out of the shine (that hits the opponent) as quickly as you can jump out of the shine (that doesn't hit the opponent).
TY.
Let's say I am on FD and with Falco (obviously) and I do a shine then jump immediately afterward. I can do this quick enough so that the shine is visible, but stays out for the shortest amount of time because I am hitting jump on frame 2, 3, or 4 and since the earliest the jump animation starts is on 4, my shine is visible for the shortest amount of time possible.
Cool.
But when I do a shine which HITS a character, if I try and hit X immediately after it never registers. It seems like I have to hit X a bit later than I do when the shine doesn't hit a character. Result and problem: my shine stays out for a bit. I'm just wondering if this is what's supposed to happen, or is there a way to jump out of the shine (that hits the opponent) as quickly as you can jump out of the shine (that doesn't hit the opponent).
TY.