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Eh...not really. I mean, Falco definitely wins by quite a bit and is her worst MU, but he's not necessarily at hard-counter status or anything. And if you don't have adequate ZSS experience you're probably screwed, since ZSS is such a weird character. 'Easy', but not 'really easy'.It's a really easy matchup for sure once the pieces are out, considering this:
They're good, but you overrate them. ZSS can crawl under them, which works well considering she has a great dtilt (which has good range). And don't try to dair/usmash her while she's crawling, she can shield-->utilt.-Lasers give amazing stun against her, and screw her air approaches terribly. Actually, they screw her up on everything. Abuse them, they really take her down.
I believe Poke corrected this already.-We can chain grab her (the chaingrab is dashing, not walking) 4 times + follow up, iirc.
You can, but it's probably not going to happen very often.-We can reflect her stun-laser thingy
Completely wrong. If you face a good ZSS you'll almost never edgeguard her, since Falco isn't exactly the best at edgeguarding. ZSS has one of the best recoveries in the game.-We can gimp her easily with bair when she goes for the ledge since her tethers have a set and long trayectory back to the stage.
Laser-->usmash is good. Usmash is probably your best kill option, since ZSS doesn't live too long vertically.-Killing is easy, just gimp her or laser>upsmash, it works wonders. Or you can camp her and rack lots of damage then Bair.
It won't be easy to spike if it has been used properly.Her down-b is really easy to spike, but she can spike you too, so it's a high risk-high reward situation.
Poke corrected this.-She can Dsmash string us up to like 50%.
At lower percents she can also dsmash x2> fair (fair does 17%)-She can double Dsmash> bair for the kill... so very nasty.
Fair is even stronger than bair, and nair can kill if she's edgeguarding with it. Fsmash will also kill if spaced properly (will only be done out of dsmash)-She can also kill with side-b,uair.
I'm pretty sure she can't crawl under reflector-She can crawl under reflector and lasers to approach, watch out for that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pItF4Sa5NHY-Her Dash attack can string into stuff, and iirc it truecomboes into jab and utilt.
Uh....no need to mash. ZSS' jab3 doesn't connect on anyone that's grounded, except for like 6 or so characters. If the ZSS is trying to do the entire jab combo, just hold shield. You'll powershield the 3rd hit, and then you can punish with grab. Maybe usmash but I don't think it's guaranteed.Her jab is faster than ours, but you can mash out a jab and hit ZSS before the third hit of her jab combo.
I mentioned this already.In fact, you can Bair the hell out of Zamus's recovery in general.
bwahaha there are multiple ways to bait falco into this. I have made this work against some really skilled players too.As if any Falco would side B from the ledge when zss is directly before you...
GG you just won the right to get hit by an invincible ledgehopped Dair :I
I didn't follow Smash when it was on the pro circuit, but I'm pretty sure MLG uses a gaming monitor on main stage pretty similar to a Samsung gaming monitor that has about 3 ms of lag. Granted, that's my knowledge of their setup for Halo and CoD now anyway. I would assume Smash being a frame specific game wouldn't be any different.bwahaha there are multiple ways to bait falco into this. I have made this work against some really skilled players too.
Also not to bad talk Nick Riddle or anything, but i heard the MLG that that happened had awfully laggy TVs and DEHF was having a hard time even Double Short hop Lazering. plus Norfair was legal...so i kinda think it was a one time thing. Of course i wasn't there when it happened. So if all that stuff is not true then G E T R A P E D F AL C O!!! G O N. R.
lol hardlyGG you just won the right to get hit by an invincible ledgehopped Dair :I
Hi, my name is Tommy_G. I helped Nick Riddle beat Larry by teaching him the matchup. You all can hate on me now.I only remember nick riddle beating larry at mlg